On Aug 11, 10:10?pm, "Dick Watson" <littlegreenge...[at]mind-enufalready-
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Just to add my two cents to Dick's, I have never bought the download
upgrade. I always go to Costco each year and purchase the disk at the
usual net cost of about $25. Been doing it for 11 years now and expect
to do it again around August 27th. Steve

I did read the whole paragraph. And I know it wasn't the main point of the
paragraph.

And I haven't waited for a rebate on Money in years, either. I was just
saying that $20-$25 is what an awful lot of reasonably careful shoppers have
been paying for the thing for a long time--many without the mickey mouse of
rebates. Back in the Mv4 and M97 era, many of us never paid a thing for it
as they couldn't give it away fast enough. All of which was my point in the
first instance. They don't make much money on it without giving upgraders an
extra break.

Now, as to it being "unfair" that new users pay the same as returning users,
isn't that kinda the same when you buy most anything? Why should software be
different? Especially now that it looks less and less like a product every
version and more and more like a subscription service? Heck, many magazines
go out of their way to try to keep renewing subscribers from getting as good
a deal as they offer new subscribers. Ditto cable companies and SatTV and
ISPs and so on.

The upgrade prices on premium priced software (Office, PhotoShop, etc.) are
probably there just to move more merch since they know there is a reluctance
to upgrade, especially at the higher price points. But Money is NOT at a
higher price point--if it's retailing for $25, Microsoft probably nets only
a couple of bucks after the cost of goods sold; one support call and they
are way upside down on the deal--and we've just come full circle.

"John Gallagher" <jgallagher11[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Dick,

Read the whole paragraph.

In it I stated that some places give you the rebate up front; those that
don't have a mail-in rebate. The net price is never $49.99.

This was not even the main point of the paragraph.

John G.

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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I've never paid anywhere near $50 for a copy of Deluxe.

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"John Gallagher" <jgallagher11[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Gamma tester?

Dick,

As a long-time user of Money, I am well aware of both of the facts I (and
you) mentioned.

Saying they have always done it regarding the UI does not make it right. I
am a big time supporter of MS but I do not understand why they set up UI
rules for others yet they break them within their own company. And, to be
honmest, I do not think the Money UI is that extraordinary that rules need
to be broken (plus it has not changed for several years). But that is just
my humble opinion.

As far as $20 or so out the door, noone buys anything less than Deluxe
($49.99) and some buy Premium ($79.99) or Home/Business ($89.99). Yes, I
know all come with mail-in rebates that bring them down $20 or $30. I also
know that some stores mark them down so you do not have to mail in a rebate.
What strikes me as unfair is that the same rebate goes to the new user as to
the one who supported the product for years. But, of course, this is not my
call to make.

FYI - I have already purchased M+ Deluxe at $39.99 with a $20 rebate via a
link from my previous version of Money. I am not sure if the additional $10
discount was for being a download customer, being an early adopter (or
perhaps even because I was a previous customer?)

John G.

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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Money has ALWAYS done its own thing with the UI. I'm not saying I approve or
disapprove, it's jus the way it is. Of course, Money has also always
targeted a pretty broad range of platforms in terms of the OS native UI.

And Money has never, that I recall, offered upgrade pricing. When you are
going out the door for $20 or so, there's just not that much room to work
with.

"John Gallagher" <jgallagher11[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Thanks Cal.

I do find it amazing that MS cannot follow its own UI rules in products such
as Money & Encarta.

I also have difficulty with the fact that they do not offer any update
consideration in their pricing.

John G.

"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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In microsoft.public.money, John Gallagher wrote:

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Your appearance desires have not been addressed. Changes are only
functional.

Last November I purchased M2007 Premium. Now I see M+ is now available.

My question:
I was not particularly thrilled with the non-compliance of Money with
Microsoft's own UI scheme in Vista. However, I coul.d not gripe since it was
out before Vista.

Is M+ just as non-compliant with Vista's UI or have they done something in
this area? If so, what?

I have not seen any screenshots and don't wish to deal with
download/install/uninstall/cross fingers that old version/old file still
works just to see what it looks like.

John G.