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Old 08-10-2007, 02:04 AM
Bruce.
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Default Re: Money Plus (AKA Money 2008)

"Carlos G" <spaceman13[at]KILLTHISbestmail.us> wrote in message
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> I find it amussing that the main "feature" is Insights. Money 97/99 had a
> great bill watcher that lived in the icon tray. I think with 01/02 its
> functionality started acting up, and by 04 they removed it. Now it's back!
> Sure, with speding and cash flow info, but what gives? Forward to the past!


They've run out of ideas. I guess that's why it's called Money Plus this
time instead of Money 2008. They have no idea what they'll do for 2009 so
they're dopping the year tag now.

Bruce.


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Old 08-10-2007, 01:21 AM
Carlos G
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I find it amussing that the main "feature" is Insights. Money 97/99 had
a great bill watcher that lived in the icon tray. I think with 01/02
its functionality started acting up, and by 04 they removed it. Now
it's back! Sure, with speding and cash flow info, but what gives?
Forward to the past!

Carlos


Cal Learner-- MVP wrote:
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> Money Plus (AKA Money 2008) has some useful improvements.
> The lead feature is the Insights, which will optionally watch for
> and display upcoming Bills, spending, and cash flow info. It is done
> using a single tray icon. It is completely optional and not pushy.

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Old 08-10-2007, 12:28 AM
Jeff M
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Other than the addition of insights, it's difficult to tell the
difference between Money 2007 and Money Plus (2008). I've found no
significant additions or changes to any of the functions that I
routinely use.

I have been tinkering a bit though and believe that the Investment
Performance module bug may have been fixed. In recent past versions,
if I added the Investment Performance module to the homepage, the
program would crash as has been reported by many in this forum. I've
added the module to 2008 and so far no problems. It would be
interesting to see if others who have had this problem confirm it is
now fixed.

Jeff

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Old 08-10-2007, 12:07 AM
Michael Gordon
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And, for good measure, a backup of the mny file doesn't include these
external ones.

--
Michael Gordon


"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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> And now it has that vital feature: associating a filename with a
> transaction so that all of those folks who want to save scanned receipts
> can have, more or less and probably for many, less, than they've been
> wishing for. Now these same folks can start complaining about moving
> and/or renaming and/or deleting these files and the link they stored in
> Money no longer being any good.



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Old 08-09-2007, 06:23 PM
Dick Watson
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Apparently not. I haven't explicitly tested it, but given the insignificance
of some of the things that have been discussed as great new features to M+,
I'm thinking we would have heard about this by now.

"sandstones" <deletejunkx[at]mail.com> wrote in message
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> I know it may be too much to ask that some of the historical
> deficiences be addressed, but does M08 by any change do anything to
> reallize that things like IRA distributions or other transfers from
> tax free accounts are taxable income?



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Old 08-09-2007, 04:04 PM
sandstones
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I know it may be too much to ask that some of the historical
deficiences be addressed, but does M08 by any change do anything to
reallize that things like IRA distributions or other transfers from
tax free accounts are taxable income?

SS

On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 14:11:56 -0500, Cal Learner-- MVP
<via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote:

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> In microsoft.public.money, Joe Guidera wrote:
> > My file size dropped by about 200K (not much). In terms of activation, the
> > prior version of Money (2007) also required activation (as I ran into the
> > limit when I had to re-install my machine). FYI: The activation server (it
> > appears) was mis-behaving around noon central time today.

> You have 60 days to activate.
> > > Did you run into issues with Money and the activation wizard crashing on

> > startup? If not, do you know if your machine is HW DEP enabled or not, and
> > if so if you are set to OptIn or AlwaysOn (see my post "Critical Bugs").

> No. My processor is older and does not support that.
> I did have to tell my software firewall to allow Money Plus to
> access the internet, but that is the case for any install I do.

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Old 08-09-2007, 03:23 AM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: Money Plus (AKA Money 2008)

And now it has that vital feature: associating a filename with a transaction
so that all of those folks who want to save scanned receipts can have, more
or less and probably for many, less, than they've been wishing for. Now
these same folks can start complaining about moving and/or renaming and/or
deleting these files and the link they stored in Money no longer being any
good.


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Old 08-08-2007, 10:39 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, Craig wrote:

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> MS Money home page shows the difference between Money Plus Deluxe and Premium
> is:
> 1) Minimize capital gains taxes***
> 2) Make tax-smart investment choices***
> The 3 stars indicate the free offers with Premium that include GainsKeeper.
> So if you don't need GainsKeeper, is there any other significant differences
> between deluxe and Premium to warrant the extra $20?


The offers are the difference. On the
http://www.microsoft.com/money/Produ...ve_tab=Compare
that you are looking at, go to the *** at the bottom. There click on
the last link on the page and read the various descriptions. Note
that some say "Offer available to new ____ customers only."

You are able to determine whether the difference is worth it to you.


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> Thoughts?
> "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:
> > Money Plus (AKA Money 2008) has some useful improvements.
> > > The lead feature is the Insights, which will optionally watch for

> > and display upcoming Bills, spending, and cash flow info. It is done
> > using a single tray icon. It is completely optional and not pushy.
> > > One thing that everybody will run across is an activation system-- a

> > first for Money. There will be an KB article with FAQ info. Each key
> > will limit activation to two installs. A reinstall to the same
> > computer should not require a key unless there has been big change
> > in the hardware. The install will run 60 days without activation,
> > but there is a nag/reminder that will come up each time you start
> > Money Plus until activation.
> > > But there are quiet things that are significant.
> > > There is an improved statement download. You are able to select to

> > have direct direct FI statements downloaded in the background, even
> > if there is no LiveID on the file. That is totally optional.
> > > On Tools-> InternetUpdates-> CustomizeUpdates there is a checkbox to

> > control that. If the box is set, mnybbsvc.exe, the background
> > banking service, is run. If you open a Money file where the checkbox
> > is cleared, mnybbsvc.exe ends.
> > > I installed the trial version of Money Plus (AKA Money 2008). I

> > converted a file that had a LiveID with a third party FI as well as
> > a direct direct FI. I logged in specifying that I wanted to work
> > offline. The note said that *some* things would not work. I was
> > still able to update and download a statement from the direct direct
> > FI.
> > > Also nice is that the interaction with USB flash drives for backup

> > is fixed up well. It can write to drives with more than 2 GB of
> > space remaining, and the setting for the number of scheduled backups
> > to retain is honored.
> > > Some things feel faster moving between windows, such as Account-List

> > <-> Portfolio, but I cannot be sure it is not my imagination.
> > > File size initially got larger, but a

> > File-> RepairMoneyFile-> QuickFileRepair brought it down smaller than
> > the file that had been converted to Money Plus. It will be
> > interesting to see how that works out for others.
> > > >
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Old 08-08-2007, 10:18 PM
Craig
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Default RE: Money Plus (AKA Money 2008)

MS Money home page shows the difference between Money Plus Deluxe and Premium
is:
1) Minimize capital gains taxes***
2) Make tax-smart investment choices***

The 3 stars indicate the free offers with Premium that include GainsKeeper.
So if you don't need GainsKeeper, is there any other significant differences
between deluxe and Premium to warrant the extra $20?
Thoughts?

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

- quote -

> Money Plus (AKA Money 2008) has some useful improvements.
> The lead feature is the Insights, which will optionally watch for
> and display upcoming Bills, spending, and cash flow info. It is done
> using a single tray icon. It is completely optional and not pushy.
> One thing that everybody will run across is an activation system-- a
> first for Money. There will be an KB article with FAQ info. Each key
> will limit activation to two installs. A reinstall to the same
> computer should not require a key unless there has been big change
> in the hardware. The install will run 60 days without activation,
> but there is a nag/reminder that will come up each time you start
> Money Plus until activation.
> But there are quiet things that are significant.
> There is an improved statement download. You are able to select to
> have direct direct FI statements downloaded in the background, even
> if there is no LiveID on the file. That is totally optional.
> On Tools-> InternetUpdates-> CustomizeUpdates there is a checkbox to
> control that. If the box is set, mnybbsvc.exe, the background
> banking service, is run. If you open a Money file where the checkbox
> is cleared, mnybbsvc.exe ends.
> I installed the trial version of Money Plus (AKA Money 2008). I
> converted a file that had a LiveID with a third party FI as well as
> a direct direct FI. I logged in specifying that I wanted to work
> offline. The note said that *some* things would not work. I was
> still able to update and download a statement from the direct direct
> FI.
> Also nice is that the interaction with USB flash drives for backup
> is fixed up well. It can write to drives with more than 2 GB of
> space remaining, and the setting for the number of scheduled backups
> to retain is honored.
> Some things feel faster moving between windows, such as Account-List
> <-> Portfolio, but I cannot be sure it is not my imagination.
> File size initially got larger, but a
> File-> RepairMoneyFile-> QuickFileRepair brought it down smaller than
> the file that had been converted to Money Plus. It will be
> interesting to see how that works out for others.

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Old 08-08-2007, 07:11 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: Money Plus (AKA Money 2008)

In microsoft.public.money, Joe Guidera wrote:

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> My file size dropped by about 200K (not much). In terms of activation, the
> prior version of Money (2007) also required activation (as I ran into the
> limit when I had to re-install my machine). FYI: The activation server (it
> appears) was mis-behaving around noon central time today.


You have 60 days to activate.
- quote -

> Did you run into issues with Money and the activation wizard crashing on
> startup? If not, do you know if your machine is HW DEP enabled or not, and
> if so if you are set to OptIn or AlwaysOn (see my post "Critical Bugs").


No. My processor is older and does not support that.

I did have to tell my software firewall to allow Money Plus to
access the internet, but that is the case for any install I do.
 
Old 08-08-2007, 06:42 PM
Joe Guidera
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Default RE: Money Plus (AKA Money 2008)

My file size dropped by about 200K (not much). In terms of activation, the
prior version of Money (2007) also required activation (as I ran into the
limit when I had to re-install my machine). FYI: The activation server (it
appears) was mis-behaving around noon central time today.

Did you run into issues with Money and the activation wizard crashing on
startup? If not, do you know if your machine is HW DEP enabled or not, and
if so if you are set to OptIn or AlwaysOn (see my post "Critical Bugs").

Cheers
Joe

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

- quote -

> Money Plus (AKA Money 2008) has some useful improvements.
> The lead feature is the Insights, which will optionally watch for
> and display upcoming Bills, spending, and cash flow info. It is done
> using a single tray icon. It is completely optional and not pushy.
> One thing that everybody will run across is an activation system-- a
> first for Money. There will be an KB article with FAQ info. Each key
> will limit activation to two installs. A reinstall to the same
> computer should not require a key unless there has been big change
> in the hardware. The install will run 60 days without activation,
> but there is a nag/reminder that will come up each time you start
> Money Plus until activation.
> But there are quiet things that are significant.
> There is an improved statement download. You are able to select to
> have direct direct FI statements downloaded in the background, even
> if there is no LiveID on the file. That is totally optional.
> On Tools-> InternetUpdates-> CustomizeUpdates there is a checkbox to
> control that. If the box is set, mnybbsvc.exe, the background
> banking service, is run. If you open a Money file where the checkbox
> is cleared, mnybbsvc.exe ends.
> I installed the trial version of Money Plus (AKA Money 2008). I
> converted a file that had a LiveID with a third party FI as well as
> a direct direct FI. I logged in specifying that I wanted to work
> offline. The note said that *some* things would not work. I was
> still able to update and download a statement from the direct direct
> FI.
> Also nice is that the interaction with USB flash drives for backup
> is fixed up well. It can write to drives with more than 2 GB of
> space remaining, and the setting for the number of scheduled backups
> to retain is honored.
> Some things feel faster moving between windows, such as Account-List
> <-> Portfolio, but I cannot be sure it is not my imagination.
> File size initially got larger, but a
> File-> RepairMoneyFile-> QuickFileRepair brought it down smaller than
> the file that had been converted to Money Plus. It will be
> interesting to see how that works out for others.

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Old 08-08-2007, 06:21 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Money Plus (AKA Money 2008)

Money Plus (AKA Money 2008) has some useful improvements.

The lead feature is the Insights, which will optionally watch for
and display upcoming Bills, spending, and cash flow info. It is done
using a single tray icon. It is completely optional and not pushy.

One thing that everybody will run across is an activation system-- a
first for Money. There will be an KB article with FAQ info. Each key
will limit activation to two installs. A reinstall to the same
computer should not require a key unless there has been big change
in the hardware. The install will run 60 days without activation,
but there is a nag/reminder that will come up each time you start
Money Plus until activation.

But there are quiet things that are significant.

There is an improved statement download. You are able to select to
have direct direct FI statements downloaded in the background, even
if there is no LiveID on the file. That is totally optional.

On Tools-> InternetUpdates-> CustomizeUpdates there is a checkbox to
control that. If the box is set, mnybbsvc.exe, the background
banking service, is run. If you open a Money file where the checkbox
is cleared, mnybbsvc.exe ends.

I installed the trial version of Money Plus (AKA Money 2008). I
converted a file that had a LiveID with a third party FI as well as
a direct direct FI. I logged in specifying that I wanted to work
offline. The note said that *some* things would not work. I was
still able to update and download a statement from the direct direct
FI.

Also nice is that the interaction with USB flash drives for backup
is fixed up well. It can write to drives with more than 2 GB of
space remaining, and the setting for the number of scheduled backups
to retain is honored.

Some things feel faster moving between windows, such as Account-List
<-> Portfolio, but I cannot be sure it is not my imagination.

File size initially got larger, but a
File-> RepairMoneyFile-> QuickFileRepair brought it down smaller than
the file that had been converted to Money Plus. It will be
interesting to see how that works out for others.



 

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