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Old 06-27-2008, 11:15 AM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: Failed conversion from MS Money 2002 to MS Money 2008

In microsoft.public.money, Marilyn & Bob wrote:

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> Let me restate what I think is the OP's situation. His client has a working
> non-USA version (international?) of Money 2002 on an existing computer.
> His client wants to replace the computer with an modern one running Vista.
> However he does not have the installation files for Money 2002, so he can't
> install it on the replacement Vista machine. He can export the data using
> the original installation, but he can't use the data file itself because he
> does not have the correct localized version of Money to install on the new
> computer.
> Again, my solution is Ebay. Try to find a 2002 or later International
> version of Money that should be able to directly read the data file that is
> on the old computer.


You appear to have interpreted it better.
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Old 06-27-2008, 04:38 AM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: Failed conversion from MS Money 2002 to MS Money 2008

I've not played with the code, but if it works for QIF in to Excel then QIF
out of Excel, yes, it could be one good start on a way to approach this.

I'm still thinking the best bet is to find, somehow, replacement code of the
same localization. That avoids the problem of figuring out what all the
conversions need to be and avoids the fact that the QIF export/import route,
at its absolute best, leaves lots of data behind.

"John Pollard" <invalid[at]invalid.com> wrote in message
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> I believe the free Excel macro, "xl2qif" (Google for it), would take care
> of most, if not all, date formatting problems.
> Possibly, the currency conversion could be done in Excel as well.



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Old 06-27-2008, 03:09 AM
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Default Re: Failed conversion from MS Money 2002 to MS Money 2008

Let me restate what I think is the OP's situation. His client has a working
non-USA version (international?) of Money 2002 on an existing computer.
His client wants to replace the computer with an modern one running Vista.
However he does not have the installation files for Money 2002, so he can't
install it on the replacement Vista machine. He can export the data using
the original installation, but he can't use the data file itself because he
does not have the correct localized version of Money to install on the new
computer.

Again, my solution is Ebay. Try to find a 2002 or later International
version of Money that should be able to directly read the data file that is
on the old computer.
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Peace,
BobJ

"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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> In microsoft.public.money, jackblade wrote:
> > By different version I do indeed imply different localization. Assuming I
> > export the files to a QIF format as you suggest, what kind of editing
> > would
> > it have to follow?

> You would need to install a version of Money that opens your file to
> create QIF files. There is the problem.



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Old 06-27-2008, 02:44 AM
John Pollard
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Default Re: Failed conversion from MS Money 2002 to MS Money 2008

Dick Watson wrote:
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> The issues I foresee with the QIF files are things like date
> format
> mismatches and currency valuation problems that would require
> a
> "conversion" step to be applied to the data in the QIF files
> before
> the import step so that the import step end with sane results.
> None
> of these would be hard ONCE you've figured out what they
> needed to
> be. They could be done to the QIF files, I'd anticipate, with
> strightforward scripting in VBS or Python or whatever floats
> your
> boat. But first you'd have to figure out what steps were
> necessary.


I believe the free Excel macro, "xl2qif" (Google for it), would
take care of most, if not all, date formatting problems.

Possibly, the currency conversion could be done in Excel as
well.

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  #6  
Old 06-26-2008, 11:08 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: Failed conversion from MS Money 2002 to MS Money 2008

In microsoft.public.money, jackblade wrote:

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> By different version I do indeed imply different localization. Assuming I
> export the files to a QIF format as you suggest, what kind of editing would
> it have to follow?


You would need to install a version of Money that opens your file to
create QIF files. There is the problem.

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Old 06-26-2008, 10:38 PM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: Failed conversion from MS Money 2002 to MS Money 2008

The issues I foresee with the QIF files are things like date format
mismatches and currency valuation problems that would require a "conversion"
step to be applied to the data in the QIF files before the import step so
that the import step end with sane results. None of these would be hard ONCE
you've figured out what they needed to be. They could be done to the QIF
files, I'd anticipate, with strightforward scripting in VBS or Python or
whatever floats your boat. But first you'd have to figure out what steps were
necessary.

Microsoft offers no such service--it's really hard to imagine how they could
offer such a service at a price anybody would be willing to pay.

One other issue to consider: Money for US is not supported or sold outside
the US. Any solution that uses it is little improved from your client's
present posture.

Do they still have the installer/CD for M02 or can they find another copy?
Why is just staying on M02 precluded? M02 can most likely be made to work in,
say, Vista.

"jackblade" wrote:

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> By different version I do indeed imply different localization. Assuming I
> export the files to a QIF format as you suggest, what kind of editing would
> it have to follow? Would I just edit the file in notepad? Does anyone from
> Microsoft read these posts? Is there any way I can send the qif or mny files
> to microsoft for them to upgrade to the latest versions? To answer Marilyn &
> Bob's reply, the computer that money2002 is running is old and the client
> wants to move to a new PC that I have provided for them. The transition can't
> be completed until I manage to find a solution re money. Just as a reminder,
> I have MS Money 2002 US edition full version, MS Money 2004 US trial edition
> & MS Money 2008 trial, which the client will then purchase should the upgrade
> go through....

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Old 06-26-2008, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: Failed conversion from MS Money 2002 to MS Money 2008

By different version I do indeed imply different localization. Assuming I
export the files to a QIF format as you suggest, what kind of editing would
it have to follow? Would I just edit the file in notepad? Does anyone from
Microsoft read these posts? Is there any way I can send the qif or mny files
to microsoft for them to upgrade to the latest versions? To answer Marilyn &
Bob's reply, the computer that money2002 is running is old and the client
wants to move to a new PC that I have provided for them. The transition can't
be completed until I manage to find a solution re money. Just as a reminder,
I have MS Money 2002 US edition full version, MS Money 2004 US trial edition
& MS Money 2008 trial, which the client will then purchase should the upgrade
go through....

"Dick Watson" wrote:

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> The issue is different localizations not versions.
> The only known path discussed here is to open the file in the version that
> works, export all the accounts to QIF files and then--following some editing,
> potentially--import the QIF files into the new, foreign, version. This
> approach has many complications and limitations.
> "jackblade" wrote:
> > Thank you for your prompt reply Mr. Watson. So if we go by the assumption
> > that the conversion isn't working because of the different versions, how can
> > I go about converting the 2002 backup files? Is there some sort of tool that
> > I could download or buy, or is there someone at Microsoft I could e-mail my
> > backup files to and get them converted?

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Old 06-26-2008, 04:14 PM
Marilyn & Bob
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Default Re: Failed conversion from MS Money 2002 to MS Money 2008

My ***GUESS*** is that you have the International version of Money which is
no longer updated. From what you wrote you still have the Money 2002
program along with the data. If that is the case, I would recommend that
you keep that setup. There is precious little reason to upgrade anyway.
If you no longer have the application files for M2002, your best bet is to
search on Ebay (Ebay.gr?) for MSMoney, you might be lucky and find a 2002 or
later International version. I ***THINK*** they were produced through the
M2005 version.

Good luck. In any case, I do not think it worth it to do the QIF
import/export just to end up being able to use the US 2008 (and subsequent)
versions.
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BobJ

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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- quote -

> The issue is different localizations not versions.
> The only known path discussed here is to open the file in the version that
> works, export all the accounts to QIF files and then--following some
> editing,
> potentially--import the QIF files into the new, foreign, version. This
> approach has many complications and limitations.
> "jackblade" wrote:
> > Thank you for your prompt reply Mr. Watson. So if we go by the assumption
> > that the conversion isn't working because of the different versions, how
> > can
> > I go about converting the 2002 backup files? Is there some sort of tool
> > that
> > I could download or buy, or is there someone at Microsoft I could e-mail
> > my
> > backup files to and get them converted?



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Old 06-26-2008, 02:44 PM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: Failed conversion from MS Money 2002 to MS Money 2008

The issue is different localizations not versions.

The only known path discussed here is to open the file in the version that
works, export all the accounts to QIF files and then--following some editing,
potentially--import the QIF files into the new, foreign, version. This
approach has many complications and limitations.

"jackblade" wrote:

- quote -

> Thank you for your prompt reply Mr. Watson. So if we go by the assumption
> that the conversion isn't working because of the different versions, how can
> I go about converting the 2002 backup files? Is there some sort of tool that
> I could download or buy, or is there someone at Microsoft I could e-mail my
> backup files to and get them converted?

  #1  
Old 06-26-2008, 01:43 PM
jackblade
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Default Re: Failed conversion from MS Money 2002 to MS Money 2008

Thank you for your prompt reply Mr. Watson. So if we go by the assumption
that the conversion isn't working because of the different versions, how can
I go about converting the 2002 backup files? Is there some sort of tool that
I could download or buy, or is there someone at Microsoft I could e-mail my
backup files to and get them converted?

 
Old 06-26-2008, 12:47 PM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: Failed conversion from MS Money 2002 to MS Money 2008

It is likely a non-US localized version. There is no simple way to tell
that's been reported here--the closest thing that has been described is
comparing the spelling of check (cheque) in help to tell US from UK. But
there have been other localized versions over time.

"jackblade" <jackblade[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I was wondering if someone could help. I am trying to convert an msn money
> 2002 file to msn money 2008 for a client. I have gone through all the
> various
> posts and faq's on the internet and I have read various suggestions on the
> subject...so I have tried so far the following: installed trial edition of
> ms
> money 2004....2007, 2008...all of which come back with the
> dreaded...incompatible version error....i even tried installing ms money
> 2002
> on a different laptop and thaqt came back with exactly the same error
> message. The problem from what I can gather is that the MS Money 2002
> installation on the client's laptop (by the way, I am in Greece) might be
> some sort of localized version (how could I tell....hellp & about reads MS
> Money 2002) and the trials I am using are US version....and therefore the
> incompatibility. The thing is that the person that installed MS Money
> 2002
> for the client has now passed away and I can't ask for a disk or any other
> info. Can anyone please help. The backup file is available for anyone that
> wants to try...Thank you in advance....



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Old 06-26-2008, 09:52 AM
jackblade
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Default Failed conversion from MS Money 2002 to MS Money 2008

I was wondering if someone could help. I am trying to convert an msn money
2002 file to msn money 2008 for a client. I have gone through all the various
posts and faq's on the internet and I have read various suggestions on the
subject...so I have tried so far the following: installed trial edition of ms
money 2004....2007, 2008...all of which come back with the
dreaded...incompatible version error....i even tried installing ms money 2002
on a different laptop and thaqt came back with exactly the same error
message. The problem from what I can gather is that the MS Money 2002
installation on the client's laptop (by the way, I am in Greece) might be
some sort of localized version (how could I tell....hellp & about reads MS
Money 2002) and the trials I am using are US version....and therefore the
incompatibility. The thing is that the person that installed MS Money 2002
for the client has now passed away and I can't ask for a disk or any other
info. Can anyone please help. The backup file is available for anyone that
wants to try...Thank you in advance....
 

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