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  #30  
Old 01-06-2008, 03:01 PM
BobRob
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Cal,

Thanks for your sugestion. A good security process. However, as the Net
Passport facility appears to be in operation again I will stick to ths. BTW I
backup my Money file every two weeks to a floppy and every few days to my
laptop.

Something must have happened in the land of Money, MSN or Microsoft to have
this flaw suddenly in the Money system. The good news is that all appears
well now.

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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> In microsoft.public.money, BobRob wrote:
> > Hello Everybody,
> > > It is now over 4weeks since i reoprted the login failure. I am please dto

> > say that I can now login with my passport. Thanks for everybody's support.

> You may want to consider removing the Passport from your file. If
> you don't want to do that, you might consider making a copy of your
> file with a different name every month or two. Remove the Passport
> from that copy, and save the file in a safe place as insurance.

  #29  
Old 01-05-2008, 10:51 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, BobRob wrote:

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> Hello Everybody,
> It is now over 4weeks since i reoprted the login failure. I am please dto
> say that I can now login with my passport. Thanks for everybody's support.


You may want to consider removing the Passport from your file. If
you don't want to do that, you might consider making a copy of your
file with a different name every month or two. Remove the Passport
from that copy, and save the file in a safe place as insurance.
  #28  
Old 01-05-2008, 09:24 PM
BobRob
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Hello Everybody,

It is now over 4weeks since i reoprted the login failure. I am please dto
say that I can now login with my passport. Thanks for everybody's support.

BobRob

"Manlio" wrote:

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> Followup to msg on Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:04:46 -0500, "Marilyn & Bob"
> <Privacy[at]nospam.please> :
> (Original msg on bottom)
> My 2004 version is OK .. oops .. was OK until this last failure of
> the system. I can easily get my data from the bank and update
> quotations on the web. I had also all data syncronized on the web so I
> may check them when out of home. Now I cannot do this through my PC
> Money, but I can enter web data directly on Web UK Money, as there the
> passport works fine.
> I will wait MS People repair this failure as I have read now they are
> aware of the problem.
> Thanks for answering.
> Happy 2008
> Manlio
> > institutions. However the UK version will probably not time out until (and
> > if) M$ produces a newer UK version of Money.

  #27  
Old 12-30-2007, 12:47 PM
Manlio
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Followup to msg on Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:04:46 -0500, "Marilyn & Bob"
<Privacy[at]nospam.please> :
(Original msg on bottom)

My 2004 version is OK .. oops .. was OK until this last failure of
the system. I can easily get my data from the bank and update
quotations on the web. I had also all data syncronized on the web so I
may check them when out of home. Now I cannot do this through my PC
Money, but I can enter web data directly on Web UK Money, as there the
passport works fine.

I will wait MS People repair this failure as I have read now they are
aware of the problem.
Thanks for answering.
Happy 2008

Manlio




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> institutions. However the UK version will probably not time out until (and
> if) M$ produces a newer UK version of Money.


  #26  
Old 12-29-2007, 07:04 PM
Marilyn & Bob
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The M2005 UK version may be older than the US ones, but it is hardly
obsolete (nor is M2004). I'm sure that lots of software on your computer is
more that 3 years old and works fine. The only thing that times out after 2
years in the US version is the ability to download data from your financial
institutions. However the UK version will probably not time out until (and
if) M$ produces a newer UK version of Money.
--
Peace,
BobJ

"Manlio" <noemail[at]news.org> wrote in message
news:035cn3lbn856qj5v9apl5gr3e1ddt3ipqc[at]4ax.com...
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> Followup to msg on Fri, 28 Dec 2007 06:46:03 -0800, OldBored
> <OldBored[at]discussions.microsoft.com> :
> (Original msg on bottom)
> Hi,
> as I understand you are using a UK 2004 version of Money, as I do
> despite I am in Italy, pls will you be so kind to comment my following
> issue:
> I have seen that the last "new" Money purchasable in England seems
> to me almost obsolete with respect of the US editions, so as the UK
> Money is waiting to issue a real new version. For the above I dont see
> any good reason to upgrade.
> I will appreciate receiving you comment.
> Thanks
> Manlio
> > MSFT has acknowledged the issue
> > http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...orkStatus.aspx
> > > > "BobRob" wrote:
> > > > Help please, I am in the UK and use Money 2004 with XP Home (service
> > > pack 2).
> > > After a number of years I am unable to login in using my Windows live ID
> > > passport. When I check in Money / File / Passport Manager I am advised
> > > that
> > > my passport sign in is enabled for my e-mail address. Also I can sign
> > > into
> > > other websites which require my Windows Live ID.
> > > Advice please on how to correct this error.
> > > > > BobRob18



  #25  
Old 12-29-2007, 08:38 AM
Manlio
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Followup to msg on Fri, 28 Dec 2007 06:46:03 -0800, OldBored
<OldBored[at]discussions.microsoft.com> :
(Original msg on bottom)

Hi,
as I understand you are using a UK 2004 version of Money, as I do
despite I am in Italy, pls will you be so kind to comment my following
issue:
I have seen that the last "new" Money purchasable in England seems
to me almost obsolete with respect of the US editions, so as the UK
Money is waiting to issue a real new version. For the above I dont see
any good reason to upgrade.
I will appreciate receiving you comment.

Thanks
Manlio



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> MSFT has acknowledged the issue
> http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...orkStatus.aspx
> "BobRob" wrote:
> > Help please, I am in the UK and use Money 2004 with XP Home (service pack 2).
> > After a number of years I am unable to login in using my Windows live ID
> > passport. When I check in Money / File / Passport Manager I am advised that
> > my passport sign in is enabled for my e-mail address. Also I can sign into
> > other websites which require my Windows Live ID.
> > Advice please on how to correct this error.
> > > BobRob18


  #24  
Old 12-28-2007, 01:46 PM
OldBored
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MSFT has acknowledged the issue
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...orkStatus.aspx


"BobRob" wrote:

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> Help please, I am in the UK and use Money 2004 with XP Home (service pack 2).
> After a number of years I am unable to login in using my Windows live ID
> passport. When I check in Money / File / Passport Manager I am advised that
> my passport sign in is enabled for my e-mail address. Also I can sign into
> other websites which require my Windows Live ID.
> Advice please on how to correct this error.
> BobRob18

  #23  
Old 12-25-2007, 09:10 AM
OldBored
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Msft's final solution
Hello David,

Thank you for your reply, unfotunatelly what we can do at this time is
create a new file with a new passport and then restore a back up or import
the information from the old file.

Regards,

Haydee L.

Thus I either have to A) have two passport accounts (and hope that it fixes
it!), or B) move every account (MSN, MSDN, TechNet, Outside instutions like
Compass Bank) that rely on passport to the new account. MSFT is dropping the
ball.

"Eh!" wrote:

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> I'm in Canada and the same problem started on Dec 17th with Money 2004
> Canadian version. Hope this gets resolved soon.
> "OldBored" wrote:
> > Ok I can top all of you. 4 weeks ago I upgraded the disk in my laptop. I
> > had a few issues that I worked out. Monday I loaded NOD32 and some other
> > software. Tuesday Money 2004 would not accept name and password. I could
> > still log on to Hotmail and Microsoft. I put my OLD disk back in and had the
> > same problem, thus it was NOT a local (cache/cookie/etc) issue. Found the
> > website update notice on the web, found a knowledge base article and tried
> > it's solutions. Emailed support, got back an answer about downloading a new
> > Certificate and did such. Support them said refered me the the knowledge
> > base article. Support refuses to even say soory or we are working on it. I
> > think some support heads need to roll while/if the techs work to fix issue.

  #22  
Old 12-21-2007, 06:23 PM
Eh!
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I'm in Canada and the same problem started on Dec 17th with Money 2004
Canadian version. Hope this gets resolved soon.

"OldBored" wrote:

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> Ok I can top all of you. 4 weeks ago I upgraded the disk in my laptop. I
> had a few issues that I worked out. Monday I loaded NOD32 and some other
> software. Tuesday Money 2004 would not accept name and password. I could
> still log on to Hotmail and Microsoft. I put my OLD disk back in and had the
> same problem, thus it was NOT a local (cache/cookie/etc) issue. Found the
> website update notice on the web, found a knowledge base article and tried
> it's solutions. Emailed support, got back an answer about downloading a new
> Certificate and did such. Support them said refered me the the knowledge
> base article. Support refuses to even say soory or we are working on it. I
> think some support heads need to roll while/if the techs work to fix issue.

  #21  
Old 12-20-2007, 02:53 PM
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Ok I can top all of you. 4 weeks ago I upgraded the disk in my laptop. I
had a few issues that I worked out. Monday I loaded NOD32 and some other
software. Tuesday Money 2004 would not accept name and password. I could
still log on to Hotmail and Microsoft. I put my OLD disk back in and had the
same problem, thus it was NOT a local (cache/cookie/etc) issue. Found the
website update notice on the web, found a knowledge base article and tried
it's solutions. Emailed support, got back an answer about downloading a new
Certificate and did such. Support them said refered me the the knowledge
base article. Support refuses to even say soory or we are working on it. I
think some support heads need to roll while/if the techs work to fix issue.
  #20  
Old 12-20-2007, 12:06 PM
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I.m a UK user with the same problem. However I have found that I can open
Money by clicking the box on the initial screen that says"I do not require
the online features of Money which require Microsoft Passport etc." If I then
seect "update securities online" everything does update but there are no
subsequent automatic updates, i.e. I have to initiate further updates myself.

"Linda" wrote:

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> I am not in the UK I'm in the USA and I have not been able to log on since
> Dec 17th also.
> That online services notice was some time ago does it really apply to just
> updating investments which is all I do.
> Has anyone tried Quicken? It's so hard to get support on Microsoft I may
> try them if I have to upgrade.
> Linda
> Missouri
> "Mikeinnc" wrote:
> > I too am in the US using Money 2004 Standard OEM Edition, v12 Update 1 and I
> > have been unable to use my Passport login since Monday 17 Dec. I have changed
> > my Passport password and can log-in to any other Passport site, but my Money
> > file just will not accept the Passport parameters when I try. Anyone have any
> > clue as to what is happening?
> > > Thanks.
> > > "BobRob" wrote:
> > > > Help please, I am in the UK and use Money 2004 with XP Home (service pack 2).
> > > After a number of years I am unable to login in using my Windows live ID
> > > passport. When I check in Money / File / Passport Manager I am advised that
> > > my passport sign in is enabled for my e-mail address. Also I can sign into
> > > other websites which require my Windows Live ID.
> > > Advice please on how to correct this error.
> > > > > BobRob18

  #19  
Old 12-20-2007, 12:18 AM
shilu
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I to am in the us and for the last couple of days I can not login to msmoney
but I can login at the website with the passport password.

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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> In microsoft.public.money, Cal Learner-- MVP wrote:
> > In microsoft.public.money, BobRob wrote:
> > > > > > Can I SHOUT for an experienced MVP e.g. CAL LEARNER? Have you any
> > > suggestions as to how to resolve our Login failure?
> > > I would remove the Passport, and protect your file with conventional

> > password or other means.

> And to clarify, do *NOT* delete your Passport/LiveID. I am talking
> about inside UK Money 2004 after you have opened to work offline.
> File-PasswordManager you can choose to remove your Passport. If you
> need to do something else first, expect it to tell you.

  #18  
Old 12-19-2007, 10:53 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, Clarkey7 wrote:

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> How can I open the "passport protected file" offline in the first place! It
> doesn't allow me to do that?


Isn't there a "work offline" or some such?

If you don't see it, see if IE File-> WorkOffline before opening
Money helps with that.

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Old 12-19-2007, 10:19 PM
Linda
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I am not in the UK I'm in the USA and I have not been able to log on since
Dec 17th also.

That online services notice was some time ago does it really apply to just
updating investments which is all I do.

Has anyone tried Quicken? It's so hard to get support on Microsoft I may
try them if I have to upgrade.

Linda
Missouri

"Mikeinnc" wrote:

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> I too am in the US using Money 2004 Standard OEM Edition, v12 Update 1 and I
> have been unable to use my Passport login since Monday 17 Dec. I have changed
> my Passport password and can log-in to any other Passport site, but my Money
> file just will not accept the Passport parameters when I try. Anyone have any
> clue as to what is happening?
> Thanks.
> "BobRob" wrote:
> > Help please, I am in the UK and use Money 2004 with XP Home (service pack 2).
> > After a number of years I am unable to login in using my Windows live ID
> > passport. When I check in Money / File / Passport Manager I am advised that
> > my passport sign in is enabled for my e-mail address. Also I can sign into
> > other websites which require my Windows Live ID.
> > Advice please on how to correct this error.
> > > BobRob18

  #16  
Old 12-19-2007, 10:17 PM
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How can I open the "passport protected file" offline in the first place! It
doesn't allow me to do that?
--
Regards,

Clarkey7




"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, Cal Learner-- MVP wrote:
> > In microsoft.public.money, BobRob wrote:
> > > > > > Can I SHOUT for an experienced MVP e.g. CAL LEARNER? Have you any
> > > suggestions as to how to resolve our Login failure?
> > > I would remove the Passport, and protect your file with conventional

> > password or other means.

> And to clarify, do *NOT* delete your Passport/LiveID. I am talking
> about inside UK Money 2004 after you have opened to work offline.
> File-PasswordManager you can choose to remove your Passport. If you
> need to do something else first, expect it to tell you.

  #15  
Old 12-19-2007, 09:47 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, Cal Learner-- MVP wrote:

- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, BobRob wrote:
> > > Can I SHOUT for an experienced MVP e.g. CAL LEARNER? Have you any

> > suggestions as to how to resolve our Login failure?

> I would remove the Passport, and protect your file with conventional
> password or other means.


And to clarify, do *NOT* delete your Passport/LiveID. I am talking
about inside UK Money 2004 after you have opened to work offline.

File-PasswordManager you can choose to remove your Passport. If you
need to do something else first, expect it to tell you.

  #14  
Old 12-19-2007, 09:35 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, BobRob wrote:

- quote -

> Can I SHOUT for an experienced MVP e.g. CAL LEARNER? Have you any
> suggestions as to how to resolve our Login failure?


I would remove the Passport, and protect your file with conventional
password or other means.

  #13  
Old 12-19-2007, 09:27 PM
BobRob
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Hello All,

Can I SHOUT for an experienced MVP e.g. CAL LEARNER? Have you any
suggestions as to how to resolve our Login failure?

BobRob

"Mikeinnc" wrote:

- quote -

> I too am in the US using Money 2004 Standard OEM Edition, v12 Update 1 and I
> have been unable to use my Passport login since Monday 17 Dec. I have changed
> my Passport password and can log-in to any other Passport site, but my Money
> file just will not accept the Passport parameters when I try. Anyone have any
> clue as to what is happening?
> Thanks.
> "BobRob" wrote:
> > Help please, I am in the UK and use Money 2004 with XP Home (service pack 2).
> > After a number of years I am unable to login in using my Windows live ID
> > passport. When I check in Money / File / Passport Manager I am advised that
> > my passport sign in is enabled for my e-mail address. Also I can sign into
> > other websites which require my Windows Live ID.
> > Advice please on how to correct this error.
> > > BobRob18

  #12  
Old 12-19-2007, 07:19 PM
Clarkey7
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Dear All,

I too have had trouble all day today and so far I have been unable to login
to my money file. I am not even able to access offline and to make it worse
Microsoft do not support my 2005 version!

What a useless shower they are! ANyone any ideas pleaseeeeeee?
--
Regards,

Clarkey7




"BobRob" wrote:

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> Hello All,
> I see that many people are experienceing the same problem. I looked at the
> UK Community and suprise, suprise most of the recent discussion is on the
> same topic as many in this comunity are also experiecing the problem.
> Something is going on! Do any of the MVPs know what is hapening?
> BobROb
> "BobRob" wrote:
> > Davo,
> > > Unfortunately this upgrade is not suitable for the UK. We lag well behind

> > the US as Money 2005 is the most recent version which is compatible with the
> > UK financial institutions and practices. Even 2005 differs very little from
> > 2004.
> > > Thanks fopr the thought.
> > > BobRob
> > > "Davo" wrote:
> > > > I ran across this as the same web site:
> > > > > Money 2003, 2004 and 2005 Online Services expiration notification
> > > > > Effect:
> > > Microsoft® Money versions 2003 and later includes support for online
> > > services for either two or three years. Please refer to your Online Service
> > > Policy (OSP) document, which outlines the length of certain online services
> > > available for your version of Money.
> > > > > If you receive notification regarding your online service plan and would
> > > like to continue using these online services within Microsoft Money make sure
> > > you take a few minutes to upgrade to Microsoft Money Plus today by going to
> > > http://microsoft.com/money.
> > > > > Note: If you used prior versions of Money, you should not purchase
> > > “Microsoft Money Essentials”, because this version is meant for new users,
> > > and will not convert previous Money files.
> > > > > To access the License Agreement in Money 2003, or the Online Services Policy
> > > in Money 2004 or the Internet-based Services Policy in Money 2005, go to Help
> > > - About Microsoft Money.
> > > --
> > > Dave
> > > VB Beginner
> > > > > "Steve Meyers" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > "BobRob" wrote:
> > > > > > > > Martin,
> > > > > > > > > I will keep my fingers and toes crossed that you are coorect and that once
> > > > > the site update is complete, normal service will be restoed.
> > > > > > > > > "Martin Beenham" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > In message <2517C32B-B01D-40BC-A1C1-2428DE8BD5B8[at]microsoft.com> , BobRob
> > > > > > <BobRob[at]discussions.microsoft.com> writes
> > > > > > > Help please, I am in the UK and use Money 2004 with XP Home (service pack 2).
> > > > > > > After a number of years I am unable to login in using my Windows live ID
> > > > > > > passport. When I check in Money / File / Passport Manager I am advised that
> > > > > > > my passport sign in is enabled for my e-mail address. Also I can sign into
> > > > > > > other websites which require my Windows Live ID.
> > > > > > > Advice please on how to correct this error.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > BobRob18
> > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that the MS site is still down as a result of their site
> > > > > > update see:
> > > > > > > > > > > http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...orkstatus.aspx
> > > > > > (though this is not of course up to date being MS)
> > > > > > > > > > > I would wait another day and normality should be restored.
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Martin Beenham (martin at beenham dot me dot uk)
> > > > >
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Old 12-19-2007, 07:06 PM
BobRob
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Hello All,

I see that many people are experienceing the same problem. I looked at the
UK Community and suprise, suprise most of the recent discussion is on the
same topic as many in this comunity are also experiecing the problem.

Something is going on! Do any of the MVPs know what is hapening?

BobROb

"BobRob" wrote:

- quote -

> Davo,
> Unfortunately this upgrade is not suitable for the UK. We lag well behind
> the US as Money 2005 is the most recent version which is compatible with the
> UK financial institutions and practices. Even 2005 differs very little from
> 2004.
> Thanks fopr the thought.
> BobRob
> "Davo" wrote:
> > I ran across this as the same web site:
> > > Money 2003, 2004 and 2005 Online Services expiration notification
> > > Effect:

> > Microsoft® Money versions 2003 and later includes support for online
> > services for either two or three years. Please refer to your Online Service
> > Policy (OSP) document, which outlines the length of certain online services
> > available for your version of Money.
> > > If you receive notification regarding your online service plan and would

> > like to continue using these online services within Microsoft Money make sure
> > you take a few minutes to upgrade to Microsoft Money Plus today by going to
> > http://microsoft.com/money.
> > > Note: If you used prior versions of Money, you should not purchase

> > “Microsoft Money Essentials”, because this version is meant for new users,
> > and will not convert previous Money files.
> > > To access the License Agreement in Money 2003, or the Online Services Policy

> > in Money 2004 or the Internet-based Services Policy in Money 2005, go to Help
> > - About Microsoft Money.
> > --
> > Dave
> > VB Beginner
> > > "Steve Meyers" wrote:
> > > > > > > > "BobRob" wrote:
> > > > > > Martin,
> > > > > > > I will keep my fingers and toes crossed that you are coorect and that once
> > > > the site update is complete, normal service will be restoed.
> > > > > > > "Martin Beenham" wrote:
> > > > > > > > In message <2517C32B-B01D-40BC-A1C1-2428DE8BD5B8[at]microsoft.com> , BobRob
> > > > > <BobRob[at]discussions.microsoft.com> writes
> > > > > > Help please, I am in the UK and use Money 2004 with XP Home (service pack 2).
> > > > > > After a number of years I am unable to login in using my Windows live ID
> > > > > > passport. When I check in Money / File / Passport Manager I am advised that
> > > > > > my passport sign in is enabled for my e-mail address. Also I can sign into
> > > > > > other websites which require my Windows Live ID.
> > > > > > Advice please on how to correct this error.
> > > > > > > > > > > BobRob18
> > > > > > > > > I suspect that the MS site is still down as a result of their site
> > > > > update see:
> > > > > > > > > http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...orkstatus.aspx
> > > > > (though this is not of course up to date being MS)
> > > > > > > > > I would wait another day and normality should be restored.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Martin Beenham (martin at beenham dot me dot uk)
> > > >
 

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