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Old 07-22-2003, 02:33 PM
bob bad
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Default Re: Money 2003 - Portfolio Question

Thanks for your input. Sorry I have been lax in
responding due to other issues. A couple of things. 1)
My approach, and according to the reading I had done, was
to create an "investment" (I was referring to this as an
account) for each and every different account number I had
at Vanguard. It is quite possible I have something messed
up and will re-evaluate with more deatil. 2) I used to
enter every transaction manually into a nice spreadsheet I
had created. With Money coming on my new Dell, this
seemed technically a better solution to doing anything
manually again and hence moved forward with electronically
downloading statements, saving me the time it took to do
it manually (I know, this is taking more time). I prefer
the electronic method, if I can get it to work. It is
just easier. 3) If I delete an investment, somewhere int
he program it still keeps the informaiton on the fund and
it makes it difficult to re-create work you know is
wrong. Anyone know where they keep this info and if it
can be permenantly removed?

Thanks for everyone's responses.


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> -----Original Message-----
> Sounds like a Vanguard data problem, not a Money problem.
Once again:
> manually entering transactions avoids problems with the
lousy transaction
> data financial institutions provide.
> "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in
message
> news:qg1fhvont4vu8pa993pbnndkf3dkmcqkbg[at]4ax.com...
> > FYI, it is a quirk of Vanguard that when you download,
each fund is
> > in it's own Money account. So it is the Vanguard
paradigm as opposed
> > to the more familiar/normal way.
> > > Of course, not downloading, you can stick to the
regular paradigm.
> .
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Old 07-18-2003, 12:41 PM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: Money 2003 - Portfolio Question

Sounds like a Vanguard data problem, not a Money problem. Once again:
manually entering transactions avoids problems with the lousy transaction
data financial institutions provide.

"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
news:qg1fhvont4vu8pa993pbnndkf3dkmcqkbg[at]4ax.com...
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> FYI, it is a quirk of Vanguard that when you download, each fund is
> in it's own Money account. So it is the Vanguard paradigm as opposed
> to the more familiar/normal way.
> Of course, not downloading, you can stick to the regular paradigm.


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Old 07-18-2003, 04:32 AM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: Money 2003 - Portfolio Question

I fear we will digress from your basic issue, but that's cool, too. I'll
wait to hear you reasoning, but basically they intend you to make accounts
match accounts and allow accounts to hold multiple investments. Most of us
use it this way without problems. Maybe we are missing something?

"bob bad" <rmebbad[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks first for responding. YOu and the other person are
> most likely right about terminology misunderstandings --
> on my part. I do treat each fund in an investment account
> (like Vanguard) as a seperate account to store data.
> Maybe my mistake. I might try another post with more
> examples of my philosphy to see if I am way off base.
> Thanks again for your rapid response.


 
Old 07-18-2003, 04:10 AM
bob bad
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Default Re: Money 2003 - Portfolio Question

Dick,

Thanks first for responding. YOu and the other person are
most likely right about terminology misunderstandings --
on my part. I do treat each fund in an investment account
(like Vanguard) as a seperate account to store data.
Maybe my mistake. I might try another post with more
examples of my philosphy to see if I am way off base.
Thanks again for your rapid response.
--
Bob


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> -----Original Message-----
> I was doing fine understanding your issue until you
said "6 accounts (funds)
> under these 4 portfolio's, only this one fund places its
data in the wrong
> place. There must be a fund that has been deleted, stored
somewhere with the
> wrong account information in it but I can't seem to
figure out how to find
> old accounts/funds to get it removed."
> Money does not download data for Investments (a mutual
fund is an Investment
> not an Account)--it downloads transaction data for an
Investment Account,
> which may include data about transactions for one or many
Investments. Money
> lets you create a series of Investment Accounts to hold
Investments and
> store transactions information about Investments and cash
movements. Money
> calls the whole collection of these a portfolio but
stores no information
> about anything called a portfolio. It is very helpful to
use terminology
> consistent with the way Money uses it.
> If your problem is that all transaction data for one
account--"IRA -
> J"--downloads into another account--"IRA - B", then you
need to make sure
> the account information for these accounts is setup
correctly. Personally, I
> don't download transaction data--too much hassle compared
to just entering
> it myself--so I can't tell you exactly how/where to check
what.
> If your problem is, as stated, that all transaction data
for one
> account--"IRA - J"--downloads into the correct account
except for the
> transactions for "IRA - J" transactions in "Fund Z" (or
whatever), which
> downloads into another account--"IRA - B", then I'm
stumped. That really
> might be a better question for the financial institution
sending you the
> data.
> "bob bad" <rmebbad[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:04cf01c34b45$016f8be0$a601280a[at]phx.gbl...
> > I seem to be stuck in Portfolio nightmare. I have
created
> > 4 seperate portfolio accounts as IRA Roth - B, IRA
Roth -
> > J, IRA - B and IRA - J. When I donwload the data from
my
> > mutual fund provider, one of 6 accounts wants to contnue
> > to drop its data into IRA - B when in fact in should be
> > dropping into IRA - J. Out of 6 accounts (funds) under
> > these 4 portfolio's, only this one fund places its data
in
> > the wrong place. There must be a fund that has been
> > deleted, stored somehwere with the wrong account
> > information in it but I can't seem to figure out how to
> > find old accounts/funds to get it removed. Any ideas on
> > how to deal with Money portfolios? TH emanual does not
go
> > into this much detail that I can find -- it is quite
> > basic. Money seems to like to hide details or deleted
> > accounts even though they are in permanent storage
> > somewhere. Hope someone can help. Thanks
> .
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Old 07-16-2003, 03:50 AM
bob bad
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Default Money 2003 - Portfolio Question

I seem to be stuck in Portfolio nightmare. I have created
4 seperate portfolio accounts as IRA Roth - B, IRA Roth -
J, IRA - B and IRA - J. When I donwload the data from my
mutual fund provider, one of 6 accounts wants to contnue
to drop its data into IRA - B when in fact in should be
dropping into IRA - J. Out of 6 accounts (funds) under
these 4 portfolio's, only this one fund places its data in
the wrong place. There must be a fund that has been
deleted, stored somehwere with the wrong account
information in it but I can't seem to figure out how to
find old accounts/funds to get it removed. Any ideas on
how to deal with Money portfolios? TH emanual does not go
into this much detail that I can find -- it is quite
basic. Money seems to like to hide details or deleted
accounts even though they are in permanent storage
somewhere. Hope someone can help. Thanks
 

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