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Old 05-02-2008, 10:34 PM
Dr Nick
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Default Re: PEABODY/PATRIOT COAL SPIN-OFF WON'T RECORD



"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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> In microsoft.public.money, Paul Rekow wrote:
> > Hi JPG and Cal, I am having the same problem trying to record a spin-off. I
> > go through the wizard and when its done is says "can not perform operation".
> > I did both a quick repair and a level two repair with no luck.
> > > JPG, how did you enter the info manually? Thanks, Paul Rekow
> > > p.s. I am using 2006 Deluxe

> Money Plus Deluxe fixes the bug.


Money Plus Deluxe may fix the bug for some, but it does not fix it for me: I
get the same "cannot perform operation" message from the spinoff wizard.
Level 1 and 2 file repair, and removing bills data, do not help.

And since the spinoff is from an employee stock program, there are umpteen
lots to keep track of--manual entry is a major pain. If only there was a way
to actually look at Money's database.........
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Old 04-10-2008, 08:31 PM
mcc
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Default Re: Altria/Philip Morris SPIN-OFF WON'T RECORD either

I gave up on MS Money and did it manually. The missing piece of the puzzle
was the cost basis split between MO and PMI. My brokerage acct (TD
Ameritrade) uses "Gainskeeper" for cost basis and they had the info i needed
to dissect my initial buys of MO into both MO and PMI. Wasn't that bad to do
after all!

"JoeInWisconsin" wrote:

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> I have MM 2006 Standard and I also have Altria and have been waiting to see
> if Microsoft puts the Phillip Morris Intl into my account automatically. I
> have no problem doing it my self but I would be interested in knowing which
> spin-offs they take care of and which ones I have to do myself. I had a
> problem when Marshall and Illsley bank spun off Metavante Tech. They
> completely screwed it up and I had to reverse what they had done.

  #8  
Old 04-10-2008, 08:16 PM
JoeInWisconsin
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Default Re: Altria/Philip Morris SPIN-OFF WON'T RECORD either

I have MM 2006 Standard and I also have Altria and have been waiting to see
if Microsoft puts the Phillip Morris Intl into my account automatically. I
have no problem doing it my self but I would be interested in knowing which
spin-offs they take care of and which ones I have to do myself. I had a
problem when Marshall and Illsley bank spun off Metavante Tech. They
completely screwed it up and I had to reverse what they had done.

"mcc" <mcc[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
newsB6FCD92-AB45-43F7-A0BD-5BD0C79B1E01[at]microsoft.com...
- quote -

> version: Money 2006 Deluxe
> problem: same as others; get all the way through the data entry part only
> to
> be told "this operation cannot be performed"
> Been round and round with tech support (foreign-based, lady did not know
> what a spinoff was) telling me i need to upgrade to a newer version.
> Finally
> directed me to a KB article
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/179585
> which is still inaccurate.
> I will do a manual workaround and fix this myself
> a. return of capital
> b. manually adjust cost basis info for both MO and PM
> "Dick Watson" wrote:
> > Be thankful they fixed it in M+.
> > > I'm not a huge defender or anything, but I think the charge of "arrogance

> > at
> > its worst" that MS didn't go to the effort to back-propagate a fix for a
> > low
> > impact, rare problem (in the sense that very few users will ever see it)
> > is
> > a little over the top. The cost/complexity of testing the back level fix
> > and
> > the risk of problems posed by issuing the update easily exceed the
> > magnitude
> > of the problem. And that assumes that the code they fixed is 100%
> > traceable
> > through the heritage versions you'd have them fix. Name one software
> > vendor
> > that would do that in a product selling for $25 or less. Several versions
> > recently have never had an update issued of any kind.
> > > Heck, there are higher impact, pervasive (in the sense that most users

> > would
> > see it numerous times), problems in Money that went many versions without
> > being fixed much less did the fix get back-propagated. (Tax Estimator
> > garbled display comes immediately to mind.) And don't even get me started
> > on
> > Nuke-The-Bills.
> > > "JPG" <JPG[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:B9368974-99FE-4F6B-A5A2-0262CFA51ED1[at]microsoft.com...
> > > One has to wonder, if MS recognized that there is a bug in the spin-off
> > > procedure and fixed it in Money Plus, why wouldn't they issue updates
> > > to
> > > previous versions of the program to fix the bug? I should have to buy a
> > > new
> > > version of the program to get bug fixes? MS arrogance at its worst!!!

> >


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Old 04-02-2008, 06:32 PM
mcc
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Default Altria/Philip Morris SPIN-OFF WON'T RECORD either

version: Money 2006 Deluxe
problem: same as others; get all the way through the data entry part only to
be told "this operation cannot be performed"
Been round and round with tech support (foreign-based, lady did not know
what a spinoff was) telling me i need to upgrade to a newer version. Finally
directed me to a KB article
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/179585
which is still inaccurate.

I will do a manual workaround and fix this myself
a. return of capital
b. manually adjust cost basis info for both MO and PM


"Dick Watson" wrote:

- quote -

> Be thankful they fixed it in M+.
> I'm not a huge defender or anything, but I think the charge of "arrogance at
> its worst" that MS didn't go to the effort to back-propagate a fix for a low
> impact, rare problem (in the sense that very few users will ever see it) is
> a little over the top. The cost/complexity of testing the back level fix and
> the risk of problems posed by issuing the update easily exceed the magnitude
> of the problem. And that assumes that the code they fixed is 100% traceable
> through the heritage versions you'd have them fix. Name one software vendor
> that would do that in a product selling for $25 or less. Several versions
> recently have never had an update issued of any kind.
> Heck, there are higher impact, pervasive (in the sense that most users would
> see it numerous times), problems in Money that went many versions without
> being fixed much less did the fix get back-propagated. (Tax Estimator
> garbled display comes immediately to mind.) And don't even get me started on
> Nuke-The-Bills.
> "JPG" <JPG[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B9368974-99FE-4F6B-A5A2-0262CFA51ED1[at]microsoft.com...
> > One has to wonder, if MS recognized that there is a bug in the spin-off
> > procedure and fixed it in Money Plus, why wouldn't they issue updates to
> > previous versions of the program to fix the bug? I should have to buy a
> > new
> > version of the program to get bug fixes? MS arrogance at its worst!!!

  #6  
Old 01-07-2008, 04:34 AM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: PEABODY/PATRIOT COAL SPIN-OFF WON'T RECORD

Be thankful they fixed it in M+.

I'm not a huge defender or anything, but I think the charge of "arrogance at
its worst" that MS didn't go to the effort to back-propagate a fix for a low
impact, rare problem (in the sense that very few users will ever see it) is
a little over the top. The cost/complexity of testing the back level fix and
the risk of problems posed by issuing the update easily exceed the magnitude
of the problem. And that assumes that the code they fixed is 100% traceable
through the heritage versions you'd have them fix. Name one software vendor
that would do that in a product selling for $25 or less. Several versions
recently have never had an update issued of any kind.

Heck, there are higher impact, pervasive (in the sense that most users would
see it numerous times), problems in Money that went many versions without
being fixed much less did the fix get back-propagated. (Tax Estimator
garbled display comes immediately to mind.) And don't even get me started on
Nuke-The-Bills.

"JPG" <JPG[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B9368974-99FE-4F6B-A5A2-0262CFA51ED1[at]microsoft.com...
- quote -

> One has to wonder, if MS recognized that there is a bug in the spin-off
> procedure and fixed it in Money Plus, why wouldn't they issue updates to
> previous versions of the program to fix the bug? I should have to buy a
> new
> version of the program to get bug fixes? MS arrogance at its worst!!!


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Old 01-07-2008, 03:15 AM
JPG
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Default Re: PEABODY/PATRIOT COAL SPIN-OFF WON'T RECORD

Paul, I entered the transaction as a return of capital from Peabody and used
that amount to "buy" the applicable number of Patriot Coal shares.

One has to wonder, if MS recognized that there is a bug in the spin-off
procedure and fixed it in Money Plus, why wouldn't they issue updates to
previous versions of the program to fix the bug? I should have to buy a new
version of the program to get bug fixes? MS arrogance at its worst!!!

"Paul Rekow" wrote:

- quote -

> Hi JPG and Cal, I am having the same problem trying to record a spin-off. I
> go through the wizard and when its done is says "can not perform operation".
> I did both a quick repair and a level two repair with no luck.
> JPG, how did you enter the info manually? Thanks, Paul Rekow
> p.s. I am using 2006 Deluxe
> "JPG" wrote:
> > No joy, Cal, with the Level2 file repair. Still wouldn't record the spin-off
> > using the wizard, so I just entered it manually. Thanks for suggestion,
> > however.
> > > "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:
> > > > In microsoft.public.money, JPG wrote:
> > > > > > Using Money 2007 Premium and I am finding it impossible to record the
> > > > spin-off of Patriot Coal from Peabody Energy. After entering all of the
> > > > information in the various pop-up windows to record a spin-off, I get an
> > > > error window from Money simply saying "The operation cannot be performed."
> > > > Have entered other spin-offs in the past without encountering this problem.
> > > > Same result whether I specify to retain fractional shares or exchange for
> > > > cash. Anybody experiencing a similar problem? Any solution?
> > > > > I would do File-> RepairMoneyFile-> StandardFileRepair level 2 to make
> > > a repaired version of your file.
> > > > > Also, Money 2007 has a bug where the spinoff can affect the cash
> > > account where it should not. If that happens, make a compensating
> > > cash deposit to account for the difference.

> >
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:00 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: PEABODY/PATRIOT COAL SPIN-OFF WON'T RECORD

In microsoft.public.money, Paul Rekow wrote:

- quote -

> Hi JPG and Cal, I am having the same problem trying to record a spin-off. I
> go through the wizard and when its done is says "can not perform operation".
> I did both a quick repair and a level two repair with no luck.
> JPG, how did you enter the info manually? Thanks, Paul Rekow
> p.s. I am using 2006 Deluxe


Money Plus Deluxe fixes the bug.


- quote -

> "JPG" wrote:
> > No joy, Cal, with the Level2 file repair. Still wouldn't record the spin-off
> > using the wizard, so I just entered it manually. Thanks for suggestion,
> > however.
> > > "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:
> > > > In microsoft.public.money, JPG wrote:
> > > > > > Using Money 2007 Premium and I am finding it impossible to record the
> > > > spin-off of Patriot Coal from Peabody Energy. After entering all of the
> > > > information in the various pop-up windows to record a spin-off, I get an
> > > > error window from Money simply saying "The operation cannot be performed."
> > > > Have entered other spin-offs in the past without encountering this problem.
> > > > Same result whether I specify to retain fractional shares or exchange for
> > > > cash. Anybody experiencing a similar problem? Any solution?
> > > > > I would do File-> RepairMoneyFile-> StandardFileRepair level 2 to make
> > > a repaired version of your file.
> > > > > Also, Money 2007 has a bug where the spinoff can affect the cash
> > > account where it should not. If that happens, make a compensating
> > > cash deposit to account for the difference.

> >
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Old 01-03-2008, 08:02 PM
Paul Rekow
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Default Re: PEABODY/PATRIOT COAL SPIN-OFF WON'T RECORD

Hi JPG and Cal, I am having the same problem trying to record a spin-off. I
go through the wizard and when its done is says "can not perform operation".
I did both a quick repair and a level two repair with no luck.

JPG, how did you enter the info manually? Thanks, Paul Rekow

p.s. I am using 2006 Deluxe

"JPG" wrote:

- quote -

> No joy, Cal, with the Level2 file repair. Still wouldn't record the spin-off
> using the wizard, so I just entered it manually. Thanks for suggestion,
> however.
> "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:
> > In microsoft.public.money, JPG wrote:
> > > > Using Money 2007 Premium and I am finding it impossible to record the
> > > spin-off of Patriot Coal from Peabody Energy. After entering all of the
> > > information in the various pop-up windows to record a spin-off, I get an
> > > error window from Money simply saying "The operation cannot be performed."
> > > Have entered other spin-offs in the past without encountering this problem.
> > > Same result whether I specify to retain fractional shares or exchange for
> > > cash. Anybody experiencing a similar problem? Any solution?
> > > I would do File-> RepairMoneyFile-> StandardFileRepair level 2 to make

> > a repaired version of your file.
> > > Also, Money 2007 has a bug where the spinoff can affect the cash

> > account where it should not. If that happens, make a compensating
> > cash deposit to account for the difference.

>
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:51 AM
JPG
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Default Re: PEABODY/PATRIOT COAL SPIN-OFF WON'T RECORD

No joy, Cal, with the Level2 file repair. Still wouldn't record the spin-off
using the wizard, so I just entered it manually. Thanks for suggestion,
however.

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, JPG wrote:
> > Using Money 2007 Premium and I am finding it impossible to record the
> > spin-off of Patriot Coal from Peabody Energy. After entering all of the
> > information in the various pop-up windows to record a spin-off, I get an
> > error window from Money simply saying "The operation cannot be performed."
> > Have entered other spin-offs in the past without encountering this problem.
> > Same result whether I specify to retain fractional shares or exchange for
> > cash. Anybody experiencing a similar problem? Any solution?

> I would do File-> RepairMoneyFile-> StandardFileRepair level 2 to make
> a repaired version of your file.
> Also, Money 2007 has a bug where the spinoff can affect the cash
> account where it should not. If that happens, make a compensating
> cash deposit to account for the difference.

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Old 11-03-2007, 09:53 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: PEABODY/PATRIOT COAL SPIN-OFF WON'T RECORD

In microsoft.public.money, Cal Learner-- MVP wrote:

- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, JPG wrote:
> > Using Money 2007 Premium and I am finding it impossible to record the
> > spin-off of Patriot Coal from Peabody Energy. After entering all of the
> > information in the various pop-up windows to record a spin-off, I get an
> > error window from Money simply saying "The operation cannot be performed."
> > Have entered other spin-offs in the past without encountering this problem.
> > Same result whether I specify to retain fractional shares or exchange for
> > cash. Anybody experiencing a similar problem? Any solution?

> I would do File-> RepairMoneyFile-> StandardFileRepair level 2 to make
> a repaired version of your file.
> Also, Money 2007 has a bug where the spinoff can affect the cash
> account where it should not. If that happens, make a compensating
> cash deposit to account for the difference.


Also, make sure you are really using Money 2007. Help-> About will
tell you.
 
Old 11-03-2007, 09:49 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: PEABODY/PATRIOT COAL SPIN-OFF WON'T RECORD

In microsoft.public.money, JPG wrote:

- quote -

> Using Money 2007 Premium and I am finding it impossible to record the
> spin-off of Patriot Coal from Peabody Energy. After entering all of the
> information in the various pop-up windows to record a spin-off, I get an
> error window from Money simply saying "The operation cannot be performed."
> Have entered other spin-offs in the past without encountering this problem.
> Same result whether I specify to retain fractional shares or exchange for
> cash. Anybody experiencing a similar problem? Any solution?


I would do File-> RepairMoneyFile-> StandardFileRepair level 2 to make
a repaired version of your file.

Also, Money 2007 has a bug where the spinoff can affect the cash
account where it should not. If that happens, make a compensating
cash deposit to account for the difference.
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Old 11-03-2007, 09:44 PM
JPG
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Default PEABODY/PATRIOT COAL SPIN-OFF WON'T RECORD

Using Money 2007 Premium and I am finding it impossible to record the
spin-off of Patriot Coal from Peabody Energy. After entering all of the
information in the various pop-up windows to record a spin-off, I get an
error window from Money simply saying "The operation cannot be performed."
Have entered other spin-offs in the past without encountering this problem.
Same result whether I specify to retain fractional shares or exchange for
cash. Anybody experiencing a similar problem? Any solution?
 

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