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| Thanks so much, I have been battling with this issue for months on how to get this to show up in the correct areas. I guess I was trying to make it to complicated. -- ct "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote: - quote - > In microsoft.public.money, Ron Boyd wrote: > > I asked this question within the "Income from Tax-Deferred Retirement > > Account" thread over a month ago but received only silence. So let me try it > > a a stand-alone question: > > > What is the purpose of the "Retirement Income: IRA Distributions" category > > and how is it used? > You could use that to enter a deposit transaction into your checking > account for the amount of the distribution. You would need to also > add a Payment transaction from your IRA. > It would be nice if Money were to make a transfer from IRA to a > non-retirement account to be the equivalent so that the income tax > estimator would pay attention, but it doesn't. |
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| It's important to remember that some canned categories do more than merely group income or expenses. The Retirement Income: IRA Distributions category, for instance, is configured so that data will be properly exported to your tax software for your 1099R reporting. Additional info: http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=189 "Ron Boyd" <ronboyd[at]qwest.net> wrote in message news:2BA1182C-ADD2-4E5D-9A64-9B303511E7C8[at]microsoft.com... - quote - > I asked this question within the "Income from Tax-Deferred Retirement > Account" thread over a month ago but received only silence. So let me > try it a a stand-alone question: > What is the purpose of the "Retirement Income: IRA Distributions" > category and how is it used? |
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| I just use Miscellaneous: Adjustment to get rid of the proceeds in the Contributions account, then use Paycheck with the Retirement Income: IRA Distributions to put the money to the account where I deposit the check. It's messy but it works for the income accounting. You need to ignore Transfers when you do Monthly Reports. "Ron Boyd" wrote: - quote - > Cal, > I am unsure how that would work. I make a deposit of funds from nowhere and > then make a payment to nowhere in a different account to balance things out? > (I am beginning suspect the RI:ID category is a "Red Herring" that is > designed purely and simply to further confuse the user.) > What am I missing? > "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message > news:j4qsu3put666majv0ku4i9kpl90f4dedr4[at]4ax.com... > > In microsoft.public.money, Ron Boyd wrote: > > > > I asked this question within the "Income from Tax-Deferred Retirement > > > Account" thread over a month ago but received only silence. So let me try > > > it > > > a a stand-alone question: > > > > > What is the purpose of the "Retirement Income: IRA Distributions" category > > > and how is it used? > > > You could use that to enter a deposit transaction into your checking > > account for the amount of the distribution. You would need to also > > add a Payment transaction from your IRA. > > > It would be nice if Money were to make a transfer from IRA to a > > non-retirement account to be the equivalent so that the income tax > > estimator would pay attention, but it doesn't. |
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| In microsoft.public.money, Ron Boyd wrote: - quote - > Cal,
That's what I was suggesting.> I am unsure how that would work. I make a deposit of funds from nowhere and > then make a payment to nowhere in a different account to balance things out? - quote - > (I am beginning suspect the RI:ID category is a "Red Herring" that is
I am sure that was not the purpose. If you don't like a category,> designed purely and simply to further confuse the user.) either Delete or ignore it. - quote - > What am I missing?
You seem to have things under control.- quote - > "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message > news:j4qsu3put666majv0ku4i9kpl90f4dedr4[at]4ax.com... > > In microsoft.public.money, Ron Boyd wrote: > > > > I asked this question within the "Income from Tax-Deferred Retirement > > > Account" thread over a month ago but received only silence. So let me try > > > it > > > a a stand-alone question: > > > > > What is the purpose of the "Retirement Income: IRA Distributions" category > > > and how is it used? > > > You could use that to enter a deposit transaction into your checking > > account for the amount of the distribution. You would need to also > > add a Payment transaction from your IRA. > > > It would be nice if Money were to make a transfer from IRA to a > > non-retirement account to be the equivalent so that the income tax > > estimator would pay attention, but it doesn't. |
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| Cal, I am unsure how that would work. I make a deposit of funds from nowhere and then make a payment to nowhere in a different account to balance things out? (I am beginning suspect the RI:ID category is a "Red Herring" that is designed purely and simply to further confuse the user.) What am I missing? "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message news:j4qsu3put666majv0ku4i9kpl90f4dedr4[at]4ax.com... - quote - > In microsoft.public.money, Ron Boyd wrote: > > I asked this question within the "Income from Tax-Deferred Retirement > > Account" thread over a month ago but received only silence. So let me try > > it > > a a stand-alone question: > > > What is the purpose of the "Retirement Income: IRA Distributions" category > > and how is it used? > You could use that to enter a deposit transaction into your checking > account for the amount of the distribution. You would need to also > add a Payment transaction from your IRA. > It would be nice if Money were to make a transfer from IRA to a > non-retirement account to be the equivalent so that the income tax > estimator would pay attention, but it doesn't. |
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| Ron, your reworded query is beyond my knowledge of how Money handles this type of transaction. Ken "Ron Boyd" <ronboyd[at]qwest.net> wrote in message news:F637C788-48E0-4B45-813B-024DB1E5A5D0[at]microsoft.com... | Yes, but... that wasn't my question. You are correct, however. I should have | set up the question better. | | I have an IRA account. I wish to withdraw funds (take a distribution). My | solution (based upon the "Income from Tax-Deferred Retirement | Account" thread) is to: | | 1. Transfer the funds from the IRA Account to the associated (Contribution) | Account. | 2. Using the "Paycheck" function, transfer the funds from the (Contribution) | account to a Checking Account. | | The problem with this is, of course, that it does not register as "Income" | and thus does not play a role in, for instance, "Income Tax estimating" as | well as other irritations involved in a "non-Income" Income transaction. | | If I use the "Retirement Income: IRA Distributions" category under "Wages" | in the Paycheck function, the funds are correctly assigned to Income. | However, I find no way to (in that simple transaction) remove the funds from | the IRA Account thus the Account Balance is not adjusted properly. | | Just to cover all bases: I understand that Money (for whatever reason) does | not consider funds transfered from a tax-deferred account as income. | Nevertheless, the IRS does and, as such, expects me to correctly calculate | the tax liability. I expect MS Money to help with that job and not make me | resort to a legal pad. | | So to rephrase my (2-part) question: | | What is the purpose of the "Retirement Income: IRA Distributions" category | and how does one use it in Microsoft Money? | | | "Ken" <PleaseReply[at]NewsGroup.Thanks> wrote in message | news:%23IwxwIakIHA.980[at]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... | > Perhaps you might want to acquire IRS publication 590. | | > When a person reaches age 70 and retired they should take required minimum | > distribution (RMD), else huge 50% or more penalty. | | > I would start with the publication. | | > Ken | | > "Ron Boyd" <ronboyd[at]qwest.net> wrote in message | > news:2BA1182C-ADD2-4E5D-9A64-9B303511E7C8[at]microsoft.com... | | > | I asked this question within the "Income from Tax-Deferred Retirement | > | Account" thread over a month ago but received only silence. So let me | > try | > it | > | a a stand-alone question: | > | | > | What is the purpose of the "Retirement Income: IRA Distributions" | > category | > | and how is it used? | > | | > | | | |
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| In microsoft.public.money, Ron Boyd wrote: - quote - > I asked this question within the "Income from Tax-Deferred Retirement
You could use that to enter a deposit transaction into your checking> Account" thread over a month ago but received only silence. So let me try it > a a stand-alone question: > What is the purpose of the "Retirement Income: IRA Distributions" category > and how is it used? account for the amount of the distribution. You would need to also add a Payment transaction from your IRA. It would be nice if Money were to make a transfer from IRA to a non-retirement account to be the equivalent so that the income tax estimator would pay attention, but it doesn't. |
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| Yes, but... that wasn't my question. You are correct, however. I should have set up the question better. I have an IRA account. I wish to withdraw funds (take a distribution). My solution (based upon the "Income from Tax-Deferred Retirement Account" thread) is to: 1. Transfer the funds from the IRA Account to the associated (Contribution) Account. 2. Using the "Paycheck" function, transfer the funds from the (Contribution) account to a Checking Account. The problem with this is, of course, that it does not register as "Income" and thus does not play a role in, for instance, "Income Tax estimating" as well as other irritations involved in a "non-Income" Income transaction. If I use the "Retirement Income: IRA Distributions" category under "Wages" in the Paycheck function, the funds are correctly assigned to Income. However, I find no way to (in that simple transaction) remove the funds from the IRA Account thus the Account Balance is not adjusted properly. Just to cover all bases: I understand that Money (for whatever reason) does not consider funds transfered from a tax-deferred account as income. Nevertheless, the IRS does and, as such, expects me to correctly calculate the tax liability. I expect MS Money to help with that job and not make me resort to a legal pad. So to rephrase my (2-part) question: What is the purpose of the "Retirement Income: IRA Distributions" category and how does one use it in Microsoft Money? "Ken" <PleaseReply[at]NewsGroup.Thanks> wrote in message news:%23IwxwIakIHA.980[at]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... - quote - > Perhaps you might want to acquire IRS publication 590. > When a person reaches age 70 and retired they should take required minimum > distribution (RMD), else huge 50% or more penalty. > I would start with the publication. > Ken > "Ron Boyd" <ronboyd[at]qwest.net> wrote in message > news:2BA1182C-ADD2-4E5D-9A64-9B303511E7C8[at]microsoft.com... > | I asked this question within the "Income from Tax-Deferred Retirement > | Account" thread over a month ago but received only silence. So let me > try > it > | a a stand-alone question: > | > | What is the purpose of the "Retirement Income: IRA Distributions" > category > | and how is it used? > | > | |
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| Perhaps you might want to acquire IRS publication 590. When a person reaches age 70 and retired they should take required minimum distribution (RMD), else huge 50% or more penalty. I would start with the publication. Ken "Ron Boyd" <ronboyd[at]qwest.net> wrote in message news:2BA1182C-ADD2-4E5D-9A64-9B303511E7C8[at]microsoft.com... | I asked this question within the "Income from Tax-Deferred Retirement | Account" thread over a month ago but received only silence. So let me try it | a a stand-alone question: | | What is the purpose of the "Retirement Income: IRA Distributions" category | and how is it used? | | |
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| I asked this question within the "Income from Tax-Deferred Retirement Account" thread over a month ago but received only silence. So let me try it a a stand-alone question: What is the purpose of the "Retirement Income: IRA Distributions" category and how is it used? |
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