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Old 11-14-2003, 01:19 PM
Dick Watson
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Check back and let us know how it goes. Personally, I'm about to blow away
my RedHat partition. I dinked around with GnuCash for an hour or two. The
light bulb never went on for me.

"Epictetus" <epictetus[at]acropolis.org> wrote in message
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> I'm going to have to look at gnucash more carefully I guess. Maybe it
> is a good reason to try to shift a lot of stuff over to linux. I run
> windows only because the few pieces of software I want to run are
> written for that platform, but then money is one of them.
> The sad thing is that I would gladly pay much more than $20 for a
> financial program that would handle the basic tasks well, especially
> keeping up with investments and allowing some flexibility in setting
> up portfolios. I have bought and thrown out both Money 2004 and
> Quicken. Money's one or nothing portfolio design is typical of its
> stupid choices. I do like that I can open my garage door from inside
> the program though -- M$ can think of most anything but the useful
> parts of a program it seems.
> Oh well....I guess I will spend some more time checking out gnucash.
> Thanks for your comments and the links.



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Old 11-14-2003, 11:18 AM
Epictetus
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I'm going to have to look at gnucash more carefully I guess. Maybe it
is a good reason to try to shift a lot of stuff over to linux. I run
windows only because the few pieces of software I want to run are
written for that platform, but then money is one of them.

The sad thing is that I would gladly pay much more than $20 for a
financial program that would handle the basic tasks well, especially
keeping up with investments and allowing some flexibility in setting
up portfolios. I have bought and thrown out both Money 2004 and
Quicken. Money's one or nothing portfolio design is typical of its
stupid choices. I do like that I can open my garage door from inside
the program though -- M$ can think of most anything but the useful
parts of a program it seems.

Oh well....I guess I will spend some more time checking out gnucash.
Thanks for your comments and the links.

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:43:29 -0700, "Dick Watson"
<littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote:

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> Along those lines, since the subject has come up a couple of times recently,
> here are two interesting links:
> http://www.gnucash.org/en/state_of_t..._project.phtml
> This one was "news" somewhere around 8/11/2003. Note the size of the code
> base they quote in proportion to its ratio of functionality compared to
> Money.
> http://www.gnucash.org/en/quiz-results.phtml
> On interesting tidbit is that it asks "If you are interested in Windows,
> which version?
> -- MS Windows 98 base edition
> -- MS Windows 98 second edition
> -- MS Windows NT
> -- MS Windows 2000
> -- MS Windows ME (Millenium Edition)"
> The survey is undated. One can only hope that it was done long before WinXP
> came out. Note also that the sweet spot for a distribution on CD that costs
> real money came out to $20.
> "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
> message news:OMg7kpeqDHA.2488[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > http://www.gnucash.org. Go for it.




Epictetus
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Old 11-13-2003, 07:33 PM
Dick Watson
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I've had it take varying amounts of time in the range of several hours, but
I avoid ABENDing Money so have occasionally let it go that long. It always,
sooner or more likely later, times out with or without hitting the utterly
useless cancel button.

"Ron Rosenfeld" <ronrosenfeld[at]nospam.org> wrote in message
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> I never realized that it would actually cancel after an hour. I thought I
had
> waited at least that long on at least one occasion, but I may be mistaken.



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Old 11-13-2003, 07:31 PM
Dick Watson
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On an XP box, you go to the LAN connectoid in Network Connections and
disable then enable it.

"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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> Is there an easy way to temporarily close the connection, for the
> purpose of making the cancel button work, with an always-on
> connection?



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Old 11-13-2003, 05:21 PM
Ron Rosenfeld
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:00:39 -0700, "Dick Watson"
<littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote:

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> True enough, this is a workaround, though I think it should be unnecessary.
> And for dialup users, maybe an OK one. For those of us who have LANs with
> dedicated Internet routes, a dumb pain.


I agree with your comments. And even on a dialup, it is still a PITA.

I never realized that it would actually cancel after an hour. I thought I had
waited at least that long on at least one occasion, but I may be mistaken.


--ron
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Old 11-13-2003, 05:21 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, Ron Rosenfeld wrote:

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> I have noted that, with regard to CANCELing, if I cancel, and then close my
> internet connection, the cancellation is immediate.


Is there an easy way to temporarily close the connection, for the
purpose of making the cancel button work, with an always-on
connection?

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Old 11-13-2003, 05:00 PM
Dick Watson
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True enough, this is a workaround, though I think it should be unnecessary.
And for dialup users, maybe an OK one. For those of us who have LANs with
dedicated Internet routes, a dumb pain.

"Ron Rosenfeld" <ronrosenfeld[at]nospam.org> wrote in message
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> I have noted that, with regard to CANCELing, if I cancel, and then close
my
> internet connection, the cancellation is immediate.



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Old 11-13-2003, 04:10 PM
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:31:13 -0700, "Dick Watson"
<littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote:

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> But making
> the thing take an hour or more to timeout or cancel? Yikes.


Dick,

I have noted that, with regard to CANCELing, if I cancel, and then close my
internet connection, the cancellation is immediate.


--ron
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Old 11-13-2003, 03:43 PM
Dick Watson
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Along those lines, since the subject has come up a couple of times recently,
here are two interesting links:

http://www.gnucash.org/en/state_of_t..._project.phtml

This one was "news" somewhere around 8/11/2003. Note the size of the code
base they quote in proportion to its ratio of functionality compared to
Money.

http://www.gnucash.org/en/quiz-results.phtml

On interesting tidbit is that it asks "If you are interested in Windows,
which version?
-- MS Windows 98 base edition
-- MS Windows 98 second edition
-- MS Windows NT
-- MS Windows 2000
-- MS Windows ME (Millenium Edition)"
The survey is undated. One can only hope that it was done long before WinXP
came out. Note also that the sweet spot for a distribution on CD that costs
real money came out to $20.

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
message news:OMg7kpeqDHA.2488[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
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> http://www.gnucash.org. Go for it.


 
Old 11-13-2003, 01:31 PM
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http://www.gnucash.org. Go for it.

FWIW, I , too, am astounded that Quotes download is so problematic with
Money. OK, so they don't want to provide enough server capacity. But making
the thing take an hour or more to timeout or cancel? Yikes.

"Epictetus" <epictetus[at]acropolis.org> wrote in message
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> Well, I just needed to grouse. I assume there is no resolution to
> this problem. Maybe I should look at what is available on the *nix
> platforms.



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Old 11-13-2003, 12:37 PM
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Does anyone know why the technological challenge of downloading stock
quotes is apparently beyond the competence of microsoft but a
seemingly simple task for any number of other operations, yahoo being
a quick example?

I seem to find the updating of quotes at the end of day an
increasingly failing operation...I have not been able to get it to
work for a few weeks now. I have tried all the nonsense with
enabling, disabling firewalls, proxies, etc., none of which have any
effect. Some of the online update will work, but m$' stock quotes is
a guaranteed failure. There is something specifically about m$ stock
quotes, not with connections, etc., that is guaranteed to fail (well,
90% of the time anyway).

I enabled that passport thing in the hopes that its annoyance would be
worth the sacrifice to get quotes to work, but then with that I cannot
get any sort of end-of-day summary, so it doesn't help me much.

Earlier this year I bought M04 in the vain hope that somebody at m$
actually corrected some problems during the year, but I was wrong. If
anything, it seemed worse. It is now sitting on a shelf.

I continue to wonder how m$ can carry on the same flaws year after
year, though I guess I should have learned that from using their op
systems. I tried quicken, but it seemed mainly a platform for
spamming the user.

Well, I just needed to grouse. I assume there is no resolution to
this problem. Maybe I should look at what is available on the *nix
platforms.



Epictetus
 

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