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Old 10-16-2008, 06:10 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: Downloaded Investments Won't Match Up With Ones in Portfolio

In microsoft.public.money, The Merg wrote:

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> Correct. All the funds end in "X". And none of these funds have Capital
> Gains transactions. The only thing that happens is interest on them is
> reinvested.


So they are ????X but not ???XX symbols. Those should have been
termed as mutual funds, rather than stocks, in the downloads. Dang.

If you change any existing Interest transactions to Dividend (and
ReinvestInterest to ReinvestDividend, you may be able to transform
this "mutual fund" to a "stock".

If it had been set up as a Money Market Fund, that would be
different.
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Old 10-16-2008, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: Downloaded Investments Won't Match Up With Ones in Portfolio

I'll give them a call and see what happens. At least in the past with manual
entries, I could actually download the transactions from their website and
then import them into Money (correcting a few, such as admin fees).

- Merg
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"Marilyn & Bob" <Privacy[at]nospam.please> wrote in message
news:ebtxxq5LJHA.5648[at]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
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> The problem is caused (as you surmised) by your broker incorrectly coding
> your Mutual Fund as a stock. There is no easy. If you go through the
> workaround of converting your Mutual Fund to a stock category, it won't be
> able to record capital gains. You can call your brokers Technical Service
> department and ask them to correct the problem, but my guess is that they
> will say that they cannot change their programming. My suggestion to you
> is to ignore this new "service" and go back to manually updating your
> account.
> --
> Peace,
> BobJ
> "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
> news:dnfef494eku9v0sv2n6prqs7ad1mdhnut7[at]4ax.com...
> > In microsoft.public.money, The Merg wrote:
> > > > Okay, what I did notice is that if I went through with adding the new
> > > funds,
> > > it created them as Stocks (even though they are mutual funds).
> > > I suspect that these are closed end funds or ETFs, rather than

> > regular funds (five-letter symbols ending in X).
> > > > I'm assuming
> > > tt will not let me combine the existing fund into the new fund since they
> > > are different types. However, when I try to change the existing fund to a
> > > stock I am told that I have investment transactions not supported by this
> > > type and to edit or remove them before changing the security type. The
> > > only
> > > type of transactions that I have are Buy, Reinvest Dividend, and Remove
> > > Shares; all of which are available when an investment is a stock or
> > > mutual
> > > fund.
> > > True. Are you sure you don't have capital gain transactions for the

> > securities?



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Old 10-16-2008, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: Downloaded Investments Won't Match Up With Ones in Portfolio

Correct. All the funds end in "X". And none of these funds have Capital
Gains transactions. The only thing that happens is interest on them is
reinvested.

- Merg

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"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, The Merg wrote:
> > Okay, what I did notice is that if I went through with adding the new
> > funds,
> > it created them as Stocks (even though they are mutual funds).

> I suspect that these are closed end funds or ETFs, rather than
> regular funds (five-letter symbols ending in X).
> > I'm assuming
> > tt will not let me combine the existing fund into the new fund since they
> > are different types. However, when I try to change the existing fund to a
> > stock I am told that I have investment transactions not supported by this
> > type and to edit or remove them before changing the security type. The
> > only
> > type of transactions that I have are Buy, Reinvest Dividend, and Remove
> > Shares; all of which are available when an investment is a stock or mutual
> > fund.

> True. Are you sure you don't have capital gain transactions for the
> securities?



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Old 10-16-2008, 02:22 PM
Marilyn & Bob
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Default Re: Downloaded Investments Won't Match Up With Ones in Portfolio

The problem is caused (as you surmised) by your broker incorrectly coding
your Mutual Fund as a stock. There is no easy. If you go through the
workaround of converting your Mutual Fund to a stock category, it won't be
able to record capital gains. You can call your brokers Technical Service
department and ask them to correct the problem, but my guess is that they
will say that they cannot change their programming. My suggestion to you is
to ignore this new "service" and go back to manually updating your account.
--
Peace,
BobJ

"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
news:dnfef494eku9v0sv2n6prqs7ad1mdhnut7[at]4ax.com...
- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, The Merg wrote:
> > Okay, what I did notice is that if I went through with adding the new
> > funds,
> > it created them as Stocks (even though they are mutual funds).

> I suspect that these are closed end funds or ETFs, rather than
> regular funds (five-letter symbols ending in X).
> > I'm assuming
> > tt will not let me combine the existing fund into the new fund since they
> > are different types. However, when I try to change the existing fund to a
> > stock I am told that I have investment transactions not supported by this
> > type and to edit or remove them before changing the security type. The
> > only
> > type of transactions that I have are Buy, Reinvest Dividend, and Remove
> > Shares; all of which are available when an investment is a stock or mutual
> > fund.

> True. Are you sure you don't have capital gain transactions for the
> securities?



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Old 10-16-2008, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: Downloaded Investments Won't Match Up With Ones in Portfolio

In microsoft.public.money, The Merg wrote:

- quote -

> Okay, what I did notice is that if I went through with adding the new funds,
> it created them as Stocks (even though they are mutual funds).


I suspect that these are closed end funds or ETFs, rather than
regular funds (five-letter symbols ending in X).

- quote -

> I'm assuming
> tt will not let me combine the existing fund into the new fund since they
> are different types. However, when I try to change the existing fund to a
> stock I am told that I have investment transactions not supported by this
> type and to edit or remove them before changing the security type. The only
> type of transactions that I have are Buy, Reinvest Dividend, and Remove
> Shares; all of which are available when an investment is a stock or mutual
> fund.


True. Are you sure you don't have capital gain transactions for the
securities?
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Old 10-16-2008, 11:15 AM
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Default Re: Downloaded Investments Won't Match Up With Ones in Portfolio

Okay, what I did notice is that if I went through with adding the new funds,
it created them as Stocks (even though they are mutual funds). I'm assuming
tt will not let me combine the existing fund into the new fund since they
are different types. However, when I try to change the existing fund to a
stock I am told that I have investment transactions not supported by this
type and to edit or remove them before changing the security type. The only
type of transactions that I have are Buy, Reinvest Dividend, and Remove
Shares; all of which are available when an investment is a stock or mutual
fund.

- Merg

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Today's problems don't worry me,
I haven't solved yesterday's yet.


"The Merg" <howard_mergler[at]NOSPAM.themerg.net> wrote in message
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> Yes. All of the existing mutual funds are shown as mutual funds.
> - Merg
> --
> Today's problems don't worry me,
> I haven't solved yesterday's yet.
> "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
> news:uvmdf4hc3mcs2qfjetp50ategqtmcd28ud[at]4ax.com...
> > In microsoft.public.money, The Merg wrote:
> > > > I have an investment account that I can download transactions directly in
> > > MS
> > > Money 2007 Deluxe. I had already created the investments in the past and
> > > had
> > > been manually updating them until my provider offered this option. When I
> > > set up the on-line service, it went ahead and performed the first
> > > download.
> > > However, out of the 5 investments I have in the account, it will not
> > > recognize 3 of my investments. It wants to create a new investment in the
> > > account or have me select one from a drop down to match up with the
> > > downloaded investment. The items in the dropdown do not include the
> > > investment I have already been keeping track of my transactions in. As
> > > much
> > > as I can tell, the funds it is having issues with do not seem to have a
> > > stock symbol associated with them and the ones it is listing in the drop
> > > down do not have symbols associated with them either.
> > > > > How can I force it to use the investment that I already have created in
> > > my
> > > Portfolio?
> > > > > Are the existing mutual funds shown as mutual funds in the

> > Investment Details? If not, can you change them to be so?
> >


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Old 10-16-2008, 11:03 AM
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Default Re: Downloaded Investments Won't Match Up With Ones in Portfolio

Yes. All of the existing mutual funds are shown as mutual funds.

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"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, The Merg wrote:
> > I have an investment account that I can download transactions directly in
> > MS
> > Money 2007 Deluxe. I had already created the investments in the past and
> > had
> > been manually updating them until my provider offered this option. When I
> > set up the on-line service, it went ahead and performed the first
> > download.
> > However, out of the 5 investments I have in the account, it will not
> > recognize 3 of my investments. It wants to create a new investment in the
> > account or have me select one from a drop down to match up with the
> > downloaded investment. The items in the dropdown do not include the
> > investment I have already been keeping track of my transactions in. As
> > much
> > as I can tell, the funds it is having issues with do not seem to have a
> > stock symbol associated with them and the ones it is listing in the drop
> > down do not have symbols associated with them either.
> > > How can I force it to use the investment that I already have created in my

> > Portfolio?

> Are the existing mutual funds shown as mutual funds in the
> Investment Details? If not, can you change them to be so?



 
Old 10-16-2008, 06:18 AM
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Default Re: Downloaded Investments Won't Match Up With Ones in Portfolio

In microsoft.public.money, The Merg wrote:

- quote -

> I have an investment account that I can download transactions directly in MS
> Money 2007 Deluxe. I had already created the investments in the past and had
> been manually updating them until my provider offered this option. When I
> set up the on-line service, it went ahead and performed the first download.
> However, out of the 5 investments I have in the account, it will not
> recognize 3 of my investments. It wants to create a new investment in the
> account or have me select one from a drop down to match up with the
> downloaded investment. The items in the dropdown do not include the
> investment I have already been keeping track of my transactions in. As much
> as I can tell, the funds it is having issues with do not seem to have a
> stock symbol associated with them and the ones it is listing in the drop
> down do not have symbols associated with them either.
> How can I force it to use the investment that I already have created in my
> Portfolio?




Are the existing mutual funds shown as mutual funds in the
Investment Details? If not, can you change them to be so?


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Old 10-16-2008, 06:09 AM
The Merg
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Default Downloaded Investments Won't Match Up With Ones in Portfolio

I have an investment account that I can download transactions directly in MS
Money 2007 Deluxe. I had already created the investments in the past and had
been manually updating them until my provider offered this option. When I
set up the on-line service, it went ahead and performed the first download.
However, out of the 5 investments I have in the account, it will not
recognize 3 of my investments. It wants to create a new investment in the
account or have me select one from a drop down to match up with the
downloaded investment. The items in the dropdown do not include the
investment I have already been keeping track of my transactions in. As much
as I can tell, the funds it is having issues with do not seem to have a
stock symbol associated with them and the ones it is listing in the drop
down do not have symbols associated with them either.

How can I force it to use the investment that I already have created in my
Portfolio?

Thanks,
Merg

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