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Old 12-21-2008, 09:08 PM
Scott Tyler
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desgnr wrote:
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> Scott:
> I run 0.70
> I thought that was the only stable release.
> Is 1.00 stable ?


It depends on what your definition of "stable" is.

I've had problems with nearly every version I've run. Newer versions
come with content and ads that don't really help the client run better,
but newer versions seem to handle uPnP NAT traversal better.

The IE add-ons (which seem to install even when they're unchecked during
setup) tend to cause IE7 on Vista to hang. The first order of business
should be to load "Internet Options" (inetcpl.cpl in the Run box or a
command prompt) and disable the BitComet-related IE add-ons. As many
pieces of software (such as Money) depend on IE, it's important to do
this, even if IE isn't the default browser.

I also disabled all the browser integration options from inside BitComet
once I got it installed.

As I'm behind a NAT and don't like having to configure port forwarding
every time my IP and/or listen port changes, running the latest version
works for me.

I only use BitComet a few times a year when there's something I'm
interested in seeing.

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Scott Tyler
agent_scotty-at-hotmail-dot-com
  #11  
Old 12-21-2008, 07:50 PM
desgnr
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Scott:
I run 0.70
I thought that was the only stable release.
Is 1.00 stable ?
"Scott Tyler" <agent_scotty-at-hotmail-dot-com> wrote in message
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- quote -

> desgnr wrote:
> > Scott:
> > Thanks for your help.
> > I found it.
> > Do i have to put that path in Bit Comet ?
> > It is alot more work than going to Programs/Bit comet/downloads.
> > Can files in the Virtual Store be deleted ?

> What version of BitComet do you have?
> I had been running BitComet 0.99 or 1.00, which in the past always worked
> properly with Windows Vista's virtualization.
> I just tried updating to 1.07, and it doesn't work with Vista's
> virtualization at all. Every time I shut it down and restart it, all
> torrents and all torrent history disappears.
> I had to uninstall it, delete its directory from both "Program Files" and
> the "VirtualStore" area, reinstall it, and then use an administrator
> account to assign ownership and full control of its directory (and all
> child objects) in "Program Files" to my regular limited user account.
> So far, all writes have gone directly to "Program Files", and nothing has
> been created under "VirtualStore".
> Pain in the butt, but at least it's working now. There will probably be
> things I want to torrent in the next week or two.
> If you're not familiar with working with NTFS ownership and permissions,
> Cal's suggestion to rightclick the shortcut and "Run as Adminisistrator"
> should also bypass the virtualization problem.
> --
> Scott Tyler
> agent_scotty-at-hotmail-dot-com


  #10  
Old 12-21-2008, 05:31 PM
Scott Tyler
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desgnr wrote:
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> Scott:
> Thanks for your help.
> I found it.
> Do i have to put that path in Bit Comet ?
> It is alot more work than going to Programs/Bit comet/downloads.
> Can files in the Virtual Store be deleted ?


What version of BitComet do you have?

I had been running BitComet 0.99 or 1.00, which in the past always
worked properly with Windows Vista's virtualization.

I just tried updating to 1.07, and it doesn't work with Vista's
virtualization at all. Every time I shut it down and restart it, all
torrents and all torrent history disappears.

I had to uninstall it, delete its directory from both "Program Files"
and the "VirtualStore" area, reinstall it, and then use an administrator
account to assign ownership and full control of its directory (and all
child objects) in "Program Files" to my regular limited user account.

So far, all writes have gone directly to "Program Files", and nothing
has been created under "VirtualStore".

Pain in the butt, but at least it's working now. There will probably be
things I want to torrent in the next week or two.

If you're not familiar with working with NTFS ownership and permissions,
Cal's suggestion to rightclick the shortcut and "Run as Adminisistrator"
should also bypass the virtualization problem.

--
Scott Tyler
agent_scotty-at-hotmail-dot-com
  #9  
Old 12-21-2008, 02:15 PM
Bob Peel, MVP
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Almost certainly yes!

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Microsoft MVP - Money

For unofficial FAQs see
http://money.mvps.org/
or
http://umpmfaq.info/

I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.

"desgnr" <desgnr[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uDtzeL3YJHA.4072[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> Why can't i find "C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program
> Files\BitComet"
> Do i have to show hidden files to get to it ?
> "Scott Tyler" <agent_scotty-at-hotmail-dot-com> wrote in message
> news:uzxQZ4xYJHA.1336[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > desgnr wrote:
> > > Scott:
> > > Thanks for your help.
> > > I found it.
> > > Do i have to put that path in Bit Comet ?
> > > It is alot more work than going to Programs/Bit comet/downloads.
> > > Can files in the Virtual Store be deleted ?
> > > I send all my BitComet downloads to C:\Users\Public\[Public Downloads or

> > Public Videos] to avoid the issue altogether.
> > > I don't know what would happen if you tried to map the Virtual Store

> > location directly into BitComet, as it's used internally by Vista to
> > redirect from "Program Files" and other off-limits locations.
> > > As my Virtual Store is only 28 megs or so, I haven't worried about

> > deleting it. I would assume that any files deleted from there would
> > magically reappear the next time the offending piece of software was used
> > again.
> > > One piece of software I have, Valve Software's Steam, stores all its data

> > under "Program Files", and generally will not function properly on the
> > NTFS file system with a limited user account. I used an administrator
> > account to assign ownership and "Full Control" of the Steam directory to
> > my limited user account. After doing that, Steam works properly with my
> > limited user account, and none of its 18.5 gigs of files gets
> > virtualized.
> > > I'm not sure if that would help with your situation, but if you know how

> > to assign ownership and permissions, it may be something to try.
> > > --

> > Scott Tyler
> > agent_scotty-at-hotmail-dot-com


  #8  
Old 12-21-2008, 12:48 PM
desgnr
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Why can't i find "C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program
Files\BitComet"
Do i have to show hidden files to get to it ?

"Scott Tyler" <agent_scotty-at-hotmail-dot-com> wrote in message
news:uzxQZ4xYJHA.1336[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> desgnr wrote:
> > Scott:
> > Thanks for your help.
> > I found it.
> > Do i have to put that path in Bit Comet ?
> > It is alot more work than going to Programs/Bit comet/downloads.
> > Can files in the Virtual Store be deleted ?

> I send all my BitComet downloads to C:\Users\Public\[Public Downloads or
> Public Videos] to avoid the issue altogether.
> I don't know what would happen if you tried to map the Virtual Store
> location directly into BitComet, as it's used internally by Vista to
> redirect from "Program Files" and other off-limits locations.
> As my Virtual Store is only 28 megs or so, I haven't worried about
> deleting it. I would assume that any files deleted from there would
> magically reappear the next time the offending piece of software was used
> again.
> One piece of software I have, Valve Software's Steam, stores all its data
> under "Program Files", and generally will not function properly on the
> NTFS file system with a limited user account. I used an administrator
> account to assign ownership and "Full Control" of the Steam directory to
> my limited user account. After doing that, Steam works properly with my
> limited user account, and none of its 18.5 gigs of files gets virtualized.
> I'm not sure if that would help with your situation, but if you know how
> to assign ownership and permissions, it may be something to try.
> --
> Scott Tyler
> agent_scotty-at-hotmail-dot-com


  #7  
Old 12-21-2008, 02:42 AM
Scott Tyler
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desgnr wrote:
- quote -

> Scott:
> Thanks for your help.
> I found it.
> Do i have to put that path in Bit Comet ?
> It is alot more work than going to Programs/Bit comet/downloads.
> Can files in the Virtual Store be deleted ?


I send all my BitComet downloads to C:\Users\Public\[Public Downloads or
Public Videos] to avoid the issue altogether.

I don't know what would happen if you tried to map the Virtual Store
location directly into BitComet, as it's used internally by Vista to
redirect from "Program Files" and other off-limits locations.

As my Virtual Store is only 28 megs or so, I haven't worried about
deleting it. I would assume that any files deleted from there would
magically reappear the next time the offending piece of software was
used again.

One piece of software I have, Valve Software's Steam, stores all its
data under "Program Files", and generally will not function properly on
the NTFS file system with a limited user account. I used an
administrator account to assign ownership and "Full Control" of the
Steam directory to my limited user account. After doing that, Steam
works properly with my limited user account, and none of its 18.5 gigs
of files gets virtualized.

I'm not sure if that would help with your situation, but if you know how
to assign ownership and permissions, it may be something to try.

--
Scott Tyler
agent_scotty-at-hotmail-dot-com
  #6  
Old 12-21-2008, 12:26 AM
desgnr
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Scott:
Thanks for your help.
I found it.
Do i have to put that path in Bit Comet ?
It is alot more work than going to Programs/Bit comet/downloads.
Can files in the Virtual Store be deleted ?
"Scott Tyler" <agent_scotty-at-hotmail-dot-com> wrote in message
news:OlJGhPwYJHA.2068[at]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> desgnr wrote:
> > Did not find AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\BitComet
> > See screenshot
> > "Scott Tyler" <agent_scotty-at-hotmail-dot-com> wrote in message
> > news:OGdU4$uYJHA.5312[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Try looking in
> > > > > "C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\BitComet"
> > > > > You'll probably also find your old Money files, and anything else that a
> > > program tried to save to "Program Files", "ProgramData" (formerly "All
> > > Users" on 2K/XP), "Windows", etc. under the "VirtualStore" hierarchy for
> > > your user account.
> > > > > If multiple users on your computer use BitComet (or anything else, for
> > > that matter), you'll have to check the "VirtualStore" for each user to
> > > recover all virtualized files.
> > > > > --
> > > Scott Tyler
> > > agent_scotty-at-hotmail-dot-com
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > Paste

> "C:\Users\desgnr\AppData\Local\VirtualStore"
> in the address bar, or configure "Folder Options" to show hidden files,
> and to not hide system files.
> http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6...alstorede9.png
> --
> Scott Tyler
> agent_scotty-at-hotmail-dot-com


  #5  
Old 12-20-2008, 11:34 PM
Scott Tyler
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desgnr wrote:
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> Did not find AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\BitComet
> See screenshot
> "Scott Tyler" <agent_scotty-at-hotmail-dot-com> wrote in message
> news:OGdU4$uYJHA.5312[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > > Try looking in
> > > "C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\BitComet"
> > > You'll probably also find your old Money files, and anything else that

> > a program tried to save to "Program Files", "ProgramData" (formerly
> > "All Users" on 2K/XP), "Windows", etc. under the "VirtualStore"
> > hierarchy for your user account.
> > > If multiple users on your computer use BitComet (or anything else, for

> > that matter), you'll have to check the "VirtualStore" for each user to
> > recover all virtualized files.
> > > --

> > Scott Tyler
> > agent_scotty-at-hotmail-dot-com

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------


Paste

"C:\Users\desgnr\AppData\Local\VirtualStore"

in the address bar, or configure "Folder Options" to show hidden files,
and to not hide system files.

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6...alstorede9.png

--
Scott Tyler
agent_scotty-at-hotmail-dot-com
  #4  
Old 12-20-2008, 09:11 PM
Scott Tyler
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desgnr wrote:
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> Bob:
> It worked,i put the MNY file in documents & it worked.
> I could'nt have done it without your help.
> Thanks big time.
> Since you are great on vista can you answer another question. Please
> I have a program called Bit Comet to download files on the net.
> I have it set to download to Bit Comet/Downloads.
> After the files are downloaded & i go to the downloads folder it is EMPTY.
> Is this the same kind of situation ?
> I can"t find the downloaded files.
> How can i find them ?


Try looking in

"C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\BitComet"

You'll probably also find your old Money files, and anything else that a
program tried to save to "Program Files", "ProgramData" (formerly "All
Users" on 2K/XP), "Windows", etc. under the "VirtualStore" hierarchy for
your user account.

If multiple users on your computer use BitComet (or anything else, for
that matter), you'll have to check the "VirtualStore" for each user to
recover all virtualized files.

--
Scott Tyler
agent_scotty-at-hotmail-dot-com
  #3  
Old 12-20-2008, 08:46 PM
desgnr
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Bob:
It worked,i put the MNY file in documents & it worked.
I could'nt have done it without your help.

Thanks big time.

Since you are great on vista can you answer another question. Please
I have a program called Bit Comet to download files on the net.
I have it set to download to Bit Comet/Downloads.
After the files are downloaded & i go to the downloads folder it is EMPTY.
Is this the same kind of situation ?
I can"t find the downloaded files.
How can i find them ?

Thank's Thank's Thank's Thank's

"Bob Peel, MVP" <bob_peel[at]kiandra.freeserve.co.uk.INVALID> wrote in message
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- quote -

> Vista has some very strict rules about where the .mny file can live. If
> you put it in "the wrong place" then you can seemingly update it OK but
> when you revisit the file it is as though you had done nothing!
> The .mny file and backups .mbf need to be in a sub-folder in "Documents".
> --
> Regards
> Bob Peel,
> Microsoft MVP - Money
> For unofficial FAQs see
> http://money.mvps.org/
> or
> http://umpmfaq.info/
> I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.
> "desgnr" <desgnr[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:epsulmtYJHA.1188[at]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > Microsoft Money Plus Premium
> > > I just got a new PC with Microsoft Vista Home Premium.

> > When i closed my mone file & went to make a copy of it i noticed the date
> > was wrong.
> > Today is Dec. 20
> > The date on my money file was Dec. 18
> > I open the file & is up to date.
> > But when i copy the file & put it on a flash drive for backup.
> > Then i opened the file to check it,it was the old file & not up to
> > date.( still saying Dec. 18 )
> > I never had this problem with Money with Windows XP Pro.
> > Any solution appreciated.


  #2  
Old 12-20-2008, 08:17 PM
desgnr
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Thanks for your quick reply:

I have my money MNY file in Programs/Microsoft Money Plus

I have backups set to desgnr/documents ( desgnr being my pc name )

Are you saying i have to have my MNY file also in desgnr/documents ?



"Bob Peel, MVP" <bob_peel[at]kiandra.freeserve.co.uk.INVALID> wrote in message
news:u78%23LQuYJHA.3808[at]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> Vista has some very strict rules about where the .mny file can live. If
> you put it in "the wrong place" then you can seemingly update it OK but
> when you revisit the file it is as though you had done nothing!
> The .mny file and backups .mbf need to be in a sub-folder in "Documents".
> --
> Regards
> Bob Peel,
> Microsoft MVP - Money
> For unofficial FAQs see
> http://money.mvps.org/
> or
> http://umpmfaq.info/
> I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.
> "desgnr" <desgnr[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:epsulmtYJHA.1188[at]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > Microsoft Money Plus Premium
> > > I just got a new PC with Microsoft Vista Home Premium.

> > When i closed my mone file & went to make a copy of it i noticed the date
> > was wrong.
> > Today is Dec. 20
> > The date on my money file was Dec. 18
> > I open the file & is up to date.
> > But when i copy the file & put it on a flash drive for backup.
> > Then i opened the file to check it,it was the old file & not up to
> > date.( still saying Dec. 18 )
> > I never had this problem with Money with Windows XP Pro.
> > Any solution appreciated.


  #1  
Old 12-20-2008, 07:48 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, desgnr wrote:

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> Microsoft Money Plus Premium
> I just got a new PC with Microsoft Vista Home Premium.
> When i closed my mone file & went to make a copy of it i noticed the date
> was wrong.
> Today is Dec. 20
> The date on my money file was Dec. 18
> I open the file & is up to date.
> But when i copy the file & put it on a flash drive for backup.
> Then i opened the file to check it,it was the old file & not up to date.(
> still saying Dec. 18 )
> I never had this problem with Money with Windows XP Pro.
> Any solution appreciated.


Be sure that your Money and backup files are moved to a spot that
you will have full privileges to, such as Documents/MyDocuments.
If they are in a place like ProgramFiles, Vista will create an
impermanent copy of the file for the user to use, unless the user
explicitly right-clicks at launch and choose RunAsAdministrator
that time.
 
Old 12-20-2008, 07:46 PM
Bob Peel, MVP
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Default Re: File problem

Vista has some very strict rules about where the .mny file can live. If you
put it in "the wrong place" then you can seemingly update it OK but when you
revisit the file it is as though you had done nothing!

The .mny file and backups .mbf need to be in a sub-folder in "Documents".

--
Regards
Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

For unofficial FAQs see
http://money.mvps.org/
or
http://umpmfaq.info/

I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.

"desgnr" <desgnr[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:epsulmtYJHA.1188[at]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> Microsoft Money Plus Premium
> I just got a new PC with Microsoft Vista Home Premium.
> When i closed my mone file & went to make a copy of it i noticed the date
> was wrong.
> Today is Dec. 20
> The date on my money file was Dec. 18
> I open the file & is up to date.
> But when i copy the file & put it on a flash drive for backup.
> Then i opened the file to check it,it was the old file & not up to
> date.( still saying Dec. 18 )
> I never had this problem with Money with Windows XP Pro.
> Any solution appreciated.


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Old 12-20-2008, 06:31 PM
desgnr
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Default File problem

Microsoft Money Plus Premium

I just got a new PC with Microsoft Vista Home Premium.
When i closed my mone file & went to make a copy of it i noticed the date
was wrong.
Today is Dec. 20
The date on my money file was Dec. 18
I open the file & is up to date.
But when i copy the file & put it on a flash drive for backup.
Then i opened the file to check it,it was the old file & not up to date.(
still saying Dec. 18 )
I never had this problem with Money with Windows XP Pro.
Any solution appreciated.

 

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