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| Yah. That sounds about right. "Bob Rion" <rrion[at]hvc.rr.com> wrote in message news:uqiamFolDHA.2080[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... - quote - > So the bottom line is: > Archiving is less than useless but forunately we don't need it anyway. > I can live with that. |
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| So the bottom line is: Archiving is less than useless but forunately we don't need it anyway. I can live with that. Thanks, Bob "Bob Rion" <rrion[at]hvc.rr.com> wrote in message news:eHOWPpklDHA.2652[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... - quote - > I have about 4 years of data in my active file so I thought I should archive > some of it. I set the date to archive everything before 1/1/2001 from all > accounts to a file called 2000 archive. What I expected to see was all the > transactions previous to 1/1/2001 gone from my main file and a new file > (2000 archive) with all of those transactions in it. What I got was far from > it. > I checked several accounts in my active file and the only thing missing from > them was the pre 2001 spend transactions. All of the deposits were still > there. When I looked at the 200 archive file, it contained all transactions > from the original file. Everything from 1/1/2000 through the current date. > It actually seems to be a complete image of my original data before any > archiving. > I don't see how this does anything but screw up my files. Can sombody set me > straight on how this is supposed to be used? Or does this thing just not > work? > Thanks > Bob |
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| You can manually prune the file by deleting old transactions but you will run into the same issues about transactions you really don't want to delete and transfers and adjusting account starting balances and so on and you can do things like delete closed accounts. I've worried from time to time that sooner or later we will have to find a good way to do this but so far the capacity of our systems and media keep growing faster than our files. My file, for instance, was 37.0 MB under M03 back on the 5th of January. It's now 45.5 MB under M04 on the 18th of October. That 0.029 MB growth per day! At this rate, the file will grow to 154 MB in another ten years. I guess the only real problem I see with this even on my present system is that the number of 3-1/2" 1.44MB floppies for that portion of the weekly backup will be absolutely unmanageable and pretty useless as a backup since the odds of reading this many floppies without a data error will rapidly approach zero. "Bob Rion" <rrion[at]hvc.rr.com> wrote in message news:ub15wjllDHA.2000[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... - quote - > OK, now that I've verified that archiving is worthless. Is there any other > way to trim data files down and save the trimmings to another file. In other > words, to do what I thought archiving would do. I've had other money > programs that do that and it seems like a simple enough thing to do. Maybe > someone has written a utility or something? |
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| Bob, I have about 8 years of data and see no reason to try and trim it down. Don't forget that the list of monthly reports, for example, looks horrifyingly long, but it is just a list of report names, the reports just don't exist till you decide to look at them. As Dick has said forget about archiving altogether. -- Regards Bob Peel, Microsoft MVP - Money Hints/Tips http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny UK Wishes/Suggestions mnyukwsh[at]microsoft.com "Bob Rion" <rrion[at]hvc.rr.com> wrote in message news:ub15wjllDHA.2000[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... - quote - > OK, now that I've verified that archiving is worthless. Is there any other > way to trim data files down and save the trimmings to another file. In other > words, to do what I thought archiving would do. I've had other money > programs that do that and it seems like a simple enough thing to do. Maybe > someone has written a utility or something? > Thanks again for your help, > Bob > "Bob Rion" <rrion[at]hvc.rr.com> wrote in message > news:eHOWPpklDHA.2652[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > > I have about 4 years of data in my active file so I thought I should > archive > > some of it. I set the date to archive everything before 1/1/2001 from all > > accounts to a file called 2000 archive. What I expected to see was all the > > transactions previous to 1/1/2001 gone from my main file and a new file > > (2000 archive) with all of those transactions in it. What I got was far > from > > it. > > I checked several accounts in my active file and the only thing missing > from > > them was the pre 2001 spend transactions. All of the deposits were still > > there. When I looked at the 200 archive file, it contained all > transactions > > from the original file. Everything from 1/1/2000 through the current date. > > It actually seems to be a complete image of my original data before any > > archiving. > > I don't see how this does anything but screw up my files. Can sombody set > me > > straight on how this is supposed to be used? Or does this thing just not > > work? > > > Thanks > > Bob > |
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| OK, now that I've verified that archiving is worthless. Is there any other way to trim data files down and save the trimmings to another file. In other words, to do what I thought archiving would do. I've had other money programs that do that and it seems like a simple enough thing to do. Maybe someone has written a utility or something? Thanks again for your help, Bob "Bob Rion" <rrion[at]hvc.rr.com> wrote in message news:eHOWPpklDHA.2652[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... - quote - > I have about 4 years of data in my active file so I thought I should archive > some of it. I set the date to archive everything before 1/1/2001 from all > accounts to a file called 2000 archive. What I expected to see was all the > transactions previous to 1/1/2001 gone from my main file and a new file > (2000 archive) with all of those transactions in it. What I got was far from > it. > I checked several accounts in my active file and the only thing missing from > them was the pre 2001 spend transactions. All of the deposits were still > there. When I looked at the 200 archive file, it contained all transactions > from the original file. Everything from 1/1/2000 through the current date. > It actually seems to be a complete image of my original data before any > archiving. > I don't see how this does anything but screw up my files. Can sombody set me > straight on how this is supposed to be used? Or does this thing just not > work? > Thanks > Bob |
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| Thanks for the answer. So archiving sounds pretty useless. "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in message news:eIUOE1klDHA.1728[at]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... - quote - > Search the archives for this newsgroup at http://groups.google.com or read > the FAQ article at http://www.bollar.org/msmoney/#Q95, and you will find > that there is great misconception about what archiving really does and how > useful it really is. (Unfortunately, I think the MSKB links in the FAQ > article may be dead.) > Suffice it to say that the basic drill is archiving copies the entire file > to the "archive file" (it's in effect a backup snapshot of exactly what's in > the file when you do the archive) and then it removes some but by no means > all transactions from before the archiving date you specified. > Many of us just say no to archiving. > "Bob Rion" <rrion[at]hvc.rr.com> wrote in message > news:eHOWPpklDHA.2652[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > > I have about 4 years of data in my active file so I thought I should > archive > > some of it. I set the date to archive everything before 1/1/2001 from all > > accounts to a file called 2000 archive. What I expected to see was all the > > transactions previous to 1/1/2001 gone from my main file and a new file > > (2000 archive) with all of those transactions in it. What I got was far > from > > it. > > I checked several accounts in my active file and the only thing missing > from > > them was the pre 2001 spend transactions. All of the deposits were still > > there. When I looked at the 200 archive file, it contained all > transactions > > from the original file. Everything from 1/1/2000 through the current date. > > It actually seems to be a complete image of my original data before any > > archiving. > > I don't see how this does anything but screw up my files. Can sombody set > me > > straight on how this is supposed to be used? Or does this thing just not > > work? |
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| - quote - > Subject: archiving????
and then forget you ever tried to do it. It does absolutely nothing for you> From: "Bob Rion" rrion[at]hvc.rr.com > Date: 10/19/03 10:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time > Message-id: <eHOWPpklDHA.2652[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl> I have about 4 years of data in my active file so I thought I should archive > some of it. I set the date to archive everything before 1/1/2001 from all > accounts to a file called 2000 archive. What I expected to see was all the > transactions previous to 1/1/2001 gone from my main file and a new file > (2000 archive) with all of those transactions in it. What I got was far from > it. > I checked several accounts in my active file and the only thing missing from > them was the pre 2001 spend transactions. All of the deposits were still > there. When I looked at the 200 archive file, it contained all transactions > from the original file. Everything from 1/1/2000 through the current date. > It actually seems to be a complete image of my original data before any > archiving. > I don't see how this does anything but screw up my files. Can sombody set me > straight on how this is supposed to be used? Or does this thing just not > work? > Thanks > Bob Bob, your best bet is to get your file back to where it was before you archived just as you discovered. Good luck. Steve |
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| Search the archives for this newsgroup at http://groups.google.com or read the FAQ article at http://www.bollar.org/msmoney/#Q95, and you will find that there is great misconception about what archiving really does and how useful it really is. (Unfortunately, I think the MSKB links in the FAQ article may be dead.) Suffice it to say that the basic drill is archiving copies the entire file to the "archive file" (it's in effect a backup snapshot of exactly what's in the file when you do the archive) and then it removes some but by no means all transactions from before the archiving date you specified. Many of us just say no to archiving. "Bob Rion" <rrion[at]hvc.rr.com> wrote in message news:eHOWPpklDHA.2652[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... - quote - > I have about 4 years of data in my active file so I thought I should archive > some of it. I set the date to archive everything before 1/1/2001 from all > accounts to a file called 2000 archive. What I expected to see was all the > transactions previous to 1/1/2001 gone from my main file and a new file > (2000 archive) with all of those transactions in it. What I got was far from > it. > I checked several accounts in my active file and the only thing missing from > them was the pre 2001 spend transactions. All of the deposits were still > there. When I looked at the 200 archive file, it contained all transactions > from the original file. Everything from 1/1/2000 through the current date. > It actually seems to be a complete image of my original data before any > archiving. > I don't see how this does anything but screw up my files. Can sombody set me > straight on how this is supposed to be used? Or does this thing just not > work? |
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| I have about 4 years of data in my active file so I thought I should archive some of it. I set the date to archive everything before 1/1/2001 from all accounts to a file called 2000 archive. What I expected to see was all the transactions previous to 1/1/2001 gone from my main file and a new file (2000 archive) with all of those transactions in it. What I got was far from it. I checked several accounts in my active file and the only thing missing from them was the pre 2001 spend transactions. All of the deposits were still there. When I looked at the 200 archive file, it contained all transactions from the original file. Everything from 1/1/2000 through the current date. It actually seems to be a complete image of my original data before any archiving. I don't see how this does anything but screw up my files. Can sombody set me straight on how this is supposed to be used? Or does this thing just not work? Thanks Bob |
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