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Old 05-15-2007, 04:14 PM
Marilyn & Bob
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Well, I did it. Took about 3 hours to set up the 116 bills, but things are
moving a lot swifter. Some of thing things I did in restoring the bills
involved switch from my checking account to the bill page and back.
Happened almost instantaneous instead of taking the 15-30 seconds it used to
take. Let's hope it stays this way. Thanks for the advice, Dick and Chris.
--
Peace,
BobJ

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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> I'd have to say the jury is still out on that point.
> "Marilyn & Bob" <Privacy[at]nospam.please> wrote in message
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> > However, I trust that this is a one time thing and that if I fix it,
> > Money will not be as slow as it currently is 2 years from now.



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Old 05-13-2007, 11:16 PM
Dick Watson
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I'd have to say the jury is still out on that point.

"Marilyn & Bob" <Privacy[at]nospam.please> wrote in message
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> However, I trust that this is a one time thing and that if I fix it, Money
> will not be as slow as it currently is 2 years from now.



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Old 05-13-2007, 10:37 PM
Marilyn & Bob
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Thanks Dick and Chris. You've convinced me that I should do this. And if
it works well, I'll try to convince my SO to do it on her Money file as
well. Of the 116 entries on my bill pay list, probably more than two thirds
are yearly contributions to charitable or political organizations. Very few
have split categories or other adjustments (like the uneven dates for
estimated tax payments). However, I trust that this is a one time thing and
that if I fix it, Money will not be as slow as it currently is 2 years from
now.
--
Peace,
BobJ

"Chris Cowles" <spam_magnet[at]remove-me-bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> "Marilyn & Bob" <Privacy[at]nospam.please> wrote in message
> news:%23YWlNSDlHHA.4628[at]TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > My file goes back to Money95. The first check in my checking account is
> > from August of 96. Money 2007 is somewhat slow on loading and very slow
> > switching to bills and other views. I did a test using the "nuke the
> > bills" on a duplicate account and Money worked much quicker, so I would
> > really like to do the "Remove all Bills Data" fix. Only I have 116 bills
> > as of today, so recreating them manually would be a real struggle. Is
> > there some trick to recreating the bills? Or should I forget the nuke
> > and live with the slowness?

> Don't live with it. You do have a means to fix it. The effect is dramatic,
> although there is labor involved.
> If you use online bill pay with apay, those all have to be canceled first.
> Then, on the bills list, use File> Print to save a list. I'm not aware of a
> means to export to CSV but, if you have office installed or a PDF printer
> utility, you can print to file. That documents what you need to restore.
> Many of the bills can be reproduced from your registers. Right-click,
> select Make Recurring. When you save it, it doesn't have to be recurring,
> per se. You can make it a one time event in the future, and save it as a
> new transaction in the bills list.
> If you use Budget and existing bills are part of that budget, I think your
> budget may be trashed retrospectively. All past bill events will no longer
> be budgeted in past months, but the recorded bills will affect actuals.
> You may adjust those categories manually in the budget, or maybe schedule
> those bill events retroactively, then skip them.
> Personally, I found it worthwhile.
> --
> Chris Cowles
> Gainesville, FL



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Old 05-12-2007, 07:03 PM
Chris Cowles
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"Marilyn & Bob" <Privacy[at]nospam.please> wrote in message
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> My file goes back to Money95. The first check in my checking account is
> from August of 96. Money 2007 is somewhat slow on loading and very slow
> switching to bills and other views. I did a test using the "nuke the
> bills" on a duplicate account and Money worked much quicker, so I would
> really like to do the "Remove all Bills Data" fix. Only I have 116 bills
> as of today, so recreating them manually would be a real struggle. Is
> there some trick to recreating the bills? Or should I forget the nuke and
> live with the slowness?


Don't live with it. You do have a means to fix it. The effect is dramatic,
although there is labor involved.

If you use online bill pay with apay, those all have to be canceled first.
Then, on the bills list, use File> Print to save a list. I'm not aware of a
means to export to CSV but, if you have office installed or a PDF printer
utility, you can print to file. That documents what you need to restore.

Many of the bills can be reproduced from your registers. Right-click, select
Make Recurring. When you save it, it doesn't have to be recurring, per se.
You can make it a one time event in the future, and save it as a new
transaction in the bills list.

If you use Budget and existing bills are part of that budget, I think your
budget may be trashed retrospectively. All past bill events will no longer
be budgeted in past months, but the recorded bills will affect actuals. You
may adjust those categories manually in the budget, or maybe schedule those
bill events retroactively, then skip them.

Personally, I found it worthwhile.
--
Chris Cowles
Gainesville, FL

 
Old 05-12-2007, 02:35 AM
Dick Watson
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There is no simple trick I'm aware of. See
http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=187 for how I did it with heavy emphasis on
two machines and Remote Desktop.

I did it in about three sittings of an hour or two each. A royal pain, but
once done well worth the effort. (Try not to think about why this has to be
the best solution to this problem. That'll just annoy you while you spend
all of this time "helping" Money fix problems it created in the first
place.)

If the two machine/Remote Desktop caper is not an option, I'm not sure what
would be second best. I have lots of splits and lots of memo items and so
forth and Remote Desktop let me move lots of that stuff with Copy/Paste. It
would have really been a pain doing this any other way. I think my next plan
would have been a bills report, with all the options on, saved to a .CSV and
opened in Excel. Then you could Copy/Paste lots of stuff. But that wouldn't
cover things like paycheck tab assignments and different items in the series
and time/occurrence limited series--write-only data none of which there is
any way to get out of Money besides looking at the UI. You could also go
back and forth between the nuked file and the pre-nuked file and use
Alt+PrtScr/paste into Wordpad to get "pictures" of the more complex items to
work some of the data that doesn't move any other way.

Good Luck. As they say, I feel your pain.

"Marilyn & Bob" <Privacy[at]nospam.please> wrote in message
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> My file goes back to Money95. The first check in my checking account is
> from August of 96. Money 2007 is somewhat slow on loading and very slow
> switching to bills and other views. I did a test using the "nuke the
> bills" on a duplicate account and Money worked much quicker, so I would
> really like to do the "Remove all Bills Data" fix. Only I have 116 bills
> as of today, so recreating them manually would be a real struggle. Is
> there some trick to recreating the bills? Or should I forget the nuke and
> live with the slowness?



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Old 05-12-2007, 01:26 AM
Marilyn & Bob
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My file goes back to Money95. The first check in my checking account is
from August of 96. Money 2007 is somewhat slow on loading and very slow
switching to bills and other views. I did a test using the "nuke the bills"
on a duplicate account and Money worked much quicker, so I would really like
to do the "Remove all Bills Data" fix. Only I have 116 bills as of today,
so recreating them manually would be a real struggle. Is there some trick
to recreating the bills? Or should I forget the nuke and live with the
slowness?
--
Peace,
BobJ


 

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