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Old 02-02-2008, 02:33 PM
david_at_houston
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Default Re: backups

Just wanted to get back to you after seeing if your advice worked. It did!
The backup folder listed was from my Windows XP system. I changed the folder
to the Vista location. I set the program to maintain 5 backups, and it has
been doing that ever since.
Thanks.

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, Andrew wrote:
> > I had this problem too using Money 2007 Deluxe on Vista Home Premium. I think
> > it happened as a side effect of upgrading to Vista. I noticed the backup
> > settings still specified the backup path using the XP folder structure, e.g.:
> > "C:\Documents and Settings\Andrew\My Documents\" even though the Vista folder
> > structure is actually "C:\Users\Andrew\Documents\". Apparently the folder
> > redirection in Vista works well enough that Money can create the new backup
> > file but not delete the old backup file. Once I switched the backup path to
> > the Vista folder structure, Money properly deleted the oldest backup file.

> Good observation! I cannot confirm that trimming would not have
> happened, since I had raised my number of backups to 39, but I have
> changed my path based on your report.
> > > Note: I don't know if Money will properly delete extra backups prior to

> > making this change. I had already deleted all the backups before changing the
> > path.

> I expect that manually trimming back to the maximum desired would be
> required just once. I would expect that Money would not reduce, the
> number of existing backups, but it would stop growing the number.

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Old 01-24-2008, 06:31 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, Andrew wrote:

- quote -

> I had this problem too using Money 2007 Deluxe on Vista Home Premium. I think
> it happened as a side effect of upgrading to Vista. I noticed the backup
> settings still specified the backup path using the XP folder structure, e.g.:
> "C:\Documents and Settings\Andrew\My Documents\" even though the Vista folder
> structure is actually "C:\Users\Andrew\Documents\". Apparently the folder
> redirection in Vista works well enough that Money can create the new backup
> file but not delete the old backup file. Once I switched the backup path to
> the Vista folder structure, Money properly deleted the oldest backup file.


Good observation! I cannot confirm that trimming would not have
happened, since I had raised my number of backups to 39, but I have
changed my path based on your report.

- quote -

> Note: I don't know if Money will properly delete extra backups prior to
> making this change. I had already deleted all the backups before changing the
> path.


I expect that manually trimming back to the maximum desired would be
required just once. I would expect that Money would not reduce, the
number of existing backups, but it would stop growing the number.
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Old 01-24-2008, 05:23 PM
david_at_houston
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Default Re: backups

Thank you. I suspected the problem was Vista-related. I will try that.

"Andrew" wrote:

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> I had this problem too using Money 2007 Deluxe on Vista Home Premium. I think
> it happened as a side effect of upgrading to Vista. I noticed the backup
> settings still specified the backup path using the XP folder structure, e.g.:
> "C:\Documents and Settings\Andrew\My Documents\" even though the Vista folder
> structure is actually "C:\Users\Andrew\Documents\". Apparently the folder
> redirection in Vista works well enough that Money can create the new backup
> file but not delete the old backup file. Once I switched the backup path to
> the Vista folder structure, Money properly deleted the oldest backup file.
> Note: I don't know if Money will properly delete extra backups prior to
> making this change. I had already deleted all the backups before changing the
> path.
> -Andrew
> "david_at_houston" wrote:
> > > > "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:
> > > > In microsoft.public.money, david_at_houston wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:
> > > > > > > > In microsoft.public.money, david_at_houston wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Money is supposed to automatically delete old backups. However, mine keeps
> > > > > > adding new backups without deleting the old ones. I have entered various
> > > > > > numbers of "to save" backups in the drop down box, with no luck.
> > > > > > > > > It sounds as if you are using Money 2006 or 2007 and backing up to a
> > > > > removable drive. Is that correct?
> > > > > > > Yes. I am using Money Plus Business and Home, the most recent version. I
> > > > have it set to automatically backup to both my hard drive and a flash drive.
> > > > Should I make a change?
> > > > Thanks for your quick reply.
> > > > > That problem you are describing should not occur in Money Plus. What
> > > is your version when you do Help-> About?
> > > > > What Money will do if you choose N backups, is to back up to the
> > > specified media, and then if there are more than N backups with the
> > > same name pattern, to delete the (N+1)th entry. So if N is 4, and
> > > there were 4 existing backups, backup would add a new one, and then
> > > delete the 5th oldest. If N is 4 and there are already 5 backups,
> > > there will still be 5 after backup. Backup adds one, and then
> > > deletes up to one file.
> > > > > Be sure that you don't already have too many matching backups before
> > > setting the amount.
> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > In Money Plus: Tools-> Settings-> BackupSettings
> > > I suggest checking
> > > x Automatically backup my Money file every time I close Money
> > > Save in [a place on your hard drive ]
> > > x Ask me before backing up each time*
> > > x Compress Backup Files
> > > Keep only the _20_most recent backup files [adjust to taste]
> > > > > x Perform scheduled backups every _14_ days
> > > Save in [a USB flash drive location]
> > > x Ask me before backing up each time*
> > > x Compress Backup Files
> > > Keep only the _2_most recent backup files [adjust to taste,
> > > > > Then periodically, perhaps once per month or more, copy your latest
> > > backup (uniquely named by Money) to a CDR. With XP, this can be a
> > > copy and paste operation. Otherwise use the burning software that
> > > came with your CDR drive.
> > > > > I strongly suggest use of a USB Flash drive rather than floppies.
> > > They are bigger, so you don't have to swap media to back up. Plus
> > > they are much more reliable (but not failure-proof).
> > > > > * The reason I have Money ask me, is that I don't want to back up
> > > each time I exit. If I went into Money 5 times in a day, I would
> > > not want to back up 5 times, nor would I want to delete 5 other
> > > backup files. You will be given the choice to BackUpNow or to
> > > Postpone.
> > > > Thank you. I have set my program to those settings. I also deleted all old

> > backups. I will see if this helps. The version of Money Plus I am using is:
> > 17.0.150.727. I should also have mentioned that I am using Vista Home Premium.

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Old 01-24-2008, 06:31 AM
Andrew
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Default Re: backups

I had this problem too using Money 2007 Deluxe on Vista Home Premium. I think
it happened as a side effect of upgrading to Vista. I noticed the backup
settings still specified the backup path using the XP folder structure, e.g.:
"C:\Documents and Settings\Andrew\My Documents\" even though the Vista folder
structure is actually "C:\Users\Andrew\Documents\". Apparently the folder
redirection in Vista works well enough that Money can create the new backup
file but not delete the old backup file. Once I switched the backup path to
the Vista folder structure, Money properly deleted the oldest backup file.

Note: I don't know if Money will properly delete extra backups prior to
making this change. I had already deleted all the backups before changing the
path.

-Andrew

"david_at_houston" wrote:

- quote -

> "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:
> > In microsoft.public.money, david_at_houston wrote:
> > > > > > > > "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:
> > > > > > In microsoft.public.money, david_at_houston wrote:
> > > > > > > > Money is supposed to automatically delete old backups. However, mine keeps
> > > > > adding new backups without deleting the old ones. I have entered various
> > > > > numbers of "to save" backups in the drop down box, with no luck.
> > > > > > > It sounds as if you are using Money 2006 or 2007 and backing up to a
> > > > removable drive. Is that correct?
> > > > > Yes. I am using Money Plus Business and Home, the most recent version. I
> > > have it set to automatically backup to both my hard drive and a flash drive.
> > > Should I make a change?
> > > Thanks for your quick reply.
> > > That problem you are describing should not occur in Money Plus. What

> > is your version when you do Help-> About?
> > > What Money will do if you choose N backups, is to back up to the

> > specified media, and then if there are more than N backups with the
> > same name pattern, to delete the (N+1)th entry. So if N is 4, and
> > there were 4 existing backups, backup would add a new one, and then
> > delete the 5th oldest. If N is 4 and there are already 5 backups,
> > there will still be 5 after backup. Backup adds one, and then
> > deletes up to one file.
> > > Be sure that you don't already have too many matching backups before

> > setting the amount.
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------

> > In Money Plus: Tools-> Settings-> BackupSettings
> > I suggest checking
> > x Automatically backup my Money file every time I close Money
> > Save in [a place on your hard drive ]
> > x Ask me before backing up each time*
> > x Compress Backup Files
> > Keep only the _20_most recent backup files [adjust to taste]
> > > x Perform scheduled backups every _14_ days

> > Save in [a USB flash drive location]
> > x Ask me before backing up each time*
> > x Compress Backup Files
> > Keep only the _2_most recent backup files [adjust to taste,
> > > Then periodically, perhaps once per month or more, copy your latest

> > backup (uniquely named by Money) to a CDR. With XP, this can be a
> > copy and paste operation. Otherwise use the burning software that
> > came with your CDR drive.
> > > I strongly suggest use of a USB Flash drive rather than floppies.

> > They are bigger, so you don't have to swap media to back up. Plus
> > they are much more reliable (but not failure-proof).
> > > * The reason I have Money ask me, is that I don't want to back up

> > each time I exit. If I went into Money 5 times in a day, I would
> > not want to back up 5 times, nor would I want to delete 5 other
> > backup files. You will be given the choice to BackUpNow or to
> > Postpone.
> > Thank you. I have set my program to those settings. I also deleted all old

> backups. I will see if this helps. The version of Money Plus I am using is:
> 17.0.150.727. I should also have mentioned that I am using Vista Home Premium.

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Old 12-04-2007, 04:25 PM
david_at_houston
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"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, david_at_houston wrote:
> > > > "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:
> > > > In microsoft.public.money, david_at_houston wrote:
> > > > > > Money is supposed to automatically delete old backups. However, mine keeps
> > > > adding new backups without deleting the old ones. I have entered various
> > > > numbers of "to save" backups in the drop down box, with no luck.
> > > > > It sounds as if you are using Money 2006 or 2007 and backing up to a
> > > removable drive. Is that correct?
> > > Yes. I am using Money Plus Business and Home, the most recent version. I

> > have it set to automatically backup to both my hard drive and a flash drive.
> > Should I make a change?
> > Thanks for your quick reply.

> That problem you are describing should not occur in Money Plus. What
> is your version when you do Help-> About?
> What Money will do if you choose N backups, is to back up to the
> specified media, and then if there are more than N backups with the
> same name pattern, to delete the (N+1)th entry. So if N is 4, and
> there were 4 existing backups, backup would add a new one, and then
> delete the 5th oldest. If N is 4 and there are already 5 backups,
> there will still be 5 after backup. Backup adds one, and then
> deletes up to one file.
> Be sure that you don't already have too many matching backups before
> setting the amount.
> ------------------------------------ > In Money Plus: Tools-> Settings-> BackupSettings
> I suggest checking
> x Automatically backup my Money file every time I close Money
> Save in [a place on your hard drive ]
> x Ask me before backing up each time*
> x Compress Backup Files
> Keep only the _20_most recent backup files [adjust to taste]
> x Perform scheduled backups every _14_ days
> Save in [a USB flash drive location]
> x Ask me before backing up each time*
> x Compress Backup Files
> Keep only the _2_most recent backup files [adjust to taste,
> Then periodically, perhaps once per month or more, copy your latest
> backup (uniquely named by Money) to a CDR. With XP, this can be a
> copy and paste operation. Otherwise use the burning software that
> came with your CDR drive.
> I strongly suggest use of a USB Flash drive rather than floppies.
> They are bigger, so you don't have to swap media to back up. Plus
> they are much more reliable (but not failure-proof).
> * The reason I have Money ask me, is that I don't want to back up
> each time I exit. If I went into Money 5 times in a day, I would
> not want to back up 5 times, nor would I want to delete 5 other
> backup files. You will be given the choice to BackUpNow or to
> Postpone.

Thank you. I have set my program to those settings. I also deleted all old
backups. I will see if this helps. The version of Money Plus I am using is:
17.0.150.727. I should also have mentioned that I am using Vista Home Premium.
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:27 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, david_at_houston wrote:

- quote -

> "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:
> > In microsoft.public.money, david_at_houston wrote:
> > > > Money is supposed to automatically delete old backups. However, mine keeps
> > > adding new backups without deleting the old ones. I have entered various
> > > numbers of "to save" backups in the drop down box, with no luck.
> > > It sounds as if you are using Money 2006 or 2007 and backing up to a

> > removable drive. Is that correct?

> Yes. I am using Money Plus Business and Home, the most recent version. I
> have it set to automatically backup to both my hard drive and a flash drive.
> Should I make a change?
> Thanks for your quick reply.


That problem you are describing should not occur in Money Plus. What
is your version when you do Help-> About?

What Money will do if you choose N backups, is to back up to the
specified media, and then if there are more than N backups with the
same name pattern, to delete the (N+1)th entry. So if N is 4, and
there were 4 existing backups, backup would add a new one, and then
delete the 5th oldest. If N is 4 and there are already 5 backups,
there will still be 5 after backup. Backup adds one, and then
deletes up to one file.

Be sure that you don't already have too many matching backups before
setting the amount.

------------------------------------ In Money Plus: Tools-> Settings-> BackupSettings
I suggest checking
x Automatically backup my Money file every time I close Money
Save in [a place on your hard drive ]
x Ask me before backing up each time*
x Compress Backup Files
Keep only the _20_most recent backup files [adjust to taste]

x Perform scheduled backups every _14_ days
Save in [a USB flash drive location]
x Ask me before backing up each time*
x Compress Backup Files
Keep only the _2_most recent backup files [adjust to taste,

Then periodically, perhaps once per month or more, copy your latest
backup (uniquely named by Money) to a CDR. With XP, this can be a
copy and paste operation. Otherwise use the burning software that
came with your CDR drive.

I strongly suggest use of a USB Flash drive rather than floppies.
They are bigger, so you don't have to swap media to back up. Plus
they are much more reliable (but not failure-proof).

* The reason I have Money ask me, is that I don't want to back up
each time I exit. If I went into Money 5 times in a day, I would
not want to back up 5 times, nor would I want to delete 5 other
backup files. You will be given the choice to BackUpNow or to
Postpone.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:26 AM
david_at_houston
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"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, david_at_houston wrote:
> > Money is supposed to automatically delete old backups. However, mine keeps
> > adding new backups without deleting the old ones. I have entered various
> > numbers of "to save" backups in the drop down box, with no luck.

> It sounds as if you are using Money 2006 or 2007 and backing up to a
> removable drive. Is that correct?


Yes. I am using Money Plus Business and Home, the most recent version. I
have it set to automatically backup to both my hard drive and a flash drive.
Should I make a change?
Thanks for your quick reply.
 
Old 12-03-2007, 08:23 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, david_at_houston wrote:

- quote -

> Money is supposed to automatically delete old backups. However, mine keeps
> adding new backups without deleting the old ones. I have entered various
> numbers of "to save" backups in the drop down box, with no luck.


It sounds as if you are using Money 2006 or 2007 and backing up to a
removable drive. Is that correct?
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Old 12-03-2007, 08:06 PM
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Money is supposed to automatically delete old backups. However, mine keeps
adding new backups without deleting the old ones. I have entered various
numbers of "to save" backups in the drop down box, with no luck.
 

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