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  #13  
Old 03-07-2008, 06:06 PM
Chris
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Having the same problem with Money 2007 on Vista. I have it automatically
backing up the file on each power down and compressing it. The strange thing
is that I can exit Money and verify the file is still there (even hours
later). I'll go to use it a day or few days later and it's been corrupted.

Makes me wonder if Money's update feature running in the backgound is at
fault, or some other file process (Defrag, etc). I've always been able to
restore it from the most recent backup, but I'm starting to think Quicken...

My file is 20MB large, maybe they have a size problem?

"KevinD" wrote:

- quote -

> My Money file has been deleted twice for no reason. I have the latest
> version of Money running on Windows Vista. This seems to have started
> just a week ago and has now happened twice. I have no idea where it's
> going or how its deleted so I was wondering if anyone else has experienced
> this?
> Luckily Vista keeps several "shadow" copies of the file so its easy to
> recover but I would like to know what's causing this.
> --
> Kevin

  #12  
Old 02-23-2008, 04:51 PM
dsherrill
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On Jan 27, 9:16*pm, dsherrill <dustinsherr...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
- quote -

> On Jan 20, 10:44 am, "Don" <don.forres...[at]btintenet.com> wrote:
> > Hi
> > I've experienced my money file being deleted over the last 3 months or so.
> > Everything is okay for say a couple of weeks, then it suddenly disappears
> > once or twice and is hen okay for another couple of weeks.
> > I use Ms money 2005 on Vista. Fortunately I make backups every day for the
> > previous 3 weeks, so can always restore. This disappearance does not occur
> > on any other file on *my system.
> > I can find nothing in Event Viewer to account for this.
> > Don
> > "Martin Beenham" <mar...[at]spam.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:XFotv8A72hhHFw90[at]spam.invalid...> In message <786BAE5B-5E4A-481B-9EA2-7CF612900...[at]microsoft.com> , KevinD
> > > <kjdi...[at]msn.com> writes
> > > > My Money file has been deleted twice for no reason. I have the latest
> > > > version of Money running on Windows Vista. This seems to have started
> > > > just a week ago and has now happened twice. I have no idea where it's
> > > > going or how its deleted so I was wondering if anyone else has
> > > > experienced this? Luckily Vista keeps several "shadow" copies of the file
> > > > so its easy to
> > > > recover but I would like to know what's causing this.
> > > Welcome to the club...
> > > There is a similar thread in microsoft.public.uk.money see "MM2005 file
> > > disappearing" I have cross-posted this to there as well.
> > > FWIW I am running XP with UK Money2004 (MS seem to have abandoned
> > > producing UK versions after 2005)
> > > This problem seems to have appeared in the last couple of weeks for no
> > > apparent reason to Money installations that have been stable for months if
> > > not years.
> > > Since it is not unique to a particular user/OS/version of Money *then I am
> > > assuming it is something MS have done until proven otherwise - much like
> > > the disablement of the passport link recently.
> > > Regards
> > > --
> > > Martin Beenham (martin at beenham dot me dot uk)

> This has been happening to me also in just the last few weeks I have
> had to restore to a backup 3 times. *My money file which is in My
> Documents folder is just gone. *I am using Microsoft XP Home Edition
> however and the *'My Documents' folder is not on my C drive. *I moved
> mine to a secondary hard drive. *I am probably reaching but I am
> wondering if this issue has anything to do with the "Access Your Data
> From Any Computer" feature. *I have noticed numerous times that the
> money program will not shut down completely if this feature is
> enabled. *I have just today decided to disable this feature. I am
> hoping this will make both issues go away.
> Dustin- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -


OK so I am replying to myself to say that it is still happening!
Arrrgh!
  #11  
Old 01-28-2008, 02:16 AM
dsherrill
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On Jan 20, 10:44 am, "Don" <don.forres...[at]btintenet.com> wrote:
- quote -

> Hi
> I've experienced my money file being deleted over the last 3 months or so.
> Everything is okay for say a couple of weeks, then it suddenly disappears
> once or twice and is hen okay for another couple of weeks.
> I use Ms money 2005 on Vista. Fortunately I make backups every day for the
> previous 3 weeks, so can always restore. This disappearance does not occur
> on any other file on my system.
> I can find nothing in Event Viewer to account for this.
> Don
> "Martin Beenham" <mar...[at]spam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:XFotv8A72hhHFw90[at]spam.invalid...> In message <786BAE5B-5E4A-481B-9EA2-7CF612900...[at]microsoft.com> , KevinD
> > <kjdi...[at]msn.com> writes
> > > My Money file has been deleted twice for no reason. I have the latest
> > > version of Money running on Windows Vista. This seems to have started
> > > just a week ago and has now happened twice. I have no idea where it's
> > > going or how its deleted so I was wondering if anyone else has
> > > experienced this? Luckily Vista keeps several "shadow" copies of the file
> > > so its easy to
> > > recover but I would like to know what's causing this.

> > Welcome to the club...
> > There is a similar thread in microsoft.public.uk.money see "MM2005 file
> > disappearing" I have cross-posted this to there as well.
> > FWIW I am running XP with UK Money2004 (MS seem to have abandoned
> > producing UK versions after 2005)
> > This problem seems to have appeared in the last couple of weeks for no
> > apparent reason to Money installations that have been stable for months if
> > not years.
> > Since it is not unique to a particular user/OS/version of Money then I am
> > assuming it is something MS have done until proven otherwise - much like
> > the disablement of the passport link recently.
> > Regards
> > --
> > Martin Beenham (martin at beenham dot me dot uk)


This has been happening to me also in just the last few weeks I have
had to restore to a backup 3 times. My money file which is in My
Documents folder is just gone. I am using Microsoft XP Home Edition
however and the 'My Documents' folder is not on my C drive. I moved
mine to a secondary hard drive. I am probably reaching but I am
wondering if this issue has anything to do with the "Access Your Data
From Any Computer" feature. I have noticed numerous times that the
money program will not shut down completely if this feature is
enabled. I have just today decided to disable this feature. I am
hoping this will make both issues go away.

Dustin
  #10  
Old 01-21-2008, 11:19 AM
Don
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It resides in the Documents folder.

Regards

Don

"Bob Peel, MVP" <bob_peel[at]kiandra.freeserve.co.uk.INVALID> wrote in message
news:eYXL2w4WIHA.4684[at]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> Real long shot but what is the directory that your .mny file resides in?
> --
> Regards
> Bob Peel,
> Microsoft MVP - Money
> For UK tips & fixes see
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny.
> I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.
> "Don" <don.forrester[at]btintenet.com> wrote in message
> news:328B1626-63A0-43E9-8017-1D20B9C96B2D[at]microsoft.com...
> > Hi
> > > I've experienced my money file being deleted over the last 3 months or

> > so. Everything is okay for say a couple of weeks, then it suddenly
> > disappears once or twice and is hen okay for another couple of weeks.
> > > I use Ms money 2005 on Vista. Fortunately I make backups every day for

> > the previous 3 weeks, so can always restore. This disappearance does not
> > occur on any other file on my system.
> > > I can find nothing in Event Viewer to account for this.
> > > Don
> > > > > > "Martin Beenham" <martin[at]spam.invalid> wrote in message

> > news:XFotv8A72hhHFw90[at]spam.invalid...
> > > In message <786BAE5B-5E4A-481B-9EA2-7CF6129009F8[at]microsoft.com> , KevinD
> > > <kjdinoc[at]msn.com> writes
> > > > My Money file has been deleted twice for no reason. I have the latest
> > > > version of Money running on Windows Vista. This seems to have started
> > > > just a week ago and has now happened twice. I have no idea where it's
> > > > going or how its deleted so I was wondering if anyone else has
> > > > experienced this? Luckily Vista keeps several "shadow" copies of the
> > > > file so its easy to
> > > > recover but I would like to know what's causing this.
> > > > > Welcome to the club...
> > > > > There is a similar thread in microsoft.public.uk.money see "MM2005 file
> > > disappearing" I have cross-posted this to there as well.
> > > > > FWIW I am running XP with UK Money2004 (MS seem to have abandoned
> > > producing UK versions after 2005)
> > > > > This problem seems to have appeared in the last couple of weeks for no
> > > apparent reason to Money installations that have been stable for months
> > > if not years.
> > > Since it is not unique to a particular user/OS/version of Money then I
> > > am assuming it is something MS have done until proven otherwise - much
> > > like the disablement of the passport link recently.
> > > > > Regards
> > > --
> > > Martin Beenham (martin at beenham dot me dot uk)

>

  #9  
Old 01-20-2008, 04:45 PM
Bob Peel, MVP
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Real long shot but what is the directory that your .mny file resides in?

--
Regards
Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

For UK tips & fixes see
http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny.


I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.

"Don" <don.forrester[at]btintenet.com> wrote in message
news:328B1626-63A0-43E9-8017-1D20B9C96B2D[at]microsoft.com...
- quote -

> Hi
> I've experienced my money file being deleted over the last 3 months or so.
> Everything is okay for say a couple of weeks, then it suddenly disappears
> once or twice and is hen okay for another couple of weeks.
> I use Ms money 2005 on Vista. Fortunately I make backups every day for the
> previous 3 weeks, so can always restore. This disappearance does not occur
> on any other file on my system.
> I can find nothing in Event Viewer to account for this.
> Don
> "Martin Beenham" <martin[at]spam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:XFotv8A72hhHFw90[at]spam.invalid...
> > In message <786BAE5B-5E4A-481B-9EA2-7CF6129009F8[at]microsoft.com> , KevinD
> > <kjdinoc[at]msn.com> writes
> > > My Money file has been deleted twice for no reason. I have the latest
> > > version of Money running on Windows Vista. This seems to have started
> > > just a week ago and has now happened twice. I have no idea where it's
> > > going or how its deleted so I was wondering if anyone else has
> > > experienced this? Luckily Vista keeps several "shadow" copies of the file
> > > so its easy to
> > > recover but I would like to know what's causing this.
> > > Welcome to the club...
> > > There is a similar thread in microsoft.public.uk.money see "MM2005 file

> > disappearing" I have cross-posted this to there as well.
> > > FWIW I am running XP with UK Money2004 (MS seem to have abandoned

> > producing UK versions after 2005)
> > > This problem seems to have appeared in the last couple of weeks for no

> > apparent reason to Money installations that have been stable for months
> > if not years.
> > Since it is not unique to a particular user/OS/version of Money then I
> > am assuming it is something MS have done until proven otherwise - much
> > like the disablement of the passport link recently.
> > > Regards

> > --
> > Martin Beenham (martin at beenham dot me dot uk)


  #8  
Old 01-20-2008, 03:44 PM
Don
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Hi

I've experienced my money file being deleted over the last 3 months or so.
Everything is okay for say a couple of weeks, then it suddenly disappears
once or twice and is hen okay for another couple of weeks.

I use Ms money 2005 on Vista. Fortunately I make backups every day for the
previous 3 weeks, so can always restore. This disappearance does not occur
on any other file on my system.

I can find nothing in Event Viewer to account for this.

Don




"Martin Beenham" <martin[at]spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:XFotv8A72hhHFw90[at]spam.invalid...
- quote -

> In message <786BAE5B-5E4A-481B-9EA2-7CF6129009F8[at]microsoft.com> , KevinD
> <kjdinoc[at]msn.com> writes
> > My Money file has been deleted twice for no reason. I have the latest
> > version of Money running on Windows Vista. This seems to have started
> > just a week ago and has now happened twice. I have no idea where it's
> > going or how its deleted so I was wondering if anyone else has
> > experienced this? Luckily Vista keeps several "shadow" copies of the file
> > so its easy to
> > recover but I would like to know what's causing this.

> Welcome to the club...
> There is a similar thread in microsoft.public.uk.money see "MM2005 file
> disappearing" I have cross-posted this to there as well.
> FWIW I am running XP with UK Money2004 (MS seem to have abandoned
> producing UK versions after 2005)
> This problem seems to have appeared in the last couple of weeks for no
> apparent reason to Money installations that have been stable for months if
> not years.
> Since it is not unique to a particular user/OS/version of Money then I am
> assuming it is something MS have done until proven otherwise - much like
> the disablement of the passport link recently.
> Regards
> --
> Martin Beenham (martin at beenham dot me dot uk)


  #7  
Old 01-14-2008, 01:34 AM
Cal Learner
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In microsoft.public.uk.money, Chris Cowles wrote:

- quote -

> If you don't have a network drive, you can direct it to a CD or DVD
> writer. I think Money will prompt you for a disk, but I'm not sure. If
> you set it to 'ask me before backing up' it definitely will prompt you
> before doing anything.


A USB flash drive is good for many of us for that purpose. In XP or
Vista, you can set the drive letter to something fixed.
  #6  
Old 01-13-2008, 11:54 PM
Chris Cowles
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"teabag" <nobody[at]home.com> wrote in message
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- quote -

> You should be aware that if your ???.mny file becomes corrupt
> (though you may not immediately know it) and you make a backup on
> exit - then that backup will itself be corrupt. This is why it is
> essential to have more than 1 backup (don't forever just overwrite
> the same one). There are various backup strategies but always
> remember that the older the backup you may be obliged to use, the
> greater the amount of data you must be prepared re-entered. I use 6
> backups named: 1 Monday.mbf, 2 Tuesday.mbf etc (all in the same
> folder) and I browse to 'today', whatever that is, on the way out.
> Because I don't open Money everyday it works out that there will
> usually be a backup that is a couple of weeks old - and hence
> probably predates any Microsoft download that creates its own
> problem; often I can use a backup that is only a couple of days old
> and then I have relatively little data to


My alternative approach to the same goal is to backup automatically on
exit to the local drive. Because I have lots of space, I save the last
15 backups. In backup setup I have scheduled backups set to weekly and
directed to a network drive, keeping the last 3 copies. Neither of
those methods compress the file.

In addtion, my general computer backup routine backs up the main file
(and the backups, of course) to a network drive. The difference is the
computer backup is a copy of the original file in MNY format, not a
Money 'backup' format.

If you don't have a network drive, you can direct it to a CD or DVD
writer. I think Money will prompt you for a disk, but I'm not sure. If
you set it to 'ask me before backing up' it definitely will prompt you
before doing anything.
--
Chris Cowles
Gainesville, FL


  #5  
Old 01-13-2008, 07:21 PM
teabag
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You should be aware that if your ???.mny file becomes corrupt (though you
may not immediately know it) and you make a backup on exit - then that
backup will itself be corrupt. This is why it is essential to have more than
1 backup (don't forever just overwrite the same one). There are various
backup strategies but always remember that the older the backup you may be
obliged to use, the greater the amount of data you must be prepared
re-entered. I use 6 backups named: 1 Monday.mbf, 2 Tuesday.mbf etc (all in
the same folder) and I browse to 'today', whatever that is, on the way out.
Because I don't open Money everyday it works out that there will usually be
a backup that is a couple of weeks old - and hence probably predates any
Microsoft download that creates its own problem; often I can use a backup
that is only a couple of days old and then I have relatively little data to
re-enter.

teabag


"Gatorman98" <Gatorman98[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E848F951-EFB8-4019-A03E-2C8C48D979A3[at]microsoft.com...
- quote -

> Has anyone heard anything new about this? This has now happened twice to
> me
> and I had to go in and pull it back from my carbonite back-up each time.
> I
> could not even use the money back-up file as it says it is corrupt every
> time
> I try to open it.
> This is a pretty serios issue!
> Jeff
> "Martin Beenham" wrote:
> > In message <786BAE5B-5E4A-481B-9EA2-7CF6129009F8[at]microsoft.com> , KevinD
> > <kjdinoc[at]msn.com> writes
> > > My Money file has been deleted twice for no reason. I have the latest
> > > version of Money running on Windows Vista. This seems to have started
> > > just a week ago and has now happened twice. I have no idea where it's
> > > going or how its deleted so I was wondering if anyone else has
> > > experienced this?
> > > > > Luckily Vista keeps several "shadow" copies of the file so its easy to
> > > recover but I would like to know what's causing this.
> > > Welcome to the club...
> > > There is a similar thread in microsoft.public.uk.money see "MM2005 file

> > disappearing" I have cross-posted this to there as well.
> > > FWIW I am running XP with UK Money2004 (MS seem to have abandoned

> > producing UK versions after 2005)
> > > This problem seems to have appeared in the last couple of weeks for no

> > apparent reason to Money installations that have been stable for months
> > if not years.
> > Since it is not unique to a particular user/OS/version of Money then I
> > am assuming it is something MS have done until proven otherwise - much
> > like the disablement of the passport link recently.
> > > Regards

> > --
> > Martin Beenham (martin at beenham dot me dot uk)

>


  #4  
Old 01-13-2008, 05:34 PM
Gatorman98
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Has anyone heard anything new about this? This has now happened twice to me
and I had to go in and pull it back from my carbonite back-up each time. I
could not even use the money back-up file as it says it is corrupt every time
I try to open it.

This is a pretty serios issue!

Jeff

"Martin Beenham" wrote:

- quote -

> In message <786BAE5B-5E4A-481B-9EA2-7CF6129009F8[at]microsoft.com> , KevinD
> <kjdinoc[at]msn.com> writes
> > My Money file has been deleted twice for no reason. I have the latest
> > version of Money running on Windows Vista. This seems to have started
> > just a week ago and has now happened twice. I have no idea where it's
> > going or how its deleted so I was wondering if anyone else has
> > experienced this?
> > > Luckily Vista keeps several "shadow" copies of the file so its easy to

> > recover but I would like to know what's causing this.

> Welcome to the club...
> There is a similar thread in microsoft.public.uk.money see "MM2005 file
> disappearing" I have cross-posted this to there as well.
> FWIW I am running XP with UK Money2004 (MS seem to have abandoned
> producing UK versions after 2005)
> This problem seems to have appeared in the last couple of weeks for no
> apparent reason to Money installations that have been stable for months
> if not years.
> Since it is not unique to a particular user/OS/version of Money then I
> am assuming it is something MS have done until proven otherwise - much
> like the disablement of the passport link recently.
> Regards
> --
> Martin Beenham (martin at beenham dot me dot uk)

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Old 01-10-2008, 12:29 PM
Martin Beenham
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In message <786BAE5B-5E4A-481B-9EA2-7CF6129009F8[at]microsoft.com> , KevinD
<kjdinoc[at]msn.com> writes
- quote -

> My Money file has been deleted twice for no reason.* I have the latest
> version of Money running on Windows Vista.* This seems to have started
> just a week ago and has now happened twice.* I have no idea where it's
> going or how its deleted so I was wondering if anyone else has
> experienced this?*
> *
> Luckily Vista keeps several "shadow" copies of the file so its easy to
> recover but I would like to know what's causing this.*


Welcome to the club...

There is a similar thread in microsoft.public.uk.money see "MM2005 file
disappearing" I have cross-posted this to there as well.

FWIW I am running XP with UK Money2004 (MS seem to have abandoned
producing UK versions after 2005)

This problem seems to have appeared in the last couple of weeks for no
apparent reason to Money installations that have been stable for months
if not years.
Since it is not unique to a particular user/OS/version of Money then I
am assuming it is something MS have done until proven otherwise - much
like the disablement of the passport link recently.

Regards
--
Martin Beenham (martin at beenham dot me dot uk)
  #2  
Old 01-10-2008, 11:57 AM
KevinD
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Yes,

It is in "my documents" folder which I have moved to a different hard drive.

The strange thing is that it has been there working just fine for 4 or 5
months. This behavior just all of a sudden started about two weeks ago.

"Steve" <respond[at]online.newsgroup> wrote in message
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- quote -

> "KevinD" <kjdinoc[at]msn.com> wrote on 09 Jan 2008 in group
> microsoft.public.money:
> > My Money file has been deleted twice for no reason. I have the
> > latest version of Money running on Windows Vista. This seems to have
> > started just a week ago and has now happened twice. I have no idea
> > where it's going or how its deleted so I was wondering if anyone else
> > has experienced this?
> > > Luckily Vista keeps several "shadow" copies of the file so its easy

> > to recover but I would like to know what's causing this.

> Is your Money file stored somewhere in your Documents folder? If you leave
> it where Money wants to put it by default, you don't have permission to
> edit the file unless you log in to the Adminstrator account. Vista then
> creates an "impermanent" copy, and how it's handled is a mystery.
> --
> Steve B.
> New Life Home Improvement


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Old 01-09-2008, 11:07 PM
Steve
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"KevinD" <kjdinoc[at]msn.com> wrote on 09 Jan 2008 in group
microsoft.public.money:

- quote -

> My Money file has been deleted twice for no reason. I have the
> latest version of Money running on Windows Vista. This seems to have
> started just a week ago and has now happened twice. I have no idea
> where it's going or how its deleted so I was wondering if anyone else
> has experienced this?
> Luckily Vista keeps several "shadow" copies of the file so its easy
> to recover but I would like to know what's causing this.


Is your Money file stored somewhere in your Documents folder? If you leave
it where Money wants to put it by default, you don't have permission to
edit the file unless you log in to the Adminstrator account. Vista then
creates an "impermanent" copy, and how it's handled is a mystery.

--
Steve B.
New Life Home Improvement
 
Old 01-09-2008, 03:44 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, KevinD wrote:

- quote -

> My Money file has been deleted twice for no reason. I have the latest version of Money running on Windows Vista. This seems to have started just a week ago and has now happened twice. I have no idea where it's going or how its deleted so I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this?
> Luckily Vista keeps several "shadow" copies of the file so its easy to recover but I would like to know what's causing this.


If you look around your computer, you will probably find a temp file
with the appropriate time and date. Renaming that to *.mny and
opening with Money is said to work by some posters.

You might want to contact Microsoft support.

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Old 01-09-2008, 01:30 PM
KevinD
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Default File Being deleted

My Money file has been deleted twice for no reason. I have the latest version of Money running on Windows Vista. This seems to have started just a week ago and has now happened twice. I have no idea where it's going or how its deleted so I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this?

Luckily Vista keeps several "shadow" copies of the file so its easy to recover but I would like to know what's causing this.

--
Kevin
 

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