Thanks. Frank
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In microsoft.public.money, Frank wrote:

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To have a Passport (now called Live ID) is not the same as having it
on your Money file. TO access the portfolio on MSN.com (MSN Money),
you need that LiveID. For your Microsoft Money file, you do not need
the Passport/LiveID.

For certain access with Money 2007 and Money Plus, you need the
LiveID -- for direct OFX statements.

For Money 2002...2004, having that Passport is no longer supported.


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But I had, and still have, a Passport and have not changed it. Microsoft
requires it for other things such as my.msn.com. Are you saying the
requirement was removed from pre-2005?

Frank

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In microsoft.public.money, Frank wrote:

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Microsoft discontinued the Passport server that serviced Money 2004
and earlier. You don't have the problem that you would if you had a
Passport on your pre-2005 Money file.

See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894020



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How would you now I don't have a Passport?

Frank

"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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In microsoft.public.money, Frank wrote:

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You don't have a Passport on your file.

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I have Money2002 and it works correctly. I just ran it again to make sure it
updates and it did. I have WindowsXP Home SP3.

Frank

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In microsoft.public.money, Jim Rich <Jim
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It worked until then? I wonder if they had restarted the server for
a while to let people open the file and remove the Passport.

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Is there no choice to log in offline? If not, maybe you could get in
by setting IE to File-> WorkOffline. Then open Money.

If you want to try Money Plus, you would first want to convert your
file to Money 2005 with the method described in step 3..6.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913108/en-us
I understand that the title of the article does not match your
situation, but he method may work for you.


Then you would install the Money Plus Trial to see if that is what
you would want to go with. In each install, be careful to tell Money
to not uninstall the older version, if you want to keep Money 2002
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Hi guys. Until today i have not seen any announcements about Passport coming
to an end with MS Money 2002. Now i cannot even open my current file or my
backup (which i did religiously every time i closed money). Last date i
could access my file was 18th November 2008. Now when i try to open on or
off line i get "The password you entered is incorrect. Please try again".
Yet this is my Passport password and had to enter the same password to even
enter this message. Same issue if i try to restore my backup .

HELP - cant get to any of my money files. I cant get in to turn the
password off!

"Dick Watson" wrote:

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This is additional information for others who wish to eliminate their
Passport password. . To clear the Passport password for Archived Money
files, I had to do the following after I had cleared the password on the
present active Money file: Open the Archive file and attempt to sign on to
Passport. (If you go directly to Offline, that does not work.) It will say
the file does not exist. Only then click on Offline, then from File: Login
Lockbox, click on Disable Passport Features. Do this for each Archive file
individually. I am now clear.

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Thanks for the info.

Make a backup onto other media now.

Cal,
Your suggestion to go through Safe Mode did not work, but this did. To
clear my Passport password I opened Money 2002 with Passport instead of the
recommended "Offline". Then I went to File and Login Lockbox and was able to
"Disable Password Features". That cleared the system. Now when Money
opens Passport is not shown so it opens to Money directly. I can only hope
that everything works okay after 7/31.
Thank you for your assistance.

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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In microsoft.public.money, Jim wrote:

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I would try booting into Safe Mode (without networking). See if you
can login offline, do the File-> LoginLockbox in Money 2002 and
remove your Passport.

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Cal,
Thank you for the suggestion. However, that did not not work either.

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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I would try this:

In IE7 tick Tools-> WorkOffline or in IE6 tick File-> WorkOffline

Then in Money 2002 do the File-> LoginLockbox.

Scott, thank you for your comments. It was helpful.
There is a problem
I attempted to remove my passport from my 2002 according to the instructions
at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894020 which is the address to remove my
Passport (Windows Live ID credentials which it is now called), It says to
remove click on Work Offline, then on File menu to click on Password Manager.
Then it says to click on Disable this passport for use in Money There is no
Password Manager on my file menu. Instead, I tried going to Login Lockbox,
then Money Password, and clicked on Disable Password Features. That does
not work. I receive an error message "Passport has experienced an error.
Try again in a few moments." I assume that the Passport site no longer
exists.
Does anyone know how to actually remove it?

"Scott Tyler" wrote:

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Money 2003 and onward have explicit expiration dates for online services.

Although Money 2002 and earlier don't have explicit expiration dates, many
users can no longer update their accounts online.

When online services are set up, Money has to contact a MS server. The
servers for Money 2002 and earlier have been turned off for some time (at
least a year or two) If your bank changes its online services, if you try
to add a new financial institution, or if you set up a new file, you will
not be able to set up online services using Money 2002 or earlier.

It was Intuit that began this "sunsetting" policy with Quicken, and MS
"chased them down the sewer" with Money, as another user described it.

As such, I was forced to upgrade from Money 2004 to Money Plus last
September, even though I liked Money 2004 better.

Even if the loss of online services isn't reason enough for you to upgrade,
it's becoming increasingly difficult for users with older versions of Money
to upgrade to newer versions of Money, particularly if the older version of
Money is being run on a Windows 95/98/ME computer.

Although Money 2006-Plus have fixed some of the problems with Money 2005
(particularly when a new repair tool to delete Scheduled Bills and Deposits
was added (Money 2007?)), it's still based on the Money 2005 platform:
Things we took for granted like "Accounts > Balance an Account" (list of all
accounts with date last balanced) and "Work with Investments > Choose a
specific Investment" (list of all investments) are gone, as is the ability
to view Monthly Reports more than 12-24 months old. It's also now necessary
to use a command line entry to create a new Advanced Budget.

Based on my experience with Money 2002, it won't be a complete loss for you
to upgrade to Money Plus: Money 2002 downloaded Friday's investment quotes
for Saturday and Sunday (space taken by quotes is a big reason for Money's
file size)(this was fixed in Money 2003 or 2004) and it was possible for an
account in Money 2002 to become corrupted in such a way that it couldn't be
fixed with any of the repair tools. Upgrading to Money 2003 would have
fixed it, but I wasn't going to pay for a bugfix, so I exported my accounts,
printed my budgets and so-forth, and rebuilt my file from scratch.

If you do upgrade to Money Plus, expect to print your Bills and Deposits,
"File > Repair Money File > Remove All Bills Data", and then re-create your
scheduled bills. Apparently a lot of cruft related to Bills and Deposits
was accumulating in user's Money files, causing poor performance. This poor
performance became much worse for some users attempting to upgrade to Money
2005 or 2006. Although my performance didn't worsen upgrading from Money
2004 to Money Plus, performance improved significantly after "Nuking the
Bills" (as some users describe it) This is the best solution that's been
available so far. The only other solution in earlier versions of Money was
to export all accounts, print what couldn't be exported, and start over with
a clean file.

If you still have performance problems with Money Plus, you can try removing
all items from the Home page, and add them back one at a time. I had to
remove the Spending Tracker from my home page, as this was causing slowness
for many Money Plus users. I'm not sure if Money Plus SP1 fixed this or
not, but I haven't seen that particular complaint in a long time.

As the new version of Money tends to arrive in the July to October
timeframe, you may want to keep using Money 2002 until the new version
arrives.

If you do plan on installing a trial of Money Plus (or whatever comes next),
but later going back to Money 2002, you may want to do an image backup
(Norton Ghost or similar) of your current system: As the MS server that
provided updates to Money 2002 has been turned off, you can only reinstall
the base version of Money 2002 from the CD. I don't know what bugs were
fixed (MS didn't provide this information back then) but there were a couple
of updates for Money 2002 that were downloaded through the Money 2002
interface, which are no longer obtainable. As Money is one of the most
important pieces of software on many ppl's systems, I wouldn't count on
System Restore alone to protect an old Money installation.

--
Scott Tyler
agent_scotty-at-hotmail-dot-com

"Dick Watson" wrote:

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(Windows Live ID) sign in for Microsoft Money
2002 - 2004

When: July 31,2008

Effect: Older versions of Money (2002-4) will no longer support
adding Passport credentials to your Money data files.

For more information see the You cannot sign in to Money 2002, Money
2003, or Money 2004 with your Windows Live ID credentials Microsoft
Knowledge Base article. <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894020
Okay, when I remove my Money 2002 credentials does anyone know if I will
continue to be able to download financial data from my bank, investment firm
and credit card accounts after that? Should I install a new edition? I
hate to do that. I installed Money 2005 back then and it was a disaster, so
I reinstalled 2002. I love the 2002 operation.
Any comments or advice will be apreciated.
I knew this was coming someday, but I still am very concerned.

Bump! 31 days from now...

"Dick Watson" wrote:

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It becomes a time limited service and not software.

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