In microsoft.public.money, ThinkRS232 wrote:

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Microsoft is aware. See
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...rkStatus.aspx?

Also note there are several other threads on this topic.

The problem that is described here is a serious problem.

1. I have a UMB HSA fund that goes back to 2002. This funds quote has always
been updated manually. Since Monday, all the update history now says
"online", and it no longer have the $1.00 par value. It has numbers like
4.05. It actually seem to be an interest rate as for 2002 we had values like
1.5 etc, while for 2007 we have values like 4.07. I am not sure why these
values changed since I do not have this security setup for online updates.

2. I have a fidelity mutual func FTEXX that updates electronically. These
values also reflect what I describe in (1). After scouring the Internet,
this is real problem that is affecting many users.

Please report to Microsoft.


--
WCSC (Willies Computer Software Co)
http://www.wcscnet.com


"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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Thanks for the fix Cal, it is much appreciated.


"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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On Aug 20, 9:47 am, "Marilyn & Bob" <Priv...[at]nospam.please> wrote:
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Thanks.

Just clarify one thing,

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In fact this proves that the changes going back 18 months were just
downloaded now.
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This does not prove what you assert, I meant that the changes I made
to correct erroneous quotes did now show up in the old file, proving
the data was kept in my file and not on some server. The old backups
had the erroneous quotes as well.

And regarding "you should accept the fact", why don't you just chill,
and worry about the problem and not coercing me into thinking what you
want me to think. It doesn't really matter does it? We are all here to
discuss what we see and think.

"don" <donawalt[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1187607186.562581.55210[at]r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
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That is exactly what happened. And many people over the last two days have
reported the same thing, you should accept the fact that that is what the
quote server did.


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In fact this proves that the changes going back 18 months were just
downloaded now.


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No the "problem" just happened and it has affected quotes going back 18
months.
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Peace,
BobJ

On Aug 19, 7:09 am, johnb...[at]hotmail.com wrote:
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Whatever - I thought it was important to note bad quotes started on a
daily basis in Dec. 2006 to now, and had not happened for years
before.

Are you saying the quote access mechanism in Money goes back and re-
updates prices for 9 months on my machine? I doubt that, especially
since the quotes are actually contained in my own Money file (I
confirmed this by making changes and going back to a backup file and
the changes are not there).

Maybe "this" problem just started, but "a" problem started in Dec.
2006.

On Aug 19, 6:23 am, don <donaw...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
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Just to clear up any confusion - the "problem" just started.
Subsequent quote updates may produce bad prices going back many
years. However, this is not to suggest there can't be incorrect
prices from updates or transaction entries prior to this "problem".

Regards,
JB

On Aug 18, 10:20 pm, Bill Becker
<BillBec...[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
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I confirm this also, as to what caused the problem. I checked my
system, the first problem with MM quotes not being a dollar was Dec.
2006. I have online quotes going all the way back to 2004.

Cal,
When I looked at the price history of my investments, all three of my MM
funds (FPRXX, FIMXX, VMMXX) had some prices that were not 1.00 and I have not
done an online update since 8/14. So I don't think that the problem started
with the 8/17 change.

Most of bogus values seem to appear quarterly and are values like 4.51 so
they seem to be yields, as you noted. But I also had a 0.58 and a 1.024 so
the problem may more complex than just grabbing the wrong data field once a
quarter.

Sure would be nice to get an acknowledgment from Microsoft that this is a
problem and that it will be fixed. Makes me wonder about the price histories
on my other investments.

Meanwhile, I've removed the MM funds from the update list as you recommended
and I continue to keep "Update Automatically" turned off.

--
Bill Becker
M2007 Windows XP Home SP2


"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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Correction:

I was wrong on the symptoms. The problem affects MMFs whether they
were created as MMFs or as Mutual Funds.

The workaround I suggest is to blank the symbol in the Details for
the fund and then delete any non-$1 prices from the list. You want
to have at least one $1 entry dated from before you first held that
fund. You could enter a new manual Update with a date from last
century.

Go to Investment-> Portfolio and right-click the fund. Choose
SeeInvestmentDetails. There you can blank out the symbol. You can
optionally add the symbol to the comments or rename the security to
incorporate the symbol in the name. Then, from the Details, click
PriceHistory-> UpdatedPrices-> UpdatedPricesManually.
Delete all of the non-$1 prices. This should not be too difficult
since the Delete button will autorepeat. If you have an older
version of Money, the navigation may be a little different.

This occurred during an update Friday evening that involved a quote
supplier change. I have seen a positive effect, but there is a
negative one that has popped up for some users. It appears that most
MMFs with a public symbol are now downloading a bogus (not $1) price
from the new quote server. If the 7-day annualized yield is 4.8%,
the price is downloaded as $4.80. This results in inflated portfolio
values.

In microsoft.public.money, Cal Learner-- MVP wrote:

Correction:
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That should have been to go to Investment-> Portfolio and right-click
the fund. Choose SeePriceHistory or SeeInvestmentDetails, depending
on where you want to go first. If you have an older version of
Money, the names may be a little different.

There was an update Friday evening that involved a quote server
change. I have seen a positive effect, but there is a negative one
that has popped up for some user. It appears that at most MMFs with
a public symbol that are set up as mutual funds, rather than Money
Market Funds (MMF), in Money are now downloading a bogus (not $1)
price from the new quote server. If the recent yield is 4.8%, the
price is downloaded as $4.80. This results in inflated portfolio
values.

The easiest workaround is to blank the symbol in the Details for the
fund and then delete any non-$1 prices from the list. Click
Investment-> Portfolio-> UpdatePrices-> UpdatePricesManually to get
there.

See the later parts of the thread
" Weird behavior in MSMoney 2007 Portfolio Manager" for discovery
and discussion of the issue.

If the MMF is set up as a MMF, then the problem does not seem to
appear; the price is fixed at $1. To make the change from Mutual
Fund to a Money Market fund is tedious and tricky if statements are
downloaded. The upside is a bonus: MMF transactions are not put onto
your schedule D (USA) when Money prepares your schedule D in
conjunction with TaxCut or TurboTax. The tax is the same, but the
schedule D is not filled up with a bunch of selling shares at $1
that you paid $1 for. Having Money fill in your schedule D is nice.