Ah! Zeroing the total and leaving the price field blank works.

In my case, it is a Mutual Fund and I AM using Transaction Forms.

Thank you both!

In microsoft.public.money, Dick Watson wrote:

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.... in a tax-deferred account, such as a 401-k. If it were a taxable
account, your 2-entry way would be the only correct way, if I
interpret US taxes correctly.

One thing I have heard commented on is that a fee on a particular
security in a taxable account, such as an ADR/ADS fee, should be
added to the basis. Money does not have a straight-forward way to do
that.

Is the investment Type a Bond? (A guess; this is more or less what I tried
with a Mutual Fund type and it worked exactly as I expected.)

I just revisited this. When I set $25 in the total and then tab to the
commission and put $25 there, it changes the total to $0. I do not use
Transaction Forms. When I used 1.112 shares for a commission of $25 and a
total of $0, it correctly calculated the price at $22.482014. So, my earlier
advice to use a total of $25 and a commission of $25 was whacked as I hadn't
noticed it zeroed out my Total to keep the equation in balance after I
entered the $25 commission.

FWIW, I do real Sells and enter the fees in the cash account as
Miscellaneous : Service Charges / Fees. Chris' method of using commission is
also valid.

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In microsoft.public.money, Scoop wrote:

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Well stated. Sorry for the previous description. That should be

Activity: Sell
Transfer to: <401k cash accountQuantity: 0.0015
Price: <left blankCommission: 0.27
Total: 0.00
Memo: 401-k fee.

Thanks for the help...here are some more specifics, following your
advice...

I enter a transaction with the following:
Activity: Sell
Transfer to: <401k cash accountQuantity: 0.0015
Price: <left blankCommission: 0.27
Total: 0.27

Money then calculates $180.00 for the price but when I go to the cash
account, it shows a $0.27 deposit. What am I missing? Shouldn't the
transfer amount be zero?

In microsoft.public.money, Scoop wrote:

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I suspect you are entering a Price. In Money, it is generally best
to let Money compute the price. If you want to do that technique,
enter Commission, Total, and Quantity. Let Money compute price. This
method lets you enter just one transaction.

If you are willing to enter two or more transactions, you can enter
a Sell and then either an OtherExpense transaction into the
investment transactions register, or a Payment into the cash
transactions register. The OtherExpense will count the expense as a
loss of performance of the particular investment. If you have more
than one investment, you could allocate the expense by using more
than one OtherExpense transactions.

Without your specifying any detail of the transaction you are trying to
enter, it's hard to say.

I think Chris' thinking ran along these lines.

Say they sell 1.045 shares for $25 of fees. Enter a Sell activity Investment
Transaction in the Investment Account for 1.045 shares, $25 total value, $25
commission. You can specify a transfer account, but it would just put in a
$0 transfer so why bother. I just test this here and it worked fine.

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I'm sure I'm missing something simple but...

I'm trying to enter 401k fees as described by Chris Cowels here:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...e8298aa08ae415

I get a message saying "The commission you've entered is larger than
the total amount of the investment transaction..."

and it will not let me save the transaction. What am I doing wrong?