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 Re: Money Plus woes Hi Ed, It's the way I work with Money - I don't accept a transaction until I've reconciled it with a receipt. Sometimes, I save up receipts for too long before reconciling them as was this case... Take care, John "Ed Hansberry, MS-MVP/Mobile Devices" <spamfree-silvernino[at]hotmail.spambegone.com> wrote in message news:vs71d354mf6gjogembn3gq0f57e3m71avk[at]4ax.com... - quote - > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote: > > Apparently, my slowdown is due in large part to the amound of unaccepted > > transactions (125+) I currently have. Accepting all transactions greatly > > improves performance. So I think that because of the large amount of time > > it takes to process online transactions with my Money file, it is showing > > that there can be timing issues. Namely: > Why would you have so many unaccepted transactions? I always > accept within 24 hrs, usually within minutes but sometimes I need > my paystub to tie my paycheck out before I accept those direct > deposits. > > 1) If Money starts processing online transactions in the account with a > > large number of unaccepted transactions before processing Service Updates, > > the processing Service Update Money window will hang until the online > > transaction processing finishes. > > > 2) Running Insight with Money performing an online update can apparently > > lead to Insight looping after an online update. This will prevent Money > > from processing online updates. Of course, the Insight process might be > > actually processing the online transactions itself, I just don't know. > > Killing Insight, and performing another online update seems to fix the > > problem albeit rather slowly in my case. > > > YMMV... > > > -- John > > > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message > > news:enpk9pO4HHA.5880[at]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > I guess perhaps there are no ideas here... > > > > > I feel like Dick Watson now with M2006... > > > > > I will put a support call to MS... > > > I will try the nuke the bills again... > > > Then I guess I go back to M2007 :-( > > > > > -- John > > > > > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message > > > news:e5FcQG73HHA.1184[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > I have a sinking feeling that I'm in trouble with this new version. It > > > > turns out that I still have a problem with online updates taking a long > > > > time. The reason why it seems to work after the first download is > > > > because there were no new transactions to download. However, after > > > > waiting a few day and then downloading, I still have the same problem. > > > > > > > Here's the sequence of events: > > > > > > > 1. Open Money and perform an online update. > > > > 2. Appeared to update properly but "Updating accounts" did not appear > > > > for > > > > each account like it normally does, just the first account. > > > > 3. After a moment, Insight starting spinning. Money claimed an online > > > > operation was still in progress each time I tried to change a match. > > > > 4. While Insight was spinning, Money did not say that it was "updating > > > > accounts"... > > > > 5. After a while I quit Insight from the tray icon. The icon went away > > > > but Insight kept spinning. > > > > 6. Leaving Money left Money running in the tray. > > > > > > > I killed Money and Insight. Then I restarted Money, restored it from > > > > the > > > > last version that worked, did a level 2 repair followed by a quick > > > > repair. Then I did a online update. After the update, it told me it > > > > was > > > > "updating accounts" and it took about a half hour to update. I also > > > > notice that trying to "change" a transaction's match takes a much > > > > longer > > > > time about 1 minute per transaction. > > > > > > > Do I need to do another "nuke the bills"? I did this for M2007 and got > > > > pretty good response times but it was a pain. > > > > > > > Any ideas would be appreciated. > > > > > > > -- John > > > > "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message > > > > news:fbdsb39v3thiirdeloqdi4iseperp7pnm5[at]4ax.com... > > > > > In microsoft.public.money, JohnA wrote: > > > > > > > > > > OK, I guess my 37M Money file just takes a long time (figure about > > > > > > 60-90 > > > > > > minutes) to do the first online update. It finally finished (Money > > > > > > file > > > > > > temporarily grew to 45.5M at the end of the update but went back to > > > > > > 37M > > > > > > after leaving Money). Subsequent updates appear to work fine. While > > > > > > there > > > > > > is a warning when upgrading a Money file that the first online update > > > > > > would > > > > > > take a bit longer than normal, I must say that I never thought it was > > > > > > that > > > > > > order of magnitude! I wonder if having Insights running during the > > > > > > first > > > > > > online update could not have exacerbated the original problem. This > > > > > > time I > > > > > > made sure Insights wasn't running and other than the long update there > > > > > > wasn't a problem. I turned Insights back on and it seems to work > > > > > > fine. > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info! > > > > > > > > > File-> RepairMoneyFile-> QuickFileRepair might shrink a bit further. > > > > > Maybe not, but it is safe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for the false alarm... but maybe someone else will be prevented > > > > > > from > > > > > > uninstalling this version and throwing it out the window like I was > > > > > > tempted > > > > > > to do! > > > > > > > > > > > -- John > > > > > > > > > > > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message > > > > > > news:u6no6fF3HHA.6128[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > Well, I went back to my M16 file and reconverted it. Problem goes > > > > > > > away > > > > > > > until the first online download in which case it ends up "updating > > > > > > > accounts" forever. I tried doing a quick repair after the > > > > > > > conversion > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > that had no affect. This is frustrating, to say the least. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- John > > > > > > > > > > > > > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:u7KNQoE3HHA.4184[at]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I upgraded to Microsoft Money Plus from Money 2007. Didn't seem to > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > a problem. When I did an online update, it worked fine the first > > > > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > All updates finished as normal and accounts seemed to update > > > > > > > > properly. I > > > > > > > > did a save of this money file. The second time I did an online > > > > > > > > update, > > > > > > > > Money hung in Service Updates and the account update spinner kept > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > turning. After a long time of nothing and money using up 100% of > > > > > > > > CPU > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > constantly I killed the money process and restarted it. Now the > > > > > > > > account > > > > > > > > update spinner keeps turning and CPU is at 100%. Future account > > > > > > > > updates > > > > > > > > don't work at all. I tried restoring from the the save and that > > > > > > > > seemed > > > > > > > > to work but money immediately went into the accounts update spin. > > > > > > > > I'm > > > > > > > > running out of ideas, would appreciate any help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > __________________________________________________ ________________________________ > Ed Hansberry (Please do *NOT* email me. Post here for the benefit of all) > What is on my Pocket PC? http://www.ehansberry.com/ > Microsoft MVP - Mobile Devices www.pocketpc.com > What is an MVP? - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ |
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08-25-2007, 09:32 PM
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| Re: Money Plus woes "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote: - quote - > Apparently, my slowdown is due in large part to the amound of unaccepted
Why would you have so many unaccepted transactions? I always> transactions (125+) I currently have. Accepting all transactions greatly > improves performance. So I think that because of the large amount of time > it takes to process online transactions with my Money file, it is showing > that there can be timing issues. Namely: accept within 24 hrs, usually within minutes but sometimes I need my paystub to tie my paycheck out before I accept those direct deposits. - quote - > 1) If Money starts processing online transactions in the account with a
Ed Hansberry (Please do *NOT* email me. Post here for the benefit of all)> large number of unaccepted transactions before processing Service Updates, > the processing Service Update Money window will hang until the online > transaction processing finishes. > 2) Running Insight with Money performing an online update can apparently > lead to Insight looping after an online update. This will prevent Money > from processing online updates. Of course, the Insight process might be > actually processing the online transactions itself, I just don't know. > Killing Insight, and performing another online update seems to fix the > problem albeit rather slowly in my case. > YMMV... > -- John > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message > news:enpk9pO4HHA.5880[at]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > I guess perhaps there are no ideas here... > > > I feel like Dick Watson now with M2006... > > > I will put a support call to MS... > > I will try the nuke the bills again... > > Then I guess I go back to M2007 :-( > > > -- John > > > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message > > news:e5FcQG73HHA.1184[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > Hi, > > > > > I have a sinking feeling that I'm in trouble with this new version. It > > > turns out that I still have a problem with online updates taking a long > > > time. The reason why it seems to work after the first download is > > > because there were no new transactions to download. However, after > > > waiting a few day and then downloading, I still have the same problem. > > > > > Here's the sequence of events: > > > > > 1. Open Money and perform an online update. > > > 2. Appeared to update properly but "Updating accounts" did not appear for > > > each account like it normally does, just the first account. > > > 3. After a moment, Insight starting spinning. Money claimed an online > > > operation was still in progress each time I tried to change a match. > > > 4. While Insight was spinning, Money did not say that it was "updating > > > accounts"... > > > 5. After a while I quit Insight from the tray icon. The icon went away > > > but Insight kept spinning. > > > 6. Leaving Money left Money running in the tray. > > > > > I killed Money and Insight. Then I restarted Money, restored it from the > > > last version that worked, did a level 2 repair followed by a quick > > > repair. Then I did a online update. After the update, it told me it was > > > "updating accounts" and it took about a half hour to update. I also > > > notice that trying to "change" a transaction's match takes a much longer > > > time about 1 minute per transaction. > > > > > Do I need to do another "nuke the bills"? I did this for M2007 and got > > > pretty good response times but it was a pain. > > > > > Any ideas would be appreciated. > > > > > -- John > > > "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message > > > news:fbdsb39v3thiirdeloqdi4iseperp7pnm5[at]4ax.com... > > > > In microsoft.public.money, JohnA wrote: > > > > > > > > OK, I guess my 37M Money file just takes a long time (figure about 60-90 > > > > > minutes) to do the first online update. It finally finished (Money file > > > > > temporarily grew to 45.5M at the end of the update but went back to 37M > > > > > after leaving Money). Subsequent updates appear to work fine. While > > > > > there > > > > > is a warning when upgrading a Money file that the first online update > > > > > would > > > > > take a bit longer than normal, I must say that I never thought it was > > > > > that > > > > > order of magnitude! I wonder if having Insights running during the > > > > > first > > > > > online update could not have exacerbated the original problem. This > > > > > time I > > > > > made sure Insights wasn't running and other than the long update there > > > > > wasn't a problem. I turned Insights back on and it seems to work fine. > > > > > > > Thanks for the info! > > > > > > > File-> RepairMoneyFile-> QuickFileRepair might shrink a bit further. > > > > Maybe not, but it is safe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for the false alarm... but maybe someone else will be prevented > > > > > from > > > > > uninstalling this version and throwing it out the window like I was > > > > > tempted > > > > > to do! > > > > > > > > > -- John > > > > > > > > > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message > > > > > news:u6no6fF3HHA.6128[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > > > Well, I went back to my M16 file and reconverted it. Problem goes > > > > > > away > > > > > > until the first online download in which case it ends up "updating > > > > > > accounts" forever. I tried doing a quick repair after the conversion > > > > > > but > > > > > > that had no affect. This is frustrating, to say the least. > > > > > > > > > > > -- John > > > > > > > > > > > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message > > > > > > news:u7KNQoE3HHA.4184[at]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > I upgraded to Microsoft Money Plus from Money 2007. Didn't seem to > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > a problem. When I did an online update, it worked fine the first > > > > > > > time. > > > > > > > All updates finished as normal and accounts seemed to update > > > > > > > properly. I > > > > > > > did a save of this money file. The second time I did an online > > > > > > > update, > > > > > > > Money hung in Service Updates and the account update spinner kept on > > > > > > > turning. After a long time of nothing and money using up 100% of CPU > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > constantly I killed the money process and restarted it. Now the > > > > > > > account > > > > > > > update spinner keeps turning and CPU is at 100%. Future account > > > > > > > updates > > > > > > > don't work at all. I tried restoring from the the save and that > > > > > > > seemed > > > > > > > to work but money immediately went into the accounts update spin. > > > > > > > I'm > > > > > > > running out of ideas, would appreciate any help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- __________________________________________________ ________________________________ What is on my Pocket PC? http://www.ehansberry.com/ Microsoft MVP - Mobile Devices www.pocketpc.com What is an MVP? - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ |
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08-18-2007, 05:46 AM
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| Re: Money Plus woes Apparently, my slowdown is due in large part to the amound of unaccepted transactions (125+) I currently have. Accepting all transactions greatly improves performance. So I think that because of the large amount of time it takes to process online transactions with my Money file, it is showing that there can be timing issues. Namely: 1) If Money starts processing online transactions in the account with a large number of unaccepted transactions before processing Service Updates, the processing Service Update Money window will hang until the online transaction processing finishes. 2) Running Insight with Money performing an online update can apparently lead to Insight looping after an online update. This will prevent Money from processing online updates. Of course, the Insight process might be actually processing the online transactions itself, I just don't know. Killing Insight, and performing another online update seems to fix the problem albeit rather slowly in my case. YMMV... -- John "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message news:enpk9pO4HHA.5880[at]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... - quote - > I guess perhaps there are no ideas here... > I feel like Dick Watson now with M2006... > I will put a support call to MS... > I will try the nuke the bills again... > Then I guess I go back to M2007 :-( > -- John > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message > news:e5FcQG73HHA.1184[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > Hi, > > > I have a sinking feeling that I'm in trouble with this new version. It > > turns out that I still have a problem with online updates taking a long > > time. The reason why it seems to work after the first download is > > because there were no new transactions to download. However, after > > waiting a few day and then downloading, I still have the same problem. > > > Here's the sequence of events: > > > 1. Open Money and perform an online update. > > 2. Appeared to update properly but "Updating accounts" did not appear for > > each account like it normally does, just the first account. > > 3. After a moment, Insight starting spinning. Money claimed an online > > operation was still in progress each time I tried to change a match. > > 4. While Insight was spinning, Money did not say that it was "updating > > accounts"... > > 5. After a while I quit Insight from the tray icon. The icon went away > > but Insight kept spinning. > > 6. Leaving Money left Money running in the tray. > > > I killed Money and Insight. Then I restarted Money, restored it from the > > last version that worked, did a level 2 repair followed by a quick > > repair. Then I did a online update. After the update, it told me it was > > "updating accounts" and it took about a half hour to update. I also > > notice that trying to "change" a transaction's match takes a much longer > > time about 1 minute per transaction. > > > Do I need to do another "nuke the bills"? I did this for M2007 and got > > pretty good response times but it was a pain. > > > Any ideas would be appreciated. > > > -- John > > "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message > > news:fbdsb39v3thiirdeloqdi4iseperp7pnm5[at]4ax.com... > > > In microsoft.public.money, JohnA wrote: > > > > > > OK, I guess my 37M Money file just takes a long time (figure about 60-90 > > > > minutes) to do the first online update. It finally finished (Money file > > > > temporarily grew to 45.5M at the end of the update but went back to 37M > > > > after leaving Money). Subsequent updates appear to work fine. While > > > > there > > > > is a warning when upgrading a Money file that the first online update > > > > would > > > > take a bit longer than normal, I must say that I never thought it was > > > > that > > > > order of magnitude! I wonder if having Insights running during the > > > > first > > > > online update could not have exacerbated the original problem. This > > > > time I > > > > made sure Insights wasn't running and other than the long update there > > > > wasn't a problem. I turned Insights back on and it seems to work fine. > > > > > Thanks for the info! > > > > > File-> RepairMoneyFile-> QuickFileRepair might shrink a bit further. > > > Maybe not, but it is safe. > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for the false alarm... but maybe someone else will be prevented > > > > from > > > > uninstalling this version and throwing it out the window like I was > > > > tempted > > > > to do! > > > > > > > -- John > > > > > > > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message > > > > news:u6no6fF3HHA.6128[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > > Well, I went back to my M16 file and reconverted it. Problem goes > > > > > away > > > > > until the first online download in which case it ends up "updating > > > > > accounts" forever. I tried doing a quick repair after the conversion > > > > > but > > > > > that had no affect. This is frustrating, to say the least. > > > > > > > > > -- John > > > > > > > > > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message > > > > > news:u7KNQoE3HHA.4184[at]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > I upgraded to Microsoft Money Plus from Money 2007. Didn't seem to > > > > > > have > > > > > > a problem. When I did an online update, it worked fine the first > > > > > > time. > > > > > > All updates finished as normal and accounts seemed to update > > > > > > properly. I > > > > > > did a save of this money file. The second time I did an online > > > > > > update, > > > > > > Money hung in Service Updates and the account update spinner kept on > > > > > > turning. After a long time of nothing and money using up 100% of CPU > > > > > > time > > > > > > constantly I killed the money process and restarted it. Now the > > > > > > account > > > > > > update spinner keeps turning and CPU is at 100%. Future account > > > > > > updates > > > > > > don't work at all. I tried restoring from the the save and that > > > > > > seemed > > > > > > to work but money immediately went into the accounts update spin. > > > > > > I'm > > > > > > running out of ideas, would appreciate any help. > > > > > > > > > > > -- John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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08-17-2007, 04:20 PM
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| Re: Money Plus woes I guess perhaps there are no ideas here... I feel like Dick Watson now with M2006... I will put a support call to MS... I will try the nuke the bills again... Then I guess I go back to M2007 :-( -- John "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message news:e5FcQG73HHA.1184[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... - quote - > Hi, > I have a sinking feeling that I'm in trouble with this new version. It > turns out that I still have a problem with online updates taking a long > time. The reason why it seems to work after the first download is because > there were no new transactions to download. However, after waiting a few > day and then downloading, I still have the same problem. > Here's the sequence of events: > 1. Open Money and perform an online update. > 2. Appeared to update properly but "Updating accounts" did not appear for > each account like it normally does, just the first account. > 3. After a moment, Insight starting spinning. Money claimed an online > operation was still in progress each time I tried to change a match. > 4. While Insight was spinning, Money did not say that it was "updating > accounts"... > 5. After a while I quit Insight from the tray icon. The icon went away > but Insight kept spinning. > 6. Leaving Money left Money running in the tray. > I killed Money and Insight. Then I restarted Money, restored it from the > last version that worked, did a level 2 repair followed by a quick repair. > Then I did a online update. After the update, it told me it was "updating > accounts" and it took about a half hour to update. I also notice that > trying to "change" a transaction's match takes a much longer time about 1 > minute per transaction. > Do I need to do another "nuke the bills"? I did this for M2007 and got > pretty good response times but it was a pain. > Any ideas would be appreciated. > -- John > "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message > news:fbdsb39v3thiirdeloqdi4iseperp7pnm5[at]4ax.com... > > In microsoft.public.money, JohnA wrote: > > > > OK, I guess my 37M Money file just takes a long time (figure about 60-90 > > > minutes) to do the first online update. It finally finished (Money file > > > temporarily grew to 45.5M at the end of the update but went back to 37M > > > after leaving Money). Subsequent updates appear to work fine. While > > > there > > > is a warning when upgrading a Money file that the first online update > > > would > > > take a bit longer than normal, I must say that I never thought it was > > > that > > > order of magnitude! I wonder if having Insights running during the first > > > online update could not have exacerbated the original problem. This time > > > I > > > made sure Insights wasn't running and other than the long update there > > > wasn't a problem. I turned Insights back on and it seems to work fine. > > > Thanks for the info! > > > File-> RepairMoneyFile-> QuickFileRepair might shrink a bit further. > > Maybe not, but it is safe. > > > > > > > Sorry for the false alarm... but maybe someone else will be prevented > > > from > > > uninstalling this version and throwing it out the window like I was > > > tempted > > > to do! > > > > > -- John > > > > > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message > > > news:u6no6fF3HHA.6128[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > Well, I went back to my M16 file and reconverted it. Problem goes away > > > > until the first online download in which case it ends up "updating > > > > accounts" forever. I tried doing a quick repair after the conversion > > > > but > > > > that had no affect. This is frustrating, to say the least. > > > > > > > -- John > > > > > > > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message > > > > news:u7KNQoE3HHA.4184[at]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > I upgraded to Microsoft Money Plus from Money 2007. Didn't seem to > > > > > have > > > > > a problem. When I did an online update, it worked fine the first > > > > > time. > > > > > All updates finished as normal and accounts seemed to update properly. > > > > > I > > > > > did a save of this money file. The second time I did an online > > > > > update, > > > > > Money hung in Service Updates and the account update spinner kept on > > > > > turning. After a long time of nothing and money using up 100% of CPU > > > > > time > > > > > constantly I killed the money process and restarted it. Now the > > > > > account > > > > > update spinner keeps turning and CPU is at 100%. Future account > > > > > updates > > > > > don't work at all. I tried restoring from the the save and that > > > > > seemed > > > > > to work but money immediately went into the accounts update spin. I'm > > > > > running out of ideas, would appreciate any help. > > > > > > > > > -- John > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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08-16-2007, 03:00 AM
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| Re: Money Plus woes Hi, I have a sinking feeling that I'm in trouble with this new version. It turns out that I still have a problem with online updates taking a long time. The reason why it seems to work after the first download is because there were no new transactions to download. However, after waiting a few day and then downloading, I still have the same problem. Here's the sequence of events: 1. Open Money and perform an online update. 2. Appeared to update properly but "Updating accounts" did not appear for each account like it normally does, just the first account. 3. After a moment, Insight starting spinning. Money claimed an online operation was still in progress each time I tried to change a match. 4. While Insight was spinning, Money did not say that it was "updating accounts"... 5. After a while I quit Insight from the tray icon. The icon went away but Insight kept spinning. 6. Leaving Money left Money running in the tray. I killed Money and Insight. Then I restarted Money, restored it from the last version that worked, did a level 2 repair followed by a quick repair. Then I did a online update. After the update, it told me it was "updating accounts" and it took about a half hour to update. I also notice that trying to "change" a transaction's match takes a much longer time about 1 minute per transaction. Do I need to do another "nuke the bills"? I did this for M2007 and got pretty good response times but it was a pain. Any ideas would be appreciated. -- John "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message news:fbdsb39v3thiirdeloqdi4iseperp7pnm5[at]4ax.com... - quote - > In microsoft.public.money, JohnA wrote: > > OK, I guess my 37M Money file just takes a long time (figure about 60-90 > > minutes) to do the first online update. It finally finished (Money file > > temporarily grew to 45.5M at the end of the update but went back to 37M > > after leaving Money). Subsequent updates appear to work fine. While > > there > > is a warning when upgrading a Money file that the first online update > > would > > take a bit longer than normal, I must say that I never thought it was that > > order of magnitude! I wonder if having Insights running during the first > > online update could not have exacerbated the original problem. This time > > I > > made sure Insights wasn't running and other than the long update there > > wasn't a problem. I turned Insights back on and it seems to work fine. > Thanks for the info! > File-> RepairMoneyFile-> QuickFileRepair might shrink a bit further. > Maybe not, but it is safe. > > > Sorry for the false alarm... but maybe someone else will be prevented from > > uninstalling this version and throwing it out the window like I was > > tempted > > to do! > > > -- John > > > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message > > news:u6no6fF3HHA.6128[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > Well, I went back to my M16 file and reconverted it. Problem goes away > > > until the first online download in which case it ends up "updating > > > accounts" forever. I tried doing a quick repair after the conversion > > > but > > > that had no affect. This is frustrating, to say the least. > > > > > -- John > > > > > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message > > > news:u7KNQoE3HHA.4184[at]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > I upgraded to Microsoft Money Plus from Money 2007. Didn't seem to > > > > have > > > > a problem. When I did an online update, it worked fine the first time. > > > > All updates finished as normal and accounts seemed to update properly. > > > > I > > > > did a save of this money file. The second time I did an online update, > > > > Money hung in Service Updates and the account update spinner kept on > > > > turning. After a long time of nothing and money using up 100% of CPU > > > > time > > > > constantly I killed the money process and restarted it. Now the > > > > account > > > > update spinner keeps turning and CPU is at 100%. Future account > > > > updates > > > > don't work at all. I tried restoring from the the save and that seemed > > > > to work but money immediately went into the accounts update spin. I'm > > > > running out of ideas, would appreciate any help. > > > > > > > -- John > > > > > > > > |
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08-15-2007, 05:27 PM
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| Re: Money Plus woes Mine is around 8M. Perhaps it's because I do not use some of the features, like budget. etc. or manage less accounts; not sure. I have current year and previous year. I archive and zip all others to store on CD. In my prior post, I was comparing the 45M to my 8M, but now realize some folks have data files that are even larger. I've been using MS Money for many years and have always upgraded with data file conversion. Daniel T <dth[at]XNOSPAMXhotsheet.com> wrote: - quote - > 44M is a huge Money file. Have you considered archiving some prior > years? |
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08-15-2007, 12:43 PM
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| Re: Money Plus woes 44M is not a particularly huge file. Mine is 60.9MB. Archiving is specifically recommended against by many here, myself included. See this thread and posting for some results from the last time I experimented with it: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...0e082c12c2a6dc "Daniel T" <dth[at]XNOSPAMXhotsheet.com> wrote in message news:uv85c3p36oka2ktbgbcpj7lhqo7m550sa8[at]4ax.com... - quote - > 44M is a huge Money file. Have you considered archiving some prior > years? |
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08-15-2007, 09:30 AM
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| Re: Money Plus woes Daniel T <dth[at]XNOSPAMXhotsheet.com> wrote: - quote - > 44M is a huge Money file. Have you considered archiving some prior
Mine is 53MB and I don't have that churn.> years? -- __________________________________________________ ________________________________ Ed Hansberry (Please do *NOT* email me. Post here for the benefit of all) What is on my Pocket PC? http://www.ehansberry.com/ Microsoft MVP - Mobile Devices www.pocketpc.com What is an MVP? - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ |
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08-15-2007, 08:15 AM
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| Re: Money Plus woes See http://financialsoft.about.com/od/ms...ArchiveAdv.htm and http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=29 for reasons not to archive. .. "Daniel T" <dth[at]XNOSPAMXhotsheet.com> wrote in message news:uv85c3p36oka2ktbgbcpj7lhqo7m550sa8[at]4ax.com... - quote - > 44M is a huge Money file. Have you considered archiving some prior > years? |
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08-15-2007, 07:00 AM
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| Re: Money Plus woes 44M is a huge Money file. Have you considered archiving some prior years? |
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08-13-2007, 02:08 PM
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| Re: Money Plus woes No, I have never used a Windows Live/Passport login with Money... also there was no network activity going on, just CPU churning... -- John "Ed Hansberry, MS-MVP/Mobile Devices" <spamfree-silvernino[at]hotmail.spambegone.com> wrote in message news:srd0c3hj6r2tv86ck5hlqvsms232o31l4c[at]4ax.com... - quote - > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote: > > OK, I guess my 37M Money file just takes a long time (figure about 60-90 > > minutes) to do the first online update. It finally finished (Money file > > temporarily grew to 45.5M at the end of the update but went back to 37M > > after leaving Money). Subsequent updates appear to work fine. While > > there > > is a warning when upgrading a Money file that the first online update > > would > > take a bit longer than normal, I must say that I never thought it was that > > order of magnitude! I wonder if having Insights running during the first > > online update could not have exacerbated the original problem. This time > > I > > made sure Insights wasn't running and other than the long update there > > wasn't a problem. I turned Insights back on and it seems to work fine. > > > Sorry for the false alarm... but maybe someone else will be prevented from > > uninstalling this version and throwing it out the window like I was > > tempted > > to do! > Are you using a Windows Live password for your file? Did it > upload your file to the MSN Money site? > > -- John > > > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message > > news:u6no6fF3HHA.6128[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > Well, I went back to my M16 file and reconverted it. Problem goes away > > > until the first online download in which case it ends up "updating > > > accounts" forever. I tried doing a quick repair after the conversion > > > but > > > that had no affect. This is frustrating, to say the least. > > > > > -- John > > > > > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message > > > news:u7KNQoE3HHA.4184[at]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > I upgraded to Microsoft Money Plus from Money 2007. Didn't seem to > > > > have > > > > a problem. When I did an online update, it worked fine the first time. > > > > All updates finished as normal and accounts seemed to update properly. > > > > I > > > > did a save of this money file. The second time I did an online update, > > > > Money hung in Service Updates and the account update spinner kept on > > > > turning. After a long time of nothing and money using up 100% of CPU > > > > time > > > > constantly I killed the money process and restarted it. Now the > > > > account > > > > update spinner keeps turning and CPU is at 100%. Future account > > > > updates > > > > don't work at all. I tried restoring from the the save and that seemed > > > > to work but money immediately went into the accounts update spin. I'm > > > > running out of ideas, would appreciate any help. > > > > > > > -- John > > > > > > > > > -- > __________________________________________________ ________________________________ > Ed Hansberry (Please do *NOT* email me. Post here for the benefit of all) > What is on my Pocket PC? http://www.ehansberry.com/ > Microsoft MVP - Mobile Devices www.pocketpc.com > What is an MVP? - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ |
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08-13-2007, 10:51 AM
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| Re: Money Plus woes "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote: - quote - > OK, I guess my 37M Money file just takes a long time (figure about 60-90
Are you using a Windows Live password for your file? Did it> minutes) to do the first online update. It finally finished (Money file > temporarily grew to 45.5M at the end of the update but went back to 37M > after leaving Money). Subsequent updates appear to work fine. While there > is a warning when upgrading a Money file that the first online update would > take a bit longer than normal, I must say that I never thought it was that > order of magnitude! I wonder if having Insights running during the first > online update could not have exacerbated the original problem. This time I > made sure Insights wasn't running and other than the long update there > wasn't a problem. I turned Insights back on and it seems to work fine. > Sorry for the false alarm... but maybe someone else will be prevented from > uninstalling this version and throwing it out the window like I was tempted > to do! upload your file to the MSN Money site? - quote - > -- John
Ed Hansberry (Please do *NOT* email me. Post here for the benefit of all)> "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message > news:u6no6fF3HHA.6128[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > Well, I went back to my M16 file and reconverted it. Problem goes away > > until the first online download in which case it ends up "updating > > accounts" forever. I tried doing a quick repair after the conversion but > > that had no affect. This is frustrating, to say the least. > > > -- John > > > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message > > news:u7KNQoE3HHA.4184[at]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > > Hi, > > > > > I upgraded to Microsoft Money Plus from Money 2007. Didn't seem to have > > > a problem. When I did an online update, it worked fine the first time. > > > All updates finished as normal and accounts seemed to update properly. I > > > did a save of this money file. The second time I did an online update, > > > Money hung in Service Updates and the account update spinner kept on > > > turning. After a long time of nothing and money using up 100% of CPU time > > > constantly I killed the money process and restarted it. Now the account > > > update spinner keeps turning and CPU is at 100%. Future account updates > > > don't work at all. I tried restoring from the the save and that seemed > > > to work but money immediately went into the accounts update spin. I'm > > > running out of ideas, would appreciate any help. > > > > > -- John > > > > -- __________________________________________________ ________________________________ What is on my Pocket PC? http://www.ehansberry.com/ Microsoft MVP - Mobile Devices www.pocketpc.com What is an MVP? - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ |
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08-11-2007, 10:18 PM
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| Re: Money Plus woes In microsoft.public.money, JohnA wrote: - quote - > OK, I guess my 37M Money file just takes a long time (figure about 60-90
Thanks for the info!> minutes) to do the first online update. It finally finished (Money file > temporarily grew to 45.5M at the end of the update but went back to 37M > after leaving Money). Subsequent updates appear to work fine. While there > is a warning when upgrading a Money file that the first online update would > take a bit longer than normal, I must say that I never thought it was that > order of magnitude! I wonder if having Insights running during the first > online update could not have exacerbated the original problem. This time I > made sure Insights wasn't running and other than the long update there > wasn't a problem. I turned Insights back on and it seems to work fine. File-> RepairMoneyFile-> QuickFileRepair might shrink a bit further. Maybe not, but it is safe. - quote - > Sorry for the false alarm... but maybe someone else will be prevented from > uninstalling this version and throwing it out the window like I was tempted > to do! > -- John > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message > news:u6no6fF3HHA.6128[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > Well, I went back to my M16 file and reconverted it. Problem goes away > > until the first online download in which case it ends up "updating > > accounts" forever. I tried doing a quick repair after the conversion but > > that had no affect. This is frustrating, to say the least. > > > -- John > > > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message > > news:u7KNQoE3HHA.4184[at]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > > Hi, > > > > > I upgraded to Microsoft Money Plus from Money 2007. Didn't seem to have > > > a problem. When I did an online update, it worked fine the first time. > > > All updates finished as normal and accounts seemed to update properly. I > > > did a save of this money file. The second time I did an online update, > > > Money hung in Service Updates and the account update spinner kept on > > > turning. After a long time of nothing and money using up 100% of CPU time > > > constantly I killed the money process and restarted it. Now the account > > > update spinner keeps turning and CPU is at 100%. Future account updates > > > don't work at all. I tried restoring from the the save and that seemed > > > to work but money immediately went into the accounts update spin. I'm > > > running out of ideas, would appreciate any help. > > > > > -- John > > > > |
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08-11-2007, 10:15 PM
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| Re: Money Plus woes OK, I guess my 37M Money file just takes a long time (figure about 60-90 minutes) to do the first online update. It finally finished (Money file temporarily grew to 45.5M at the end of the update but went back to 37M after leaving Money). Subsequent updates appear to work fine. While there is a warning when upgrading a Money file that the first online update would take a bit longer than normal, I must say that I never thought it was that order of magnitude! I wonder if having Insights running during the first online update could not have exacerbated the original problem. This time I made sure Insights wasn't running and other than the long update there wasn't a problem. I turned Insights back on and it seems to work fine. Sorry for the false alarm... but maybe someone else will be prevented from uninstalling this version and throwing it out the window like I was tempted to do! -- John "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message news:u6no6fF3HHA.6128[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... - quote - > Well, I went back to my M16 file and reconverted it. Problem goes away > until the first online download in which case it ends up "updating > accounts" forever. I tried doing a quick repair after the conversion but > that had no affect. This is frustrating, to say the least. > -- John > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message > news:u7KNQoE3HHA.4184[at]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > Hi, > > > I upgraded to Microsoft Money Plus from Money 2007. Didn't seem to have > > a problem. When I did an online update, it worked fine the first time. > > All updates finished as normal and accounts seemed to update properly. I > > did a save of this money file. The second time I did an online update, > > Money hung in Service Updates and the account update spinner kept on > > turning. After a long time of nothing and money using up 100% of CPU time > > constantly I killed the money process and restarted it. Now the account > > update spinner keeps turning and CPU is at 100%. Future account updates > > don't work at all. I tried restoring from the the save and that seemed > > to work but money immediately went into the accounts update spin. I'm > > running out of ideas, would appreciate any help. > > > -- John > |
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08-11-2007, 09:22 PM
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| Re: Money Plus woes XP Pro SP2 "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message news:h29sb39963l19iq13eqldie2bikdjlv288[at]4ax.com... - quote - > In microsoft.public.money, JohnA wrote: > > Well, I went back to my M16 file and reconverted it. Problem goes away > > until the first online download in which case it ends up "updating > > accounts" > > forever. I tried doing a quick repair after the conversion but that had > > no > > affect. This is frustrating, to say the least. > While it may not be relevant to this, XP or Vista? > > > -- John > > > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message > > news:u7KNQoE3HHA.4184[at]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > > Hi, > > > > > I upgraded to Microsoft Money Plus from Money 2007. Didn't seem to have > > > a > > > problem. When I did an online update, it worked fine the first time. > > > All > > > updates finished as normal and accounts seemed to update properly. I > > > did > > > a save of this money file. The second time I did an online update, > > > Money > > > hung in Service Updates and the account update spinner kept on turning. > > > After a long time of nothing and money using up 100% of CPU time > > > constantly I killed the money process and restarted it. Now the account > > > update spinner keeps turning and CPU is at 100%. Future account updates > > > don't work at all. I tried restoring from the the save and that seemed > > > to > > > work but money immediately went into the accounts update spin. I'm > > > running out of ideas, would appreciate any help. > > > > > -- John > > > |
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08-11-2007, 09:06 PM
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| Re: Money Plus woes In microsoft.public.money, JohnA wrote: - quote - > Well, I went back to my M16 file and reconverted it. Problem goes away
While it may not be relevant to this, XP or Vista?> until the first online download in which case it ends up "updating accounts" > forever. I tried doing a quick repair after the conversion but that had no > affect. This is frustrating, to say the least. - quote - > -- John > "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message > news:u7KNQoE3HHA.4184[at]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > Hi, > > > I upgraded to Microsoft Money Plus from Money 2007. Didn't seem to have a > > problem. When I did an online update, it worked fine the first time. All > > updates finished as normal and accounts seemed to update properly. I did > > a save of this money file. The second time I did an online update, Money > > hung in Service Updates and the account update spinner kept on turning. > > After a long time of nothing and money using up 100% of CPU time > > constantly I killed the money process and restarted it. Now the account > > update spinner keeps turning and CPU is at 100%. Future account updates > > don't work at all. I tried restoring from the the save and that seemed to > > work but money immediately went into the accounts update spin. I'm > > running out of ideas, would appreciate any help. > > > -- John > |
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| Re: Money Plus woes Well, I went back to my M16 file and reconverted it. Problem goes away until the first online download in which case it ends up "updating accounts" forever. I tried doing a quick repair after the conversion but that had no affect. This is frustrating, to say the least. -- John "JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message news:u7KNQoE3HHA.4184[at]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... - quote - > Hi, > I upgraded to Microsoft Money Plus from Money 2007. Didn't seem to have a > problem. When I did an online update, it worked fine the first time. All > updates finished as normal and accounts seemed to update properly. I did > a save of this money file. The second time I did an online update, Money > hung in Service Updates and the account update spinner kept on turning. > After a long time of nothing and money using up 100% of CPU time > constantly I killed the money process and restarted it. Now the account > update spinner keeps turning and CPU is at 100%. Future account updates > don't work at all. I tried restoring from the the save and that seemed to > work but money immediately went into the accounts update spin. I'm > running out of ideas, would appreciate any help. > -- John |
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| Money Plus woes Hi, I upgraded to Microsoft Money Plus from Money 2007. Didn't seem to have a problem. When I did an online update, it worked fine the first time. All updates finished as normal and accounts seemed to update properly. I did a save of this money file. The second time I did an online update, Money hung in Service Updates and the account update spinner kept on turning. After a long time of nothing and money using up 100% of CPU time constantly I killed the money process and restarted it. Now the account update spinner keeps turning and CPU is at 100%. Future account updates don't work at all. I tried restoring from the the save and that seemed to work but money immediately went into the accounts update spin. I'm running out of ideas, would appreciate any help. -- John |
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