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Old 06-30-2008, 10:35 PM
Dick Watson
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Glad we could help. Thanks for the feedback.

"Scarlett" wrote:

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> Everything seems to be A-OK! Went back in this morning and just made a
> bunch of changes this afternoon.
> Thanks so much to both you and Cal!

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Old 06-30-2008, 08:01 PM
Scarlett
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Everything seems to be A-OK! Went back in this morning and just made a
bunch of changes this afternoon.

Thanks so much to both you and Cal!


"Dick Watson" wrote:

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> A good point to be unambiguous about. I was assuming we were talking about
> the ones the OP mentioned, but always good to be clear.
> Of course, using Sample.MNY in Vista presents its own issues.
> "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
> news:8veg645u1enkc6i8dlmq6etnf6khjfauju[at]4ax.com...
> > In microsoft.public.money, Dick Watson wrote:
> > > > > > > > Once you are satisfied things are working correctly, yes, deleting the
> > > files
> > > in Program Files would be a very good idea.
> > > ... except sample.mny, which is part of the Money install, could

> > turn out to be useful some day.

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Old 06-30-2008, 03:38 AM
Dick Watson
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A good point to be unambiguous about. I was assuming we were talking about
the ones the OP mentioned, but always good to be clear.

Of course, using Sample.MNY in Vista presents its own issues.

"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
news:8veg645u1enkc6i8dlmq6etnf6khjfauju[at]4ax.com...
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> In microsoft.public.money, Dick Watson wrote:
> > > > Once you are satisfied things are working correctly, yes, deleting the

> > files
> > in Program Files would be a very good idea.

> ... except sample.mny, which is part of the Money install, could
> turn out to be useful some day.



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Old 06-30-2008, 01:51 AM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, Dick Watson wrote:

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> Once you are satisfied things are working correctly, yes, deleting the files
> in Program Files would be a very good idea.


.... except sample.mny, which is part of the Money install, could
turn out to be useful some day.
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Old 06-30-2008, 01:10 AM
Dick Watson
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Comments inline.

"Scarlett" <Scarlett[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> OK, I took both of the .mny files and "sent to" Documents. I was able to
> open them both there and make some changes which were saved. But I don't
> want to guarantee the problem is solved because I've thought it was solved
> before until I opened it up the next day. So will report back to you
> after I
> try to open it tomorrow and see what happens. I will re-enter the data
> rather than using restore and risking some of the old problems/settings
> creeping back in.


Sounds like the right plan.

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> I'm guessing I should also now delete the .mny folders that are in Program
> Files? I was a little nervous about doing that, but I guess it should be
> OK
> since they're both working out of the Documents folder. When I click on
> File
> in Money, it shows 4 files - 2 in Documents and 2 in Program Files. (more
> comments below)


Once you are satisfied things are working correctly, yes, deleting the files
in Program Files would be a very good idea.

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> Thanks again for your help. I'm trying to figure out why if I haven't
> made
> > > any changes, this would start happening all of a sudden!
> > > Didn't you upgrade to Vista? Alternately is the "restore" scenario

> > posited
> > above.

> Yes, but I downloaded the program directly onto my computer that had Vista
> already on it, then added files from my old computer and Money 2005. But
> I
> had been using it successfully on this computer with Vista for over a
> month
> with no problems.


Can't say for sure. But I haven't seen what you've been doing at every step.
Sometimes it's easier to get these things sorted out and not spend a lot of
time looking back.


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Old 06-29-2008, 11:07 PM
Scarlett
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OK, I took both of the .mny files and "sent to" Documents. I was able to
open them both there and make some changes which were saved. But I don't
want to guarantee the problem is solved because I've thought it was solved
before until I opened it up the next day. So will report back to you after I
try to open it tomorrow and see what happens. I will re-enter the data
rather than using restore and risking some of the old problems/settings
creeping back in.

I'm guessing I should also now delete the .mny folders that are in Program
Files? I was a little nervous about doing that, but I guess it should be OK
since they're both working out of the Documents folder. When I click on File
in Money, it shows 4 files - 2 in Documents and 2 in Program Files. (more
comments below)

Thanks again for your help. I'm trying to figure out why if I haven't made
- quote -

> > any changes, this would start happening all of a sudden!
> Didn't you upgrade to Vista? Alternately is the "restore" scenario posited
> above.


Yes, but I downloaded the program directly onto my computer that had Vista
already on it, then added files from my old computer and Money 2005. But I
had been using it successfully on this computer with Vista for over a month
with no problems.
- quote -

> Post back to let us know if this gets your issue sorted out.
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Old 06-28-2008, 10:33 PM
Dick Watson
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See comments below.

"Scarlett" wrote:

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> This is what was in the Recent Files:
> "C:\Users\Julie\Documents\Family Money Backup.mbf"and also one with a
> similar name for my business file. These were both 2500 - 3500 KB in size.


This is a good thing. But it doesn't solve your problem. If you "open" these
files, it will offer to restore them to where they wer backed up from. If
they were backed up from the files you mention next, Restore will "restore"
them but this will not work for reasons soon to be discussed. You should
never open or double click on these unless you NEED to revert to your last
saved backup. I suggest you delete these items from your Recent Items list by
r-clicking on them in the Recent Items list and selecting delete. This will
just deletethe shortcut in Recent Items--it won't delete the files the
shortcut points to.

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> Then, in the Program Files folder, there is one called "Family Money.mny"
> and another with my business. This file is very large 20,732 KB (12,288 KB
> for the business file)


This is the exact bad thing we've been discussing. These files are your data
files and MUST be moved to Documents or some place like it for your changes
to "stick". The problem here is that Vista will assume that you really
shouldn't be changing stuff in these folders. It will humor you and let you
think you are doing it, then it puts things back the way they were after you
are done. Move these files to Documents... Once you've moved them, you can
open them in Money by double-clicking on them in their new location.

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> Thanks again for your help. I'm trying to figure out why if I haven't made
> any changes, this would start happening all of a sudden!


Didn't you upgrade to Vista? Alternately is the "restore" scenario posited
above.

Post back to let us know if this gets your issue sorted out.
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Old 06-28-2008, 05:18 PM
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This is what was in the Recent Files:

"C:\Users\Julie\Documents\Family Money Backup.mbf"and also one with a
similar name for my business file. These were both 2500 - 3500 KB in size.

Then, in the Program Files folder, there is one called "Family Money.mny"
and another with my business. This file is very large 20,732 KB (12,288 KB
for the business file)

Thanks again for your help. I'm trying to figure out why if I haven't made
any changes, this would start happening all of a sudden!

"Dick Watson" wrote:

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> You are calling the .MNY files "backup" files? If so, that's what you need
> to make sure is in your Documents folder. Those are the data files. (Kinda
> like Word or Notepad or Excel or similar, Money stores your data in a
> "document" file. For Money, these are .MNY extension files as in
> "MyMoneyDataFile.MNY" or similar.) Money backup files--made with File|Backup
> or the Tools|Settings|Backup Settings--are .MBF files.
> So, for the files in Recent Items, if you r-click on them and select
> Properties from the menu that pops up, what are the complete entries in the
> "Target" text box? Can you paste those entries into your reply?
> Somehow we'll get to the bottom of this. I hope.
> "Scarlett" <Scarlett[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6E046600-A3E1-4328-A18E-352B7645AC6B[at]microsoft.com...
> > I confess to not being computer literate enough to know what a Data File
> > would look like. I checked in C drive, Program Files and found the Money
> > Program File. Is that what you mean? When I went to Recent Items, all
> > that
> > was in there that was Money related was the two backup files (the family
> > money and my business money file). Also in C drive, there was a
> > ProgramData
> > folder and in that was a Microsoft folder but it was empty. Or do I do
> > what
> > Cal Learner suggested and move the .mny file?
> > > Please excuse my illiteracy....and thanks so much for your help and

> > patience!

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Old 06-28-2008, 03:18 AM
Dick Watson
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You are calling the .MNY files "backup" files? If so, that's what you need
to make sure is in your Documents folder. Those are the data files. (Kinda
like Word or Notepad or Excel or similar, Money stores your data in a
"document" file. For Money, these are .MNY extension files as in
"MyMoneyDataFile.MNY" or similar.) Money backup files--made with File|Backup
or the Tools|Settings|Backup Settings--are .MBF files.

So, for the files in Recent Items, if you r-click on them and select
Properties from the menu that pops up, what are the complete entries in the
"Target" text box? Can you paste those entries into your reply?

Somehow we'll get to the bottom of this. I hope.

"Scarlett" <Scarlett[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6E046600-A3E1-4328-A18E-352B7645AC6B[at]microsoft.com...
- quote -

> I confess to not being computer literate enough to know what a Data File
> would look like. I checked in C drive, Program Files and found the Money
> Program File. Is that what you mean? When I went to Recent Items, all
> that
> was in there that was Money related was the two backup files (the family
> money and my business money file). Also in C drive, there was a
> ProgramData
> folder and in that was a Microsoft folder but it was empty. Or do I do
> what
> Cal Learner suggested and move the .mny file?
> Please excuse my illiteracy....and thanks so much for your help and
> patience!



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Old 06-28-2008, 02:13 AM
Scarlett
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I confess to not being computer literate enough to know what a Data File
would look like. I checked in C drive, Program Files and found the Money
Program File. Is that what you mean? When I went to Recent Items, all that
was in there that was Money related was the two backup files (the family
money and my business money file). Also in C drive, there was a ProgramData
folder and in that was a Microsoft folder but it was empty. Or do I do what
Cal Learner suggested and move the .mny file?

Please excuse my illiteracy....and thanks so much for your help and patience!

"Dick Watson" wrote:

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> You need the DATA FILE in that location. The backup there would be good. The
> DATA FILE there is essential.
> You need to figure out where the DATA FILE is located and move it to
> Documents or Desktop.
> If you look at r-click Properties of the Money data file in you Recent Items
> you should find out where it is now.
> "Scarlett" <Scarlett[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6030A855-18A7-4802-BF80-D10E6EF7156D[at]microsoft.com...
> > Last night, I went in and changed the backup location to the Documents
> > folder. I entered one change, exited, came back and the change was saved.
> > Hooray! Went back in and re-entered (for almost an hour) all the data
> > that
> > had not saved before. Exited - went back in and it was saved. hooray!
> > > Then, this afternoon, when I went in, all the changes were gone once again

> > (including the change to backup to the Documents folder.)
> > > Is the program changing to a pumpkin at midnight?
> > > I do have the backup from last night that has all my data, so can restore

> > it, but don't want to until I know this problem is fixed for good.
> > > Any other ideas?

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Old 06-27-2008, 02:59 AM
Dick Watson
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You need the DATA FILE in that location. The backup there would be good. The
DATA FILE there is essential.

You need to figure out where the DATA FILE is located and move it to
Documents or Desktop.

If you look at r-click Properties of the Money data file in you Recent Items
you should find out where it is now.

"Scarlett" <Scarlett[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6030A855-18A7-4802-BF80-D10E6EF7156D[at]microsoft.com...
- quote -

> Last night, I went in and changed the backup location to the Documents
> folder. I entered one change, exited, came back and the change was saved.
> Hooray! Went back in and re-entered (for almost an hour) all the data
> that
> had not saved before. Exited - went back in and it was saved. hooray!
> Then, this afternoon, when I went in, all the changes were gone once again
> (including the change to backup to the Documents folder.)
> Is the program changing to a pumpkin at midnight?
> I do have the backup from last night that has all my data, so can restore
> it, but don't want to until I know this problem is fixed for good.
> Any other ideas?



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Old 06-27-2008, 02:49 AM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, Scarlett wrote:

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> Last night, I went in and changed the backup location to the Documents
> folder. I entered one change, exited, came back and the change was saved.
> Hooray! Went back in and re-entered (for almost an hour) all the data that
> had not saved before. Exited - went back in and it was saved. hooray!


So assuming you are not 110% sure as Dick suspects, close Money.
Then move your *.mny file to your Documents folder, or copy it to
another name there. Open Money by double-clicking that file in the
Documents folder using Windows Explorer.




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> Then, this afternoon, when I went in, all the changes were gone once again
> (including the change to backup to the Documents folder.)
> Is the program changing to a pumpkin at midnight?
> I do have the backup from last night that has all my data, so can restore
> it, but don't want to until I know this problem is fixed for good.
> Any other ideas?
> "Dick Watson" wrote:
> > Make 110% certain that your data file is stored somewhere you can write to
> > like your Documents folder. Do NOT store your data file in Program
> > Files\Microsoft Money or similar.

>
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Old 06-27-2008, 01:35 AM
Scarlett
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Last night, I went in and changed the backup location to the Documents
folder. I entered one change, exited, came back and the change was saved.
Hooray! Went back in and re-entered (for almost an hour) all the data that
had not saved before. Exited - went back in and it was saved. hooray!

Then, this afternoon, when I went in, all the changes were gone once again
(including the change to backup to the Documents folder.)

Is the program changing to a pumpkin at midnight?

I do have the backup from last night that has all my data, so can restore
it, but don't want to until I know this problem is fixed for good.

Any other ideas?
"Dick Watson" wrote:

- quote -

> Make 110% certain that your data file is stored somewhere you can write to
> like your Documents folder. Do NOT store your data file in Program
> Files\Microsoft Money or similar.
> "Scarlett" <Scarlett[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7944B0F3-8E26-4E09-B1AB-8BB9E889A54A[at]microsoft.com...
> > I have used Money for years. I bought a new computer with Vista a couple
> > of
> > months ago and downloaded Money Plus Deluxe. I've been using it with no
> > problems. Now a couple of days ago, I entered some info and exitted. It
> > said it was saving my backup file. When I opened it again, the changes
> > were
> > not in there.
> > > I have 2 files on it, one for home and one for my business. I regularly

> > toggle between the two with no problem. This is really frustrating, I
> > have
> > entered some of the information 3 times now and it is still not saving it.
> > > I have never had a problem like this with Money. Any ideas?

 
Old 06-25-2008, 04:26 AM
Dick Watson
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Make 110% certain that your data file is stored somewhere you can write to
like your Documents folder. Do NOT store your data file in Program
Files\Microsoft Money or similar.

"Scarlett" <Scarlett[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7944B0F3-8E26-4E09-B1AB-8BB9E889A54A[at]microsoft.com...
- quote -

> I have used Money for years. I bought a new computer with Vista a couple
> of
> months ago and downloaded Money Plus Deluxe. I've been using it with no
> problems. Now a couple of days ago, I entered some info and exitted. It
> said it was saving my backup file. When I opened it again, the changes
> were
> not in there.
> I have 2 files on it, one for home and one for my business. I regularly
> toggle between the two with no problem. This is really frustrating, I
> have
> entered some of the information 3 times now and it is still not saving it.
> I have never had a problem like this with Money. Any ideas?



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Old 06-25-2008, 02:22 AM
Scarlett
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Default Money Plus not saving changes

I have used Money for years. I bought a new computer with Vista a couple of
months ago and downloaded Money Plus Deluxe. I've been using it with no
problems. Now a couple of days ago, I entered some info and exitted. It
said it was saving my backup file. When I opened it again, the changes were
not in there.

I have 2 files on it, one for home and one for my business. I regularly
toggle between the two with no problem. This is really frustrating, I have
entered some of the information 3 times now and it is still not saving it.

I have never had a problem like this with Money. Any ideas?
 

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