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| If you are done with the bond... for SAVINGS bonds, what I (was told to) do is: (assume: buy $100 bond for $75 , eventually worth $100+ ( if kept PAST maturity)) I post the buy for $75. I update price in Portfolio view as time goes by. Whenever I sell it , I register interest income for the difference and sell it for $75. So no losss/no gain - just interest income. Come tax time I have to KNOW that it's not a capital gain/loss sale (sched D) and merely interest (sched B). "Christian" <Christian[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0746A3F3-B97A-40F1-B90A-52DC8622A735[at]microsoft.com... - quote - > Thanks. I have tried this but it does not work. It adds the capital to > my > cash account but the bond value and quantity is still remains - ? > Suddenly I > just got much richer.... > -- > Cheers. > Christian > "Dick Watson" wrote: > > There is a Return of Capital investment activity... > > > "Christian" <Christian[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:75CA3A95-DB74-447D-9C66-E618DA9E53C9[at]microsoft.com... > > > I have a bond investment that matured on Jan 1 2008. The principal > > > amount > > > has > > > now been returned to my bank account. How do I record this in my > > > investment > > > transactions? > > > |
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| In microsoft.public.money, Dick Watson wrote: - quote - > So how do you value the security in these cases?
Many are publicly traded and have symbols, so they would be easy.For an S corp, I guess an accountant would be necessary. - quote - > "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message > news:nkivn3hbl977adk6n606cnmmgnau7f118c[at]4ax.com... > > In microsoft.public.money, Dick Watson wrote: > > > > Yah. So, when the basis goes to $0 because they sent you your money back > > > but > > > you still have the piece of paper, what's that? (I think this is more or > > > less the OPs case.) > > > That piece of paper (not a bond) can still pay you distributions. > > You can sell it for a non-zero amount. MLPs (and I think maybe > > S-corps) work this way in that you can have at least some of the > > distributions that reduce basis (as low but no lower than zero) but > > are not taxable. |
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| So how do you value the security in these cases? "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message news:nkivn3hbl977adk6n606cnmmgnau7f118c[at]4ax.com... - quote - > In microsoft.public.money, Dick Watson wrote: > > Yah. So, when the basis goes to $0 because they sent you your money back > > but > > you still have the piece of paper, what's that? (I think this is more or > > less the OPs case.) > That piece of paper (not a bond) can still pay you distributions. > You can sell it for a non-zero amount. MLPs (and I think maybe > S-corps) work this way in that you can have at least some of the > distributions that reduce basis (as low but no lower than zero) but > are not taxable. |
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| In microsoft.public.money, Dick Watson wrote: - quote - > Yah. So, when the basis goes to $0 because they sent you your money back but
That piece of paper (not a bond) can still pay you distributions.> you still have the piece of paper, what's that? (I think this is more or > less the OPs case.) You can sell it for a non-zero amount. MLPs (and I think maybe S-corps) work this way in that you can have at least some of the distributions that reduce basis (as low but no lower than zero) but are not taxable. - quote - > "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message > news:0uavn3pd5db2a2phk70ogcnkt474d66kcu[at]4ax.com... > > In microsoft.public.money, Dick Watson wrote: > > > > A straight Sell works too. Of course that brings to mind the question: why > > > is there, then, the Return of Capital activity in the first place? > > > > > Return of capital is for when the basis goes down as they return > > cash, but you still own the security. > |
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| Yah. So, when the basis goes to $0 because they sent you your money back but you still have the piece of paper, what's that? (I think this is more or less the OPs case.) "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message news:0uavn3pd5db2a2phk70ogcnkt474d66kcu[at]4ax.com... - quote - > In microsoft.public.money, Dick Watson wrote: > > A straight Sell works too. Of course that brings to mind the question: why > > is there, then, the Return of Capital activity in the first place? > > Return of capital is for when the basis goes down as they return > cash, but you still own the security. |
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| In microsoft.public.money, Dick Watson wrote: - quote - > A straight Sell works too. Of course that brings to mind the question: why
Return of capital is for when the basis goes down as they return> is there, then, the Return of Capital activity in the first place? cash, but you still own the security. |
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| A straight Sell works too. Of course that brings to mind the question: why is there, then, the Return of Capital activity in the first place? |
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| It is always helpful to mention what you've already tried... What I have done in the past is Return of Capital followed by Sell for $0. "Christian" <Christian[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0746A3F3-B97A-40F1-B90A-52DC8622A735[at]microsoft.com... - quote - > Thanks. I have tried this but it does not work. It adds the capital to my > cash account but the bond value and quantity is still remains - ? Suddenly > I > just got much richer.... |
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| In microsoft.public.money, Christian wrote: - quote - > Thanks. I have tried this but it does not work. It adds the capital to my
You did a Buy of a bond originally, and you later did a Sell of the> cash account but the bond value and quantity is still remains - ? Suddenly I > just got much richer.... same "Quantity" (the face value) of the same bond. I would then expect you to have zero remaining. |
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| In microsoft.public.money, Christian wrote: - quote - > I have a bond investment that matured on Jan 1 2008. The principal amount has
Enter a Sell.> now been returned to my bank account. How do I record this in my investment > transactions? |
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| Thanks. I have tried this but it does not work. It adds the capital to my cash account but the bond value and quantity is still remains - ? Suddenly I just got much richer.... -- Cheers. Christian "Dick Watson" wrote: - quote - > There is a Return of Capital investment activity... > "Christian" <Christian[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:75CA3A95-DB74-447D-9C66-E618DA9E53C9[at]microsoft.com... > > I have a bond investment that matured on Jan 1 2008. The principal amount > > has > > now been returned to my bank account. How do I record this in my > > investment > > transactions? |
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| There is a Return of Capital investment activity... "Christian" <Christian[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:75CA3A95-DB74-447D-9C66-E618DA9E53C9[at]microsoft.com... - quote - > I have a bond investment that matured on Jan 1 2008. The principal amount > has > now been returned to my bank account. How do I record this in my > investment > transactions? |
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| I have a bond investment that matured on Jan 1 2008. The principal amount has now been returned to my bank account. How do I record this in my investment transactions? -- Cheers. Christian |
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