Correction: at the start of my last message I meant to say I removed money
and then re-installed it.
"Greg" <starvoyager5[at]comcast.net> wrote in message
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VICTORY! I think I finally did it.I'm not 100% sure exactly why but, I have
an idea. I removed money from the notebook as stated earlier and 2 items
were put on my notebook desktop. "Money" and "My Money" sometime in the
recent past I don't know what I did but I may have deleted the "Money" icon
cause I didn't think I needed it. The Money icon is not a shortcut and the
My Money icon is a shortcut. This has to have something to do with what's
been going on.

I also had a time difference on the machines of about 1 or 2 minutes.(don't
know if that is significant). So I open Money on the notebook then do a fake
entry for $10 then I close it and open second copy clear the log and then
run the profile which is set to run manually. Second copy is set to sync
files. I remove the USB HD and plug it into the desktop. Then I run second
copy on the vista desktop manually. Then I open the my money file and it
reflects the changes I just made on the notebook. Then I delete the fake
entry for $10 and close money. Then again run second copy. I remove the USB
HD plug it back into the XP notebook. Again I run second copy then close I
then open My Money and "alas" the fake transaction is gone. "Staggers the
imagination".

Thanks to all for the input and enduring with me.

Greg

So I've been using "Second Copy" to to keep up with and syncing my files so
I would always have the most recent versions of all of them on both
machines.
And it seems to be working. I just had the problem with MS Money.
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"Steve" <respond[at]online.newsgroup> wrote in message
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On the vista machine I have C:\users\greg\documents which is where the money
file has been living, and C:\users\greg bean\documents which only has
folders no files. On the XP machine I have C:\documents and setting\Greg
Bean\My documents where that money file has been living cant find any other
money file.

Here is an interesting point: I uninstalled money from the XP notebook and
re-installed it. when I was done, in C:\documents and settings\Greg Bean\My
documents I had 2 files (which is how it was setup the first time I
installed it, Im almost sure of this) I have msmoney.exe that shows as an
application, I have my money.mny which shows as a microsoft money file.
Somehow I think this is significant.

Shall I go on to day 4?

Thanks to all for hanging in there on my frustration.

Greg

"Ken" <PleaseReply[at]NewsGroup.Thanks> wrote in message
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I remaned the file and tried to open and it did not open the message says a
dll file is missing. I did this on both machines with same result.

Greg

"Greg" <starvoyager5[at]comcast.net> wrote in
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Use the Windows Search utility to find _all_ .mny files:

- Type <Windows> +F. The "Search Results" window opens.
- Click "All files and folders" in the left pane. A set of fields
appears.
- In the "All or part of the file name:" field, enter "*.mny" (without
quotes).
- In the "Look in:" drop-down box, choose "My Computer". This will
force
it to search _everything_.
- Click "When was it modified?" and choose "Don't remember".
- Click "What size is it?" and choose "Don't remember".
- Click "More advanced options" and check "Search system folders",
"Search hidden files and folders", "Search subfolders", and "Search tape
backup" (just in case). Uncheck "Case sensitive".
- Click the Search button.

Let it run. You will find every Money data file on your whole PC. For
more information, click "View" on the menu bar, then "Choose
details...". In the dialog box, check "Date Created", "Date Accessed",
"Attributes", and "Owner", and "Status". Click the OK button.

Carefully note the "In Folder" column of the search results. Some
folders show up twice. For example, "\Documents" is the same as "\Users
\Greg\Documents".

I bet find you have multiple .mny files with the same name in
confusingly similar locations.
--
Steve B.
New Life Home Improvement

Re: opened the sample file in test folder and it "DID" reflect the changes.

That's good.....

Re: What does this indicate?

It indicates that when each computer opens the same money data file, in this
case (sample.mny), they each see the same thing.

Hi Greg,

In my mind you just proved the file you have been trying to copy from XP to
Vista is not the same file one of your computers is opening.

There is several ways to trouble shoot this.

Assuming you have both computers opening their existing .mny files. In
other words, not opening sample.mny.

Perhaps, on XP rename the file from 'existing name'.mny to 'OLDexisting
name'.mny.

To rename a file, right click it, choose Rename.

If this is the file money has been opening, money will not be able to find
it, should give you a message it couldn't find the file.

If it does open, then it is opening a different file then the one you
renamed.

Do the same procedure on Vista.

Did you find the problem?

Ken


"Greg" <starvoyager5[at]comcast.net> wrote in message
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| OK Ken, I did the procedure you gave me. On the last trip back to Vista
| machine I opened money from the desktop and it opened my regular money
file
| not the sample file. then I clicked open on money and opened the sample
file
| in test folder and it "DID" reflect the changes. So... you are on to
| something but Im not sure what. What does this indicate? again let me add
| that the file Iv'e been trying to copy from XP is C:\documents and
| settings\Greg\My documents which is the file Ive been using for months.
And
| Iv'e been pasting it to Vista in C:\Users\Greg\Documents which is where my
| money file has been residing there.
| Shall I continue into day 3 of this dilemma?
|
| I'll have to think on this for a while.
|
| Thanks man!
|
| Greg
| "Ken" <PleaseReply[at]NewsGroup.Thanks> wrote in message
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| > Hi Greg,
| | > I use Money version 2001 on both computers.
| | > Home desktop computer is WindowsMe, laptop is Windows XP.
| | > I work directly from my money file on USB device
| | > In other words, when USB is plugged into desktop computer and I click on
| > desktop Microsoft Money icon, it opens the money file on USB device.
| | > When on the road with my laptop, I plug the same USB device into it.
When
| > I
| > click on it's desktop Microsoft Money icon it opens the money file on
USB
| > device.
| | > I have never noticed, in all these years, a difference in the USB money
| > file
| > data displayed between these computers.
| | > I know some will say you shouldn't work directly from USB device,
perhaps
| > it
| > is a little slower to load, but it works for me.
| | > Also on both computers I have the settings set so a backup is made to
the
| > hard drive when Money is closed.
| | > Here is my suggestion........ lets work with Moneys Sample file
| > (sample.mny)
| | > This should help you confirm both computers are opening the same money
| > file.
| | > Create a folder on your USB device, name it Test.
| | > On your XP, find and copy sample.mny into USB Test folder.
| | > Open Money from desktop icon.
| | > On it's file menu choose Open.
| | > In displayed Open dialog window, browse to and select USB device, Test
| > folder, then select sample.mny, click Open.
| | > Assuming the file opened, observe what you see in checking account,
close
| > Money.
| | > Take the USB device to your Vista.
| | > Open Money on Vista using desktop icon.
| | > On it's file menu choose Open.
| | > In displayed Open dialog window, browse to and select USB device, Test
| > folder, then select sample.mny, click Open.
| | > Does the same info display as you observed on XP?
| | > If so, make two small entries in the checking account, one with today's
| > date, the other with earlier date.
| | > Close Money.
| | > Take USB device back to XP.
| | > Open Money from desktop icon.
| | > Does sample file display and does it have both changes you made to
| > checking
| > account?.
| | > If so, make a couple more small changes to checking account, close
money.
| | > Take USB device to Vista.
| | > Open from desktop icon.
| | > Does sample file display with those changes you made to checking
account?
| | > Hope this helps with your trouble shooting.
| > Ken
| | > "Greg" <starvoyager5[at]comcast.net> wrote in message
| > news:OeKdnZ6oNZQGKYHVnZ2dnUVZ_tajnZ2d[at]comcast.com...
| | > | Ok, I have a desktop with Vista and laptop with XP home. I use the
| > notebook
| > | when Im away at work and the Vista desktop when Im home. When I got
home
| > I
| > | wanted my money file from the notebook to be transfered to the desktop
| > | but... when I copy the file from the notebook to my external USB HD
and
| > then
| > | paste it to the desktop to replace the existing one the file does not
| > | reflect changes made on the file version on the notebook. When I copy
| > the
| > | file from the notebook to the USB HD and then open it it shows one
| > balance.
| > | but when I then paste that file to the desktop it shows a different
| > balance
| > | that is not up to date. I am flabbergassted. So it seems that the file
| > is
| > | specific to whatever machine it is opened on.
| > |
| > | What the hell? Does anyone know why? The only thing I can think of is
| > that
| > | the money file is listed as an application like a program file. Ideas
| > | anyone?
| > |
| > | Thanks in advance to any help given. I have Money 2007. The notebook
has
| > XP
| > | home and the desktop has Visat premium.
| > |
| > | Greg
| > |
| |

OK Ken, I did the procedure you gave me. On the last trip back to Vista
machine I opened money from the desktop and it opened my regular money file
not the sample file. then I clicked open on money and opened the sample file
in test folder and it "DID" reflect the changes. So... you are on to
something but Im not sure what. What does this indicate? again let me add
that the file Iv'e been trying to copy from XP is C:\documents and
settings\Greg\My documents which is the file Ive been using for months. And
Iv'e been pasting it to Vista in C:\Users\Greg\Documents which is where my
money file has been residing there.
Shall I continue into day 3 of this dilemma?

I'll have to think on this for a while.

Thanks man!

Greg
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Hi Greg,

I use Money version 2001 on both computers.

Home desktop computer is WindowsMe, laptop is Windows XP.

I work directly from my money file on USB device

In other words, when USB is plugged into desktop computer and I click on
desktop Microsoft Money icon, it opens the money file on USB device.

When on the road with my laptop, I plug the same USB device into it. When I
click on it's desktop Microsoft Money icon it opens the money file on USB
device.

I have never noticed, in all these years, a difference in the USB money file
data displayed between these computers.

I know some will say you shouldn't work directly from USB device, perhaps it
is a little slower to load, but it works for me.

Also on both computers I have the settings set so a backup is made to the
hard drive when Money is closed.

Here is my suggestion........ lets work with Moneys Sample file (sample.mny)

This should help you confirm both computers are opening the same money file.

Create a folder on your USB device, name it Test.

On your XP, find and copy sample.mny into USB Test folder.

Open Money from desktop icon.

On it's file menu choose Open.

In displayed Open dialog window, browse to and select USB device, Test
folder, then select sample.mny, click Open.

Assuming the file opened, observe what you see in checking account, close
Money.

Take the USB device to your Vista.

Open Money on Vista using desktop icon.

On it's file menu choose Open.

In displayed Open dialog window, browse to and select USB device, Test
folder, then select sample.mny, click Open.

Does the same info display as you observed on XP?

If so, make two small entries in the checking account, one with today's
date, the other with earlier date.

Close Money.

Take USB device back to XP.

Open Money from desktop icon.

Does sample file display and does it have both changes you made to checking
account?.

If so, make a couple more small changes to checking account, close money.

Take USB device to Vista.

Open from desktop icon.

Does sample file display with those changes you made to checking account?

Hope this helps with your trouble shooting.
Ken

"Greg" <starvoyager5[at]comcast.net> wrote in message
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| Ok, I have a desktop with Vista and laptop with XP home. I use the
notebook
| when Im away at work and the Vista desktop when Im home. When I got home I
| wanted my money file from the notebook to be transfered to the desktop
| but... when I copy the file from the notebook to my external USB HD and
then
| paste it to the desktop to replace the existing one the file does not
| reflect changes made on the file version on the notebook. When I copy the
| file from the notebook to the USB HD and then open it it shows one
balance.
| but when I then paste that file to the desktop it shows a different
balance
| that is not up to date. I am flabbergassted. So it seems that the file is
| specific to whatever machine it is opened on.
|
| What the hell? Does anyone know why? The only thing I can think of is that
| the money file is listed as an application like a program file. Ideas
| anyone?
|
| Thanks in advance to any help given. I have Money 2007. The notebook has
XP
| home and the desktop has Visat premium.
|
| Greg
|

Thats ok I like hearing about stuff that Im ignorant of anyway. And I know
Im getting good advice. Oh Hell! I forget to check out the last advice, I
got busy.
I'll get back to ya'll

Greg
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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In microsoft.public.money, Greg wrote:

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Ignore that topic regarding Money. I only brought that up in that I
think of the registry-driven vs Steve's reminiscing on the .ini file
programming paradigm -- not relevant to your problem. You are
getting good advice on your problem.

All right, I'll check the date formats again. And I had a shortcut to my
money file called Gregs Money but that was a shortcut.
I try your latest post and see what happens and get back to ya. Although I
don't think there will be a difference cause I've checked and re-checked the
files on both machines as to the names and locale's.
And as for the explanation about Structured programming, thanks maybe I can
impress my friends even though I have no idea what the hell it means.

Greg
"Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
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Actually I was more concerned with the "day/month" versus "month/day" format
rather than the year (My mistake for leaving off a Y in the example).

Oh, and did you rename the file as Steve suggested? For example to "Gregs
Money.mny"
That would remove any "same file name but different file" issues
Be sure to double check that it is the same file by trying it on both
machines. (Look in Money's title bar afer you start Money, it should
indicate the file name. e.g. "Gregs Money - Microsoft Money")

-Mark

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"Greg" <starvoyager5[at]comcast.net> wrote in
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"Structured Programming" mostly means don't use GOTO statements. Every
chunk (and subchunk) of code should have one entrance at the top and one
exit at the bottom. It's an attempt to make computer code "proveable",
kind of like a mathematical proof.

In the old style of programming, the code went along, step by step in an
orderly fashion, until something unusual happened. Then a GOTO statement
jumped you out to go handle the problem. Unfortunately, the target piece
of code often had a GOTO to another piece, and that piece had another
GOTO. Pretty soon, you can't figure out where you were. Often there was a
GOTO right back to where you started, and you were stuck in a loop. This
is lovingly known as "spaghetti code". Lazy programmers love GOTOs. It's
easier to stick one in than to completely rewrite the section that has a
problem.
--
Steve B.
New Life Home Improvement

Cal Learner-- MVP <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in
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Wow -- a blast from the past!

Structured programming was just coming into vogue when I was doing my
graduate work in computer science. Then I implemented a structured
programming methodology using FORTRAN at my company a few years later.
That was like pulling teeth.

Thanks for the memories.
--
Steve B.
New Life Home Improvement

The dates are correct and set to 4 digit years. And the files are stored in
XP my documents and Vista documents.

Greg
"Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
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Some additional thoughts/suggestions:

You mentioned that you checked the time zone on your computers.
But I don't see that you explicitly said that you confirmed that the dates
were correct (i.e. today)
Also confirm Windows Regional Settings. It may be something unexpected like
one of the machines is set to DD/MM/YYY format instead of MM/DD/YYYY

Also, (I think this may have already been mentioned), since you are using
Vista, make sure that you are copying your .MNY file into a fully accessible
location (i.e. your "Documents" folder), since Vista has much stricker
access control over what it considers "Program Files"

-Mark



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I have never heard the term "structured programing" but Im just a user, not
a developer.
About this MS Money file dilemma, I was thinking maybe I could try loading
the program on my brothers machine that has XP.
Then try to copy the money file to there and see what happens. Maybe its a
Vista issue. His machine has MS Money 2003 I have 2007 premium on my
notebook and desktop.

I paid all my bills yesterday. So I entered all the data on the desktop. I
then had to print out a register sheet and re-enter the same data again in
the laptop.
Im glad all this techno stuff is making my life simple.

Hope you are all having a good day.

Greg
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In microsoft.public.money, Steve wrote:

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Sigh... when was the last time you heard the term "structured
programming"? :-|

OK Steve, That was a good point to try and I hadn't thought of it. but....
both options are dotted. Show all dates and show all transactions on both
machines.
Perhaps my computer should be profiled on Unsolved Computer Mysteries.
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"Greg" <starvoyager5[at]comcast.net> wrote in
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At the upper left corner of the screen where you view your account, you'll
find a label "View:" with a box next to it. Click the drop-down arrow on
the box and make sure you have a dot next to "All Dates" and "All
Transactions".

Most settings are stored in the data file, but you never know what some
developer decided to store in the registry. Oh, for the days when every
single option was stored in an INI file....
--
Steve B.
New Life Home Improvement