Cal Learner-- MVP <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote:

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Tried it on the laptop [that had 2005 on it] tonight-
Got a new error message;
"Microsoft Money has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are
sorry for the inconvenience"


But still no joy-- Just for giggles I'll try it again tomorrow on
the desktop.

Jim

In microsoft.public.money, Jim Elbrecht wrote:

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See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902466 and pretend it says 98
also.

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:50:04 -0000, "Bob Peel, MVP"
<bob_peel[at]kiandra.freeserve.co.uk.INVALID> wrote:

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Nothing is ever as easy as it looks like it might be.

Checked KB & all references to 98 are expunged. The closest
article about salvage is
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/182608/en-us & that didn't look like
it helped.

So- using 2005, I tried repairing the last full file that 2005 choked
on. Got error message 'this file cannot be repaired'

So I tried a fresh copy of the 98 file. After a time I got a
message saying the file had been repaired.

Then I tried opening/converting it. Same story as before. Start,
hang, ""Money has experienced an internal error and will have to
restart"

"money.exe -s" isn't valid for Money 98.

Tried to find a copy of "Super Salvage Utility" which a quote of an
old KB article I saw it references money98.

settled for a 2005 version of salv.exe which is all I could find on
the MS site. When I try to repair the Money98 file it says it is
"Invalid database"- and won't do anything.

I found another copy on a private site- dated 2002, and got the same
error.

Then I found
http://www.microsoft.com/Downloads/t...displayLang=en

It say's it is the Super Salvage Utility for Money 2000- but I only
see 2 levels of repair and no logfile-- and I get the same "invalid
database" error.

The super salvage utility apparently has 5 levels of repair and a log
file. Anybody keep a copy of that on their hard drive?

Thanks,
Jim

In microsoft.public.money, Jim Elbrecht wrote:

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You could try converting via Money 2004. See the WORKAROUND section
of http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913108

Try running a repair on the 98 file - I think you need to run salv.exe going
back that far! Then see if it will convert.

--
Regards
Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

For UK tips & fixes see
http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny.


I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.

"Jim Elbrecht" <elbrecht[at]email.com> wrote in message
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Jim Elbrecht <elbrecht[at]email.com> wrote:

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It's not the install- it's the file. I created a test file in
money98. Made two accounts, entered some transactions, and
transferred between the accounts.

This time I just double-clicked the file from the laptop. Money2005
did the usual- some progress bars- some freezing- some more progress
bars, then the same error message ""We're sorry. . . "Money has
experienced an internal error and will have to restart" ----

But this time it restarted using the converted Money98 file!

I wondered if it was because this file was still on the desktop, so I
copied my working file to the same folder and tried again. This
time when it loaded the small test file.

So I did a file/open and it tried to open the real file. It asked
for the password- then hung [no msg about converting] for several
minutes- then closed money with the ""Money has experienced an
internal error and will have to restart" message.

So- I'm making some progress-- but what could be in my 12yr old Money
98 file that Money 2005 doesn't like?

It is only 15K, so I don't think it could be too big.
I archived once back in 97 or so- then thought better of that plan.
I've never done any online banking with Money so don't think it is
looking for a lost connection.

Jim

If you are getting the runtime error, try looking at
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/240437/en-us

I'd also check your computer's system date since you mentioned that the mn6
file was dated in the future.
How Money's conversion works is that it first copies your original file and
gives it a new extension identifying the original version of Money (i.e.
mny6 in the case of a Money 98 file, or m14 in the case of a Money 2005
file), it then goes through the conversion process to update the file format
to the newer version of Money and leaves it with the original name with an
mny extension.

So the "copy" with the version extension will typically be timestamped newer
than the original file (until you open and use that original file after it's
been converted)

But the most important KB article is
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913108/en-us
Be sure to try the 2004 trial version "workaround"

-Mark


"Jim Elbrecht" <elbrecht[at]email.com> wrote in message
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"Bob Peel, MVP" <bob_peel[at]kiandra.freeserve.co.uk.INVALID> wrote:

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Sounded promising- but no joy. Same response. Money says it will
update that file- creates a m14 file, looks like it's converting,
hangs, then says "We're sorry. . . "Money has experienced an internal
error and will have to restart" .

Interestingly, the mn6 file was created 40 minutes in the future from
when the conversion was begun-- the m14 file was created 26minutes
earlier than I began the conversion. And the new mny file is smaller
than the m14 backup. [original 1k, mn6 24k, a

Are those timestamps random or is that a clue of some sort?

This morning I've gone through the other KB article, but it appears to
be mostly about trouble installing, and my install appears to be
complete. I've opened the sample file- imported a qif file from
money 98 and tried out the Money 2005 program.

The only thing it doesn't seem to be able to do is open money 98
files.

Jim

The mn6 file is the copy that Money takes of your mny file so that you can
revert.

The 24,004 kb file "may" be your new file. Try double clicking on it and
seeing if Money fires up.

--
Regards
Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

For UK tips & fixes see
http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny.


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"Jim Elbrecht" <elbrecht[at]email.com> wrote in message
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Cal Learner-- MVP <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote:

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Hehe-- I've been doing multiple backups since Money 3. And I've
probably spent less time entering the filename at every close for the
past 12 yrs than I have in the past couple weeks trying to get 2006,
then 2005 to open a single file.<g
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Went through that whole page. No joy.

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When I ask to open money98.mny it ask for a password- I enter the old
password and hit "Sign in". It hangs for several minutes, then I get
"Money has experienced an internal error and will have to
restart"

I thought I might be hitting the wrong button so then I tried entering
the password and then hitting the 'next' button. Then it hangs for
a maybe a minute and I get "Runtime error" R6025- pure virtual
function call.

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Correct.
Today's effort & note. Used a fresh copy of a 98 file in its own
folder; The money98.mny file was 15,245kb. Signed in no problem; got
the screen saying it would backup, then convert it; a couple progress
bars flashed by, then the hourglass came up [but it isn't frozen yet]
After a couple minutes I was no longer able to alt-tab back tot he
Money screen. A couple more minutes and I got the "We're sorry, but
Microsoft Money has experienced an internal error and will have to
restart" message.

Now in the folder that used to have just a 15,246kb .mny file- it now
has a 15,246 mn6 file-- and a 24,004 kb mny file- and a 1kb .lrd file.

Odd part is- the mn6 file is timestamped 40 minutes into the future-
the other 2 are stamped when the conversion was begun.

Jim
[I'll be back later after I finish the second kb page-- thanks again]

In microsoft.public.money, Jim Elbrecht wrote:

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I know of no security reasons, but maybe wasn't paying attention to
that. My favorite feature added starting in Money 2006 was the
multiple backups.

In the US, the new version is Money Plus (2008).



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http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913108 would be relevant to
converting to something newer than Money 2005 from Money 98.

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One of these could be of use, in that case.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/895866/

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/827814/
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I don't know of one. What is the error message you get?


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So just to recap, you have Money 98 *.mny and *.mbf files. You
cannot File-> Open either of them from your install of Money 2005,
and you get some error message that you will post.

Cal Learner-- MVP <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote:

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I'm open to suggestions. Looking over 2005 I don't see anything
that I'd like to do that I can't do in 98. On the surface it
looks like I'd just have to relearn how to do things I've been doing
for 12 years with Money.

Are there any security reasons I should even upgrade? None of the
bells and whistles jump out at me. I have no intention of letting
software do online banking for me.
-snip-

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Money 2005. Sorry about that.

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-snip-
Now that I've corrected myself-- I did that & got the same error
message. "Money has experienced an internal error and will have to
restart"

Is there any way to capture the contents of the error report?

Sorry for the typo- now that I've corrected myself, any thoughts?

Thanks
Jim

In microsoft.public.money, Jim Elbrecht wrote:

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I don't agree with your premise.

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Find the *.mn6 file that Money 2006 left as a backup of your Money
98 file. Copy that to *.mny, and open it with Money 2005. If you
went thru an intermediate conversion, there may be a different
backup extension to look for instead.

See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/178465

I bought a laptop that had Money 2006 on it. Ran into the troubles
of going from 98 to 2006. My desktop has Money 98 on it and it works
fine for me but I can't find the CD so I can't just put 98 on my
laptop. [though the more I think about it I might start looking for a
CD on Ebay]

Since I'm not interested in doing any online banking and it appears
the benefits of 2006 over 2005 are online security, I decided to just
buy 2005. I uninstalled 2006 and installed 2005 on the laptop.

I thought that was a simple solution, but I haven't been able to open
or restore a backup from my 2005 files.

I've tried a clean boot.

Is it possible that my uninstall wasn't complete and there is some
remnant of 2006 interfering with 2005?

Thanks,
Jim