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Old 11-23-2008, 03:07 PM
Paul Pedersen
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"SteveBell" <respond[at]online.newsgroup.invalid> wrote in message
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> You have to remember that the median IQ is 100. Half of all the people
> in the world are less able than that. Lots of them are _much_ less able.


When you think of how dumb the average person is, it's really disheartening
to realize that half the population is even dumber.



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> Her response: "You're getting rid of my job!"
> My reply: "No, I'm freeing you up to do things that require thinking."


It sounds like she didn't want that.



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> She left shortly after that to go to nursing school.

Oh god.



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> she liked to wear these *really* short skirts....

See, you made things worse after all. Now who's the dummy? ;-)



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Old 11-22-2008, 09:42 PM
SteveBell
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Paul Pedersen wrote in <O#IU5yOTJHA.3520[at]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> :


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> > "Paul Pedersen" <nospam[at]no.spam> wrote in message
> news:%23f%23vxS$SJHA.5408[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > > But one would think that with 350 million people over there, that
> > > there'd be plenty of incentive.

> "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
> message news:%23nMHtIGTJHA.6060[at]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > > I dunno. 300 million people here don't seem to be doing much for

> > their business case.

> You have a point.
> I don't understand it though. I've been using Quicken and/or Money
> for close to 20 years now, and I can't imagine how anyone gets along
> without them.
> Like my friend with the ten rental properties, still doing accounting
> by hand, or spreadsheet at most. She has also several bank and
> brokerage accounts. Always losing track of statements, never knows
> how much money she has where, or how any of the investments are
> doing. It's crazy! And you can just imagine what tax time is like.
> There must be a lot of people like that, who would benefit
> tremendously from personal finance software. Seriously, I can't
> understand why everyone doesn't use it. It's like living in the Stone
> Age - intentionally!.


You have to remember that the median IQ is 100. Half of all the people
in the world are less able than that. Lots of them are _much_ less able.

Plenty of those under-100s are capable of running a business, but not
necessarily of running it well. You know to do extra work up front
finding tools and procedures that will save you lots more work in the
future, but that's a shortcoming of less able people. They figure out
_a_ way that works, then never deviate from it.


An example: I was Information Officer at a manufacturing company. One
of our clerks was in charge of generating a weekly production report.
She printed four or five different reports from our ERP system, then
typed selected numbers into a spreadsheet, generating summaries. She
then got more numbers from spreadsheets created by other people and
took numbers from all these sources and typed them into a third
spreadsheet. It took her more than two days every week.

I spent a day or two designing a report for her that did all that work
in a few seconds, pulling the numbers directly from the ERP system.

Her response: "You're getting rid of my job!"

My reply: "No, I'm freeing you up to do things that require thinking."

She could have taken the initiative to do all this herself, but she had
_a_ way that worked.

She left shortly after that to go to nursing school. Productivity took
a small jump, because the guys from the shop floor quit coming into the
office area and hanging around waiting for her to drop something. You
see, she liked to wear these *really* short skirts....

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Old 11-22-2008, 08:53 PM
Paul Pedersen
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You have a point.

I don't understand it though. I've been using Quicken and/or Money for close
to 20 years now, and I can't imagine how anyone gets along without them.

Like my friend with the ten rental properties, still doing accounting by
hand, or spreadsheet at most. She has also several bank and brokerage
accounts. Always losing track of statements, never knows how much money she
has where, or how any of the investments are doing. It's crazy! And you can
just imagine what tax time is like.

There must be a lot of people like that, who would benefit tremendously from
personal finance software. Seriously, I can't understand why everyone
doesn't use it. It's like living in the Stone Age - intentionally!.



"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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> I dunno. 300 million people here don't seem to be doing much for their
> business case.
> "Paul Pedersen" <nospam[at]no.spam> wrote in message
> news:%23f%23vxS$SJHA.5408[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > But one would think that with 350 million people over there, that there'd
> > be plenty of incentive.



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Old 11-22-2008, 04:21 AM
Dick Watson
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I dunno. 300 million people here don't seem to be doing much for their
business case.

"Paul Pedersen" <nospam[at]no.spam> wrote in message
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> But one would think that with 350 million people over there, that there'd
> be plenty of incentive.



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Old 11-21-2008, 03:17 PM
Paul Pedersen
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I guess Europe has a way to go with the economic integration. Stock market
quotes for instance seem like a prime candidate for standardization.
Standardized bank downloads, well, we still have that problem here.

But one would think that with 350 million people over there, that there'd be
plenty of incentive.



"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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> I don't think the problem is selling in Euros. I think the problem is
> people who buy in Euros expect the thing to be tailored to their language
> and tax laws and local bank downloads and stock market quotes and so forth.
> That localization costs more than the user base in all of these separate
> countries with all of their separate languages and stock markets and tax
> laws and so forth can carry as a profitable business model.
> "Paul Pedersen" <nospam[at]no.spam> wrote in message
> news:OFxldmcSJHA.5348[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > An awful lot of people use Euros. Why isn't Money getting some of that
> > business? Who is getting it?



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Old 11-19-2008, 01:23 AM
Dick Watson
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I don't think the problem is selling in Euros. I think the problem is people
who buy in Euros expect the thing to be tailored to their language and tax
laws and local bank downloads and stock market quotes and so forth. That
localization costs more than the user base in all of these separate
countries with all of their separate languages and stock markets and tax
laws and so forth can carry as a profitable business model.

"Paul Pedersen" <nospam[at]no.spam> wrote in message
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> An awful lot of people use Euros. Why isn't Money getting some of that
> business? Who is getting it?



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Old 11-19-2008, 01:11 AM
Scott Tyler
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Paul Pedersen wrote:
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> An awful lot of people use Euros. Why isn't Money getting some of that
> business? Who is getting it?


Apparently not Intuit: I just walked through placing an order on the
Quicken website, and the only countries in the drop-down selector were
USA and Canada.

Users from other countries have been able to buy Money Plus by giving a
false USA address for the download product. I don't know if that works
with Quicken or not, but as there isn't a trial version of Quicken, less
ppl are likely to be willing to take that chance.

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Old 11-18-2008, 09:04 PM
Paul Pedersen
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Default Re: No Microsoft Money on Microsoft Store

An awful lot of people use Euros. Why isn't Money getting some of that
business? Who is getting it?



"Bob Peel, MVP" <bob_peel[at]kiandra.freeserve.co.uk.INVALID> wrote in message
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> It is a sign that users outside the US didn't buy enough copies of Money
> to make a profit. Seems like the US is suffering from the same syndrome.
> --
> Regards
> Bob Peel,
> Microsoft MVP - Money
> For unofficial FAQs see
> http://money.mvps.org/
> or
> http://umpmfaq.info/
> I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.
> "Paul Pedersen" <nospam[at]no.spam> wrote in message
> news:uE8uBnRSJHA.5904[at]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > > "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in

> > message news:%23KaUC$lRJHA.1028[at]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > > > > But you may be correct that Money's future is less than encouraging.
> > > I've been concerned about that myself. Dropping non-US business is not a

> > good sign.
> >


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Old 11-18-2008, 05:59 AM
Bob Peel, MVP
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It is a sign that users outside the US didn't buy enough copies of Money to
make a profit. Seems like the US is suffering from the same syndrome.

--
Regards
Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

For unofficial FAQs see
http://money.mvps.org/
or
http://umpmfaq.info/

I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.

"Paul Pedersen" <nospam[at]no.spam> wrote in message
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> "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
> message news:%23KaUC$lRJHA.1028[at]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > > But you may be correct that Money's future is less than encouraging.

> I've been concerned about that myself. Dropping non-US business is not a
> good sign.


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Old 11-18-2008, 12:05 AM
Paul Pedersen
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"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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> But you may be correct that Money's future is less than encouraging.

I've been concerned about that myself. Dropping non-US business is not a
good sign.


 
Old 11-14-2008, 12:49 PM
Dick Watson
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I don't know that this means that. It is still available through the links
at http://www.microsoft.com/money. It may just be a case that the
pre-existing electronic distribution arrangement for Money precluded this
one.

But you may be correct that Money's future is less than encouraging.

I have continuous data since 1993 in Money.

"Kocureq" <adres[at]w.stopce.pl> wrote in message
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> Today a new MS software store was announced - www.MicrosoftStore.com
> However, when I search for money, there's no Microsoft Money there.
> Everything points to assumption that Money will be discontinued really
> soon. Too bad - I have couple years of historical data...



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Old 11-14-2008, 07:49 AM
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Default No Microsoft Money on Microsoft Store

Today a new MS software store was announced - www.MicrosoftStore.com

However, when I search for money, there's no Microsoft Money there.


Everything points to assumption that Money will be discontinued really
soon. Too bad - I have couple years of historical data...
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