Try changing the sell transaction to "sell short" then delete the "add
shares" transaction. Lastly, change the "buy" transaction to "cover short".

I think this works pretty good, but you may want to check that the reports
give the correct results.

Let us know if this works.

"john" <john[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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In microsoft.public.money, Wayne Farmer wrote:

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Yes. However I could think of things that affect more people in ways
without a workaround as easy.

I think many of those with 2000 literal day trades per year would be
on trader status, which I would not expect Money to support anyway.

But it is still irritating or worse to the person who does same-day
round trips even occasionally. Like so many things, it would seem to
be an easy fix. I feel the programmers would love to fix it.

Yup. I see it sometimes for absolutely no apparent reason and don't even day
trade.

"Wayne Farmer" <usenet[at]endymionsystems.com> wrote in message
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On May 20, 11:14 pm, Cal Learner-- MVP <via_newsgr...[at]please.tnxwrote:
Agreed. Wouldn't you think it's about time? Searching this group for
"negative shares" shows that the problem has been around since 1998.

On May 20, 11:14*pm, Cal Learner-- MVP <via_newsgr...[at]please.tnxwrote:
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Agreed. Wouldn't you think it's about time? Searching this group for
"negative shares" shows that the problem has been around since 1998.

In microsoft.public.money, Wayne Farmer wrote:

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Clearly Money does not serve those daytraders so well in that
regard.

On May 20, 10:47*pm, Cal Learner-- MVP <via_newsgr...[at]please.tnxwrote:
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Thanks, Cal. That's still a painful solution for Day Traders who may
perform a dozen buys and sells of the same stock in one day; wouldn't
they need to manually enter all of the buys first?

In microsoft.public.money, Wayne Farmer wrote:

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If you already have the AddShares, change that to a Buy. Enter the
Commission, Total and Quantity in that or a similar order. Do not
enter the Price manually. Let Money compute that.

For the future, the workaround is to enter the Buy manually first
and match that on the download.

In microsoft.public.money, john wrote:

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First enter the Buy manually. During download, match the Buy to the
then-existing transaction.

On May 20, 5:24*pm, john <j...[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
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John, thanks for asking this question; I have exactly the same problem
when asking Money Plus to update its investment account from my
investment broker, if that day I'd bought and sold shares of some
stock, and I didn't already have shares of that stock. During the
update, Money Plus informs me that it's imported a Sell transation
(before it imports the corresponding Buy transaction) that is trying
to sell shares that aren't there, and so asks me for permission to add
a extra "Add Shares" transaction to create them. If I say yes, then
the update completes, but then the "Add Shares" transactions give me
too many shares. If I try to delete the "Add Shares" transactions,
Money Plus won't let me, telling me that the sell transaction would
make the running share balance negative at some point.

The only solution I've found is to change the date on the sell
transactions to be the NEXT DAY, so that they happen in time after the
buys. I can then delete the "Add Shares" transactions to get the
right result.

Here's a crazy idea that might work: Before doing the import,
manually create an "Add Shares" transaction that adds, say, 1,000,000
shares of the stock at $0 price. Do the import, and then add a
corresponding "Remove Shares" transaction to remove them.

A better solution might be for transaction updates to include time as
well as date, so that they download in order, and negative share
balances don't occur.

But I think that would be too difficult a change. Instead, Microsoft
Money needs to be changed to not flag a negative share balance as an
error.

=?Utf-8?B?am9obg==?= <john[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
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Best practice is to first enter the transactions manually, later do an
optional download from the Financial Institution (FI), and finally match
the downloaded transactions with the manually-entered data.

My observation is that automatic download of transactions is an add-on
convenience. I've never had a problem when I enter things myself and
match them later with downloaded data. I suspect (personal opinion
alert) that the Money designers think the same way, since in the
beginning there _was_ no automatic download. There's a good possibility
that they don't even have control of the order in which transactions are
processed. I bet it's up to the FI how data is put into the data file.

I only download data as a sanity check to make sure the FI and I agree.
--
Steve B.
New Life Home Improvement

Purchased shares of a stock in the morning and then sold them in the
afternoon for a tidy profit. That evening I downloaded the transactions from
my broker. Money processed the sell transaction first. Because there was
not any shares presently in the protfolio, money added the shares and the
sell transaction. Next it processed the buy transaction. (you have no
control over how the transactions are processed) If you then review the
protfolio manager you will show the stock still having the number of shares
purchased. 1) the original shares from the purchase 2) the shares added by
money when processing the sell transaction ) less the the shares for selling
the stock. If you go into the transactions and try to delete the add shares
transactions the system gives anerror message that you must first delete the
sell transactions. If you do this you will have a cost for the stock but no
sell value. Therefore I entered a new transaction to remove shares, This
makes the current protfolio correct when hiding closed transactions. If you
then look at the stock in the closed portfolio it will show the incorrect
profit/loss. It shows the proceeds as the profit as if your cost bases is
zero.

How do you correctly handle stocks bought and sold in the same day?

The only way I know is to download transactions from your broker right after
you make the purchase. Then download again after you make the sell. This
routine is not alway possible as you may not have access to money on your
computer until the evening.

Any help will be appreciated.
--
john