I am having the exact same problem with Money 2007 and Vista. I think it is
a Vista problem but it really sucks when VIsta is incompatable with a MS
product like Money. I have used Money for 10 years but I am ready to switch
to Quicken. I was checking this group to see if the problem has a known
solution.

Actually, I'm surprised Money Plus attempted to write to "Program Files"
since UAC Registry and File Virtualization was devised specifically to
deal with legacy applications whose programmers failed to follow proper
programming guidelines.

Under Folder [and Search Options], select

Folder Options > View > Show hidden files and folders

then navigate to and move the file to a location under Documents in your
user profile.

In Vista, as part of UAC (User Account Control), only the trusted
installer has write access to "%SystemRoot%\Program Files", so if any
other program attempts to write there, Vista redirects the write to the
user's VirtualStore:

"%UserProfile%\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Prog ram Files".

In your case, "%SystemRoot%" resolves to "C:" and "%UserProfile%"
resolves to "C:\Users\Rusty".

"rpb" <rpb[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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In microsoft.public.money, rpb wrote:

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Move your Money and backup files to a spot that
you will have full privileges to, such as Documents/MyDocuments.
If they are in a place like ProgramFiles, Vista will create an
impermanent copy of the file for the user to use, unless the user
explicitly right-clicks at launch and choose RunAsAdministrator
that time.

Right-click the Money icon and choose RunAsAdmistrator to let
updates happen. Then reboot the computer. Check that the Money
2007 version is 16.0.*.1303.

What is happening is "File Virtualization" of Vista. Search on that
term, and see
http://www.hanselman.com/blog/Vistas...alization.aspx






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I recently transferred my earlier version Money data file to the new Vista
operating system with Money Plus Deluxe. File was updated to the new Money
Plus version and seems to be working properly. However, it established the
file in C:\users\rusty\appdata\local\virtualstore\programf iles. I found it
via the search engine but I cannot navigate to it through the folders
hierarchy. When I get to C:\users\rusty\ there is no visible folder named
"appdata" to continue. Can someone explain this to me?

"Mark" wrote:

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Please be sure to let us know if you discover anything.
The time stamp on the tmp file may help (in at least narrowing down the
timeframe when something happened differently). So you could try to identify
what may have been different during that time.

-Mark


<sue.chastain[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 16, 11:12 am, "Mark" <a...[at]abcd.com> wrote:
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Hi Mark,

Nothing that I have been able to pinpoint. Since I can never know
exactly when it disappears, all I have to go by is the time stamp on
the TMP file that is left behind. I've scoured Windows' error logs
looking for something to coincide with this, and have not been able to
turn anything up.

Thanks,
Is there anything else about how your system behaves when it "loses" the
data file versus when it finds it and loads fine?
For example:
- Some other program running?
- Some error/crash?
- Logging out, Switch User?
- Some update downloading for some other program?
- Some weird behavior in Money?
- Backup behavior (skipping backup versus letting it do it)
- etc


-Mark


<sue.chastain[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 12, 11:21 am, "Mark" <a...[at]abcd.com> wrote:
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It is a desktop computer that I never put into hibernation/sleep.

Another user mentioned something about hibernation and this problem.
Is this a laptop?
Does this seem to be related to Vista going into hibernation?

-Mark


<sue.chastain[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 10, 6:59 pm, "Mark" <a...[at]abcd.com> wrote:
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No, it is just a separate partition that I use for Documents so I can
easily back up all my data in one place. It is on the same physical
drive as C. My Money file has resided on the F drive for years and
years, through multiple Windows and Money versions. I clean-installed
Vista in mid-March and the first occurrence of the disappearing Money
file was on March 28. In fact, I also swapped out that hard drive for
a larger one recently and the disappearing act has happened before and
after the drive swap. No other files have mysteriously disappeared
that I know of.

--
Sue

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Is there something special about the F drive?
Is it a mapped network share?
Is it a non standard hard drive?
etc

-Mark


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Just to add to the voices, I have been experiencing this same problem
for several months. I am running Money Deluxe 2007 under Windows Vista
Ultimate 32-bit, and my Money files resides in F:\Sue\Documents\Money

For the past 4-5 months, every 3-4 weeks, the Money file simply
disappears and in its place is a ~XXXXX.tmp file. The temp file can be
renamed with a mny extension and will open just fine. Every time it
happens I check the time stamp on the temp file that is left behind,
and can find no rhyme or reason to it--it has been in the wee hours of
the night, and in the middle of the afternoon. I tried to match it up
to times when I have virus scans, defrag, or backups scheduled and
have even looked in event viewer trying to find something that
corresponded to those times. So far, I have not been able to associate
these disappearances to anything.

Even though I make regular backups, it is still a serious annoyance
and a major concern, and I am beginning to look at alternatives to
Money because of this.

By the way is there a .tmp file of the same size as the .mny file in the
directory that the .mny file resides in?
If so, what type of antivirus, antispyware, etc. programs are running that
might be scanning file activity and reacting to a file read/write/delete
behaviour?

--
Regards
Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

For UK tips & fixes see
http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny.


I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.

"Geri" <Geri[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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The symptoms that you describe are very definitely indicative of the .mny
file residing somewhere where Vista thinks it ought not to be.

As Cal posted I originally had mine in Program Files but quickly found that
was not a "good thing". Personally I have my .mny file on an external HDD
but a specially created folder on the root of your C: drive ought to be OK.

Try moving the .mny file to somewhere safe and rather than opening the Money
program and letting it find your file by default, navigate to it with (My)
Computer or Windows Explorer and double click on the .mny file name. If you
just open the Money program it will remember the last location it found the
..mny file (even if it is Program Files) and open it from there.

--
Regards
Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

For UK tips & fixes see
http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny.


I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.

"Geri" <Geri[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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OOPS! forgot to mention that I did try all of the other suggestions in
previous posts with no better results. My Documents is where the file resides
currently and where it was originally - before all of the other
experimenting. I'll keep tracking the various threads to see what else comes
up. Thanks to you all.

"Cindy Conover" wrote:

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Geri,

Look at some of the other Posts in here about Vista, Cal has some great
suggestions. One thing has been pointed out that you must save your file to
My Documents and not in Program files.

Cindy
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My file has disappeared 3 times in 6 months. Today being the latest episode.
I am running Vista Home Prem 32 bit with Money Home & Business 2007. My file
is located in the appropriate user folder. I even recreated my file system
the last time it happened to see if putting it in a totally different
structure would help. I've renamed the file; archived and just about
everything else I could think of. Today... after having had my file open
earlier in the day, upon reopening Money the file no longer existed. I was
able to rebuild/restore from backup without an issue, but.... WHERE IS THE
FILE GOING?! Could this be a DEP issue? The only way I have no system
mysteries is if I TOTALLY disable DEP. I enabled DEP yesterday for the first
time in about 4 months. That's the only difference in my operating conditions
between yesterday and today. Any other ideas?

"Valdacil" wrote:

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Well, my Money file is located on my network drive
(N:\Userdata\Lockefamily\Lockefamily.mny) which is running Win2003 Server.

"Tony Linguini" wrote:

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My money file is in the right place. I think it has to do with Vista's
automagic disk maintenance, because it seems to go away on a regulare timed
basis. <fwiw"Bob Peel, MVP" <bob_peel[at]kiandra.freeserve.co.uk.INVALID> wrote in message
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