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Old 06-09-2007, 09:44 PM
George
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Default Re: I Discovered Why I Couldn't View Downloaded Transactions.

I selected the ShowStandardizedPayeeNamesForWhichANameIsNotFound
setting and downloaded the 'Pets "R" Us' transaction again. It
worked!!! Money stripped off the Quotes and matched it with the
transaction I manually keyed in. I'm going to use this stting from
now on.

Thanks,

George


On Jun 7, 5:08 pm, Cal Learner-- MVP <via_newsgr...[at]please.tnx> wrote:
- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, George wrote:
> > I mean quotes (") and not apostrophes. Sorry.

> You did not mention the
> ShowStandardizedPayeeNamesForWhichANameIsNotFound setting. Had you
> tried that, and what were the results?
> > The two errors I had were 6 months or more apart and so my memory of
> > the first error was off. I now remember more clearly. The first
> > error was caused by the payee 'Pets "R" Us'. As a test I just tried
> > keying it in manually and Money won't allow the quotes (").

> Interesting. I was unaware of that. The OFX 2 specification says
> ====================================
> 2.3.1.1 Special Characters
> Special characters in OFX 2.0.2 are handled according to the XML
> standard. Characters such as '<', '> ',
> '&', ''', and '"' are predefined in XML. Other character strings
> with many special characters should be
> enclosed in a CDATA section.
> ================================================ht tp://support.microsoft.com/kb/251354lists special XML characters
> The OFX 1 spec does not seem to have that rule for quote characters.
> So I suspect that the OFX file you are dealing with is OFX version
> 2.x.
> > Then I went to my Financial Institution's website again and examined
> > the transactions again for the latest date that had problems. Lo and
> > behold 'Pets "R" Us' was there. Due to my faulty memory I thought it
> > was another transaction on that same day that had an apostrophe.
> > BTW, I tried repairing the Money data file and deleted the temporary
> > both times without any success. The only solution was NOT to download
> > and import the transaction with the quote (") in it. I wish there was
> > some way to intercept the downloaded transactions and edit out the
> > quote symbol.

> Well.... there is a way, but it may be too complex to be of use.
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/911941/en-ustells you how to
> capture a log file. There are normally two *rs.txt files for each
> FI. Copy/rename the later, and usually larger to a *.ofx filename.
> Edit that *.ofx file with a simple text editor (rather than a word
> processor). Make your changes.
> File-> Import that *.ofx file.
> There would be ways to make a script to do the replacements for you.
> The quote characters that are not part of the header would be
> replaced with these six characters: &quot;
> just as the ampersand in a payee name needs to be replaced with
> these: &amp;



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Old 06-07-2007, 10:08 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: I Discovered Why I Couldn't View Downloaded Transactions.

In microsoft.public.money, George wrote:

- quote -

> I mean quotes (") and not apostrophes. Sorry.

You did not mention the
ShowStandardizedPayeeNamesForWhichANameIsNotFound setting. Had you
tried that, and what were the results?


- quote -

> The two errors I had were 6 months or more apart and so my memory of
> the first error was off. I now remember more clearly. The first
> error was caused by the payee 'Pets "R" Us'. As a test I just tried
> keying it in manually and Money won't allow the quotes (").


Interesting. I was unaware of that. The OFX 2 specification says
====================================
2.3.1.1 Special Characters
Special characters in OFX 2.0.2 are handled according to the XML
standard. Characters such as ’<’, ’> ’,
’&’, ’’’, and ’"’ are predefined in XML. Other character strings
with many special characters should be
enclosed in a CDATA section.
================================================
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/251354 lists special XML characters


The OFX 1 spec does not seem to have that rule for quote characters.
So I suspect that the OFX file you are dealing with is OFX version
2.x.




- quote -

> Then I went to my Financial Institution's website again and examined
> the transactions again for the latest date that had problems. Lo and
> behold 'Pets "R" Us' was there. Due to my faulty memory I thought it
> was another transaction on that same day that had an apostrophe.
> BTW, I tried repairing the Money data file and deleted the temporary
> both times without any success. The only solution was NOT to download
> and import the transaction with the quote (") in it. I wish there was
> some way to intercept the downloaded transactions and edit out the
> quote symbol.


Well.... there is a way, but it may be too complex to be of use.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/911941/en-us tells you how to
capture a log file. There are normally two *rs.txt files for each
FI. Copy/rename the later, and usually larger to a *.ofx filename.

Edit that *.ofx file with a simple text editor (rather than a word
processor). Make your changes.

File-> Import that *.ofx file.


There would be ways to make a script to do the replacements for you.
The quote characters that are not part of the header would be
replaced with these six characters: &quot;
just as the ampersand in a payee name needs to be replaced with
these: &amp;



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Old 06-07-2007, 09:34 PM
George
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Default Re: I Discovered Why I Couldn't View Downloaded Transactions.

I mean quotes (") and not apostrophes. Sorry.

The two errors I had were 6 months or more apart and so my memory of
the first error was off. I now remember more clearly. The first
error was caused by the payee 'Pets "R" Us'. As a test I just tried
keying it in manually and Money won't allow the quotes (").

Then I went to my Financial Institution's website again and examined
the transactions again for the latest date that had problems. Lo and
behold 'Pets "R" Us' was there. Due to my faulty memory I thought it
was another transaction on that same day that had an apostrophe.

BTW, I tried repairing the Money data file and deleted the temporary
both times without any success. The only solution was NOT to download
and import the transaction with the quote (") in it. I wish there was
some way to intercept the downloaded transactions and edit out the
quote symbol.


On Jun 5, 7:28 pm, Cal Learner-- MVP <via_newsgr...[at]please.tnx> wrote:
- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, George wrote:
> > I use Money 2006 Deluxe. Twice I have had problems viewing downloaded
> > transactions. Both times it was caused by an apostrophe in the
> > Payee's name. Evidentially, Money doesn't like apostrophes in OFX
> > files.

> I expect you mean ampersands ('&').
> > I worked around this problem by deleting the downloaded transactions.
> > Then I went to the Financial Institution's website and manually
> > downloaded the new transactions with dates prior to the bad
> > transaction (the one with the apostrophe) and the new transactions
> > with dates after the bad one. So in effect I downloaded all new
> > transaction except for those on the same day as the bad one. Then I
> > manually entered the transactions with the same date as the bad one.
> > BTW, you can't enter a Payee name that has an apostrophe. That's who
> > I discovered this.
> > Who's at fault? I imagine Microsoft has told the Financial
> > Institutions not to include apostrophes in OFX files. So the F.I.s
> > are at fault. However, Money should have a way to handle this error.

> The FI should encode an ampersand as these five characters: "&amp;".
> > So MS gets is also at fault.
> > Say does anyone know how to download a OFX and save it without Money
> > trying to open it?

> Almost ... but .....
> > I'd like to try to edit out any apostrophes next
> > time this occurs.

> ... this is likely to solve the problem for you:
> In Internet Explorer delete your browser temporary files with
> Tools-> InternetOptions-> DeleteFiles or
> Tools-> InternetOptions-> Delete-> DeleteFiles.
> Then in Money do File-> RepairMoneyFile-> QuickFileRepair again.
> Then go to Tools-> Settings-> OnlineServiceSetting and
> select ShowStandardizedPayeeNamesForWhichANameIsNotFound.
> Download again.



 
Old 06-06-2007, 12:28 AM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: I Discovered Why I Couldn't View Downloaded Transactions.

In microsoft.public.money, George wrote:

- quote -

> I use Money 2006 Deluxe. Twice I have had problems viewing downloaded
> transactions. Both times it was caused by an apostrophe in the
> Payee's name. Evidentially, Money doesn't like apostrophes in OFX
> files.


I expect you mean ampersands ('&').

- quote -

> I worked around this problem by deleting the downloaded transactions.
> Then I went to the Financial Institution's website and manually
> downloaded the new transactions with dates prior to the bad
> transaction (the one with the apostrophe) and the new transactions
> with dates after the bad one. So in effect I downloaded all new
> transaction except for those on the same day as the bad one. Then I
> manually entered the transactions with the same date as the bad one.
> BTW, you can't enter a Payee name that has an apostrophe. That's who
> I discovered this.
> Who's at fault? I imagine Microsoft has told the Financial
> Institutions not to include apostrophes in OFX files. So the F.I.s
> are at fault. However, Money should have a way to handle this error.


The FI should encode an ampersand as these five characters: "&amp;".

- quote -

> So MS gets is also at fault.
> Say does anyone know how to download a OFX and save it without Money
> trying to open it?


Almost ... but .....

- quote -

> I'd like to try to edit out any apostrophes next
> time this occurs.


.... this is likely to solve the problem for you:

In Internet Explorer delete your browser temporary files with
Tools-> InternetOptions-> DeleteFiles or
Tools-> InternetOptions-> Delete-> DeleteFiles.

Then in Money do File-> RepairMoneyFile-> QuickFileRepair again.

Then go to Tools-> Settings-> OnlineServiceSetting and
select ShowStandardizedPayeeNamesForWhichANameIsNotFound.

Download again.

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Old 06-05-2007, 11:37 PM
George
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Default I Discovered Why I Couldn't View Downloaded Transactions.

I use Money 2006 Deluxe. Twice I have had problems viewing downloaded
transactions. Both times it was caused by an apostrophe in the
Payee's name. Evidentially, Money doesn't like apostrophes in OFX
files.

I worked around this problem by deleting the downloaded transactions.
Then I went to the Financial Institution's website and manually
downloaded the new transactions with dates prior to the bad
transaction (the one with the apostrophe) and the new transactions
with dates after the bad one. So in effect I downloaded all new
transaction except for those on the same day as the bad one. Then I
manually entered the transactions with the same date as the bad one.
BTW, you can't enter a Payee name that has an apostrophe. That's who
I discovered this.

Who's at fault? I imagine Microsoft has told the Financial
Institutions not to include apostrophes in OFX files. So the F.I.s
are at fault. However, Money should have a way to handle this error.
So MS gets is also at fault.
Say does anyone know how to download a OFX and save it without Money
trying to open it? I'd like to try to edit out any apostrophes next
time this occurs.

George

 

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