Thee are some statements in this that make no sense like My
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If your file has been removed from the Hard Drive what have you been using
and what are you trying to open? You stated that you need to sign into a
live ID to create an account? Is this when you are creating a new file?
Basically it comes down to this if your file crashed and you have no backups
other than older .mbf files from prior to vista you will need to use one of
these. The file repair on the file will not change the fact that due to the
crash a password is now required. The reason someone may have told you that
you will need to pay to recover your money file is because there are some
THIRD Party companies which may be able to do so. And the charge would be
from them not Microsoft.


On 5/1/08 11:08 AM, in article ecjj1454l3mogr0nmhup65p987dabh3bs0[at]4ax.com,
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote:

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In microsoft.public.money, PWeeks wrote:

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Passive voice? Who told you that?

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What do you mean that you cannot create "a new account".

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That seems inconsistent with your other statements. You seem to be
saying that you cannot find your file, but when you try to open your
file it wants a password. But when you are in your file and try to
create a new account it wants a password ....


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Something doesn't seem right here.

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Hummm.... Now I have to PAY to get my files back, I am told. Here is my
similar problem:
I can't create a new account unless I sign into Live ID. Live ID does not
recognize either my internet connection nor my username and password. My
file has been removed from my hard drive and placed in part unknown. If I
want it back, I must PAY for support. Something doesn't seem right here and
there doesn't seem to be anyone that can help.


"Christopher Patrick" wrote:

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You failed to mention which version of Vista you are using, but if your
installation is either the Business or Ultimate edition, Volume Shadow
Copy Service may very well have made many copies of your Money file.

I have 14 copies on Ultimate, dating back nearly a year. They are
accessible by right-clicking on the Money file and selecting "Restore
previous versions".

For anyone upgrading to Vista, consider that this is but one of many
features that in my mind justify the expense of the higher-end editions.

Note to Dick and MVPs: Although this Vista feature does not apply
specifically to Money, for those users who desperately need an emergency
backup and have one of these Vista editions, it may be worth
noting in the respective FAQs.


"Christopher Patrick" <Christopher Patrick[at]discussions.microsoft.comwrote in message
news:37C75DF8-EA0F-4ACC-B8D8-F015FBD4B56C[at]microsoft.com...
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In microsoft.public.money, Christopher Patrick wrote:

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I can't believe that Money indicated it was backing up but not doing
so. Make sure your search is complete. One way would be do this
command in a command window:

dir \*.mbf /s

If you right-click a command prompt shortcut and choose run as
administrator to start that command window, you could be a tad more
sure.


You should be scared. What if your hard drive failed? You should
review your backup procedures-- not just for Money.


In M+: Tools-> Settings-> BackupSettings
I suggest checking
x Automatically backup my Money file every time I close Money
Save in [a place on your hard drive ] It is best to Browse to
a location rather than typing the path.
x Ask me before backing up each time*
x Compress Backup Files
Keep only the _20_most recent backup files [adjust to taste]

x Perform scheduled backups every _28_ days
Save in [a USB flash drive location]
x Ask me before backing up each time*
x Compress Backup Files
Keep only the _2_most recent backup files [adjust to taste]

Then periodically, perhaps each month or three, copy your latest
backup (uniquely named by Money) to a CDR. Copy your browser
favorites/links and your email addresses, at least, also. You could
keep a copy in a safe deposit box, or strongly encrypt the data and
save a copy off-site.

I strongly suggest use of a USB Flash drive rather than floppies.
They are bigger, so you don't have to swap media to back up. Plus
they are much more reliable (but not failure-proof).

* The reason I have Money ask me, is that I don't want to back up
each time I exit. If I went into Money 5 times in a day, I would
not want to back up 5 times, nor would I want to delete 5 other
backup files. You will be given the choice to BackUpNow or to
Postpone.







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Sorry...I did find the Salv tool (I was doing repair from inside money,
opened with a new file). It always asks for a password. Any other
suggestions would be great. I've always been a fan of Money, but this issue,
with the backups no longer working is starting to sway me from Money...very
scary to lose so much data suddenly.

Talk soon
Chris


"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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Hi there-

Where is salve.exe located? I did try the repair feature, but it again asks
for a password to the file.

Unfortunately, Money has not backed up since the move to Vista. I've
searched, and the only backups are pre Vista.

Talk soon
Chris


"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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In microsoft.public.money, Christopher Patrick <Christopher
Patrick[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

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See if Salv.exe will make a repaired version of that *.mny file.
When Money is asking for a password, click
File-> RepairMoneyFile-> StandardFileRepair and do a level 2 repair.
See below.

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Have you been making the scheduled backup to a USB flash drive? That
backup may be new enough.

On the computer, search for *.mbf files. I expect them to be
possibly in your Documents folder. Vista does do some translation of
the XP folder locations if the username is the same.


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Hi all-

I know I have seen several users with a similar issue, but slight variances.
I have used MS Money since 1998. I recently upgraded to Vista, and MS Money
2007 (last few months), and all was well. Last night, MS Money suddenly
crashed.

I have always used a Windows Live ID / password to access my account. When
I attempted to start Money again, my Live ID and Password would not work. I
closed the program, restarted it, and now suddenly it asks for a password for
the file. Since I've always used Live ID, I never set a password for the
file.

In any case, when going to restore my file from my backup, I noticed that
when switching to Vista, the location of the backups that I used to use (In
C:\Document and Settings\username) no longer exists as a folder, so Money has
not been making backups either, un beknownst to myself.

I've seen posts about people on previous versions of Money that upgraded to
fix this, but I am on the most recent version, had a Windows Live ID, which I
can no longer use to access my file, and can't find and backups since the
upgrade to Vista. Does anyone know anything else I can try? I am a little
panicky since my entire financial history since college is within this file,
and I thought I was doing everything right.

Thank you for any help.

Talk soon
Chris