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Old 09-07-2007, 02:35 PM
MikeV06
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Default Re: M8 Installed But Ultrasoft To Ipaq Not

On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 02:26:00 -0700, Mike F wrote:

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> > Ultrasoft does not have a production version that will run on Window CE
> > devices. They handle the Palm just fine. It puzzles me why MS would want to
> > push customers to a vendor that is heavily not doing Window CE devices.
> > I'm not sure what this means - as a company with a mature and capable PalmOS

> product line, Ultrasoft has now put its efforts into developing a new WM/PPC
> product that is in a final public preview stage prior to release. How is this
> 'not doing Windows CE devices'?


One would have thought that they would have selected a company with a long
history of programming for Window CE devices. My expectations were of
having a working product available, not one still in beta:

http://www.microsoft.com/money/Money...ldDevices.mspx

Quote:
Take Money with you

Microsoft recommends you use Ultrasoft Money to synchronize your Microsoft
Money data with your Pocket PC, SmartPhone, Palm or Treo device.

Ultrasoft Money puts you in control of your finances when you're on the go.
It synchronizes your entries seamlessly and directly with Microsoft Money.
Simply connect your mobile device, and Ultrasoft Money does the rest. There
is no need to re-enter or import/export data, and your accounts are always
up to date.

Ultrasoft is working hard to get a production system up. However, the write
up above has no mention that the product is still in beta for Pocket PCs. I
got lost on the Ultrasoft site for a while trying to buy the product only
to end up on a page saying it was not yet available. I have been using
Pocket PC for as long as I can remember, I expected Ultrasoft to be ready
to go.

- quote -

> > In any event, Ultrasoft does have a preview (beta) version that one can
> > download that expires every two weeks.

> The current preview has a two week life, the previous one ran for about a
> month (I think).


The current version expires on 15 Sep 2007.

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> > The preview copy I downloaded and installed
> > (finally) is not ready for prime time. The install did not create needed
> > folders, the help file would not pop up because its name was misspelled,
> > the log file that might help was not available because of the missing
> > folder, and so on. Truely a pain in the rear. It took me several hours to
> > finally get it installed and the M08 downloaded to the ipaq and everything
> > sync'd. If you are going to try an install, leave yourself lots of time.
> > I'm not familiar with those problems. Looking on the Ultrasoft forum (and

> from personal experience on 2003 and WM6 devices) these have not been
> commonly reported or discussed. There have been some installation issues
> (mainly to do with with different AS and Device Centre versions) but nothing
> like you describe.
> There's certainly been nothing related to missing folders reported that I
> can remember so this sounds like something device related or a specific
> problem in your install.
> From my experience, it looks to be running quite well at the moment with
> nothing but a few niggles standing between it and release.


It is very nice that your experience did not encounter these problems. That
does not help me with my problems. I reported them with the hopes that
other users having the same issues would have a heads-up. BTW, I am using
an iPaq 2215 and Windows XP with all patches.

I have communicated the problems to David at Ultrasoft directly and
hopefully the information will help. However, I had not intended to be a
beta tester. As I said, from the description above I expected the install
to be a no brainer. That and their banning my email address tld (info)
because they believe it to be a spam problem caused me much frustration
until the early hours of the morning.

In defence of Ultrasoft, David has been very pleasant and wanted all the
details of the problems I encountered. I look forward to them releasing a
problem free production system.

Ultrasoft is installed and appears to be running. I have not yet used it
enough to know if it has any other "niggles" awaiting me.

Mike
 
Old 09-07-2007, 09:26 AM
Mike F
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Default RE: M8 Installed But Ultrasoft To Ipaq Not

- quote -

> Ultrasoft does not have a production version that will run on Window CE
> devices. They handle the Palm just fine. It puzzles me why MS would want to
> push customers to a vendor that is heavily not doing Window CE devices.

I'm not sure what this means - as a company with a mature and capable PalmOS
product line, Ultrasoft has now put its efforts into developing a new WM/PPC
product that is in a final public preview stage prior to release. How is this
'not doing Windows CE devices'?

- quote -

> In any event, Ultrasoft does have a preview (beta) version that one can
> download that expires every two weeks.

The current preview has a two week life, the previous one ran for about a
month (I think).

- quote -

> The preview copy I downloaded and installed
> (finally) is not ready for prime time. The install did not create needed
> folders, the help file would not pop up because its name was misspelled,
> the log file that might help was not available because of the missing
> folder, and so on. Truely a pain in the rear. It took me several hours to
> finally get it installed and the M08 downloaded to the ipaq and everything
> sync'd. If you are going to try an install, leave yourself lots of time.

I'm not familiar with those problems. Looking on the Ultrasoft forum (and
from personal experience on 2003 and WM6 devices) these have not been
commonly reported or discussed. There have been some installation issues
(mainly to do with with different AS and Device Centre versions) but nothing
like you describe.

There's certainly been nothing related to missing folders reported that I
can remember so this sounds like something device related or a specific
problem in your install.

From my experience, it looks to be running quite well at the moment with
nothing but a few niggles standing between it and release.
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Old 09-06-2007, 07:56 PM
MikeV06
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Default M8 Installed But Ultrasoft To Ipaq Not

Installed Money 08, brought in my M04 database and things seem to be
running OK. I did have a couple of downloaded bank transactions that got
confused about what was already in the register. A couple of recurring
payments for October got grabbed rather than processing the ones already in
the register. I did a quick repair and will watch what happens.

As most will know or find out, when one installs Money 08 one loses Pocket
PC. Instead, users are directed to go to Ultrasoft. Unfortunately,
Ultrasoft does not have a production version that will run on Window CE
devices. They handle the Palm just fine. It puzzles me why MS would want to
push customers to a vendor that is heavily not doing Window CE devices.

In any event, Ultrasoft does have a preview (beta) version that one can
download that expires every two weeks. They say the will have a production
version out fairly quickly. The preview copy I downloaded and installed
(finally) is not ready for prime time. The install did not create needed
folders, the help file would not pop up because its name was misspelled,
the log file that might help was not available because of the missing
folder, and so on. Truely a pain in the rear. It took me several hours to
finally get it installed and the M08 downloaded to the ipaq and everything
sync'd. If you are going to try an install, leave yourself lots of time.

It does appear to be finally installed and working, but I have done very
little with it other than to install it. I tried to register for customer
support, but the admin has banned my tld (.info) for user email addresses
due to his belief that all .info emails are spam. I have looked at roughly
200 spam attempts a day for some time that were rejected and not one of
them had an info tld. I finally used a throwaway mailinator address which
is what spammers can do anyway. The experience has not left me a fan of
Ultrasoft.

That brings me to my next question. Anyone of know of a Pocket PC type
program that will sync with M08 and runs on a Windows CE based ipaq?

Thanks.

Mike
 

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