What I am struggling w/ is signing on to my bank. Now it would appear it is
"essential" for MonEss to work w/ an internet connection to your bank
account. I signed into my BofA, but put in the wrong psswrd. Since then I
have tried to go back w/ the message "Temporary UNavailable." I don't know
if its a MonEss thing or a bank thing. Furthermore, is MonEss supposed to
provide the service for free since the program doesn't work w/out it? BofA
charges $10/mo.! Talk about being held hostage....anyone have a clue?

File|Open?

I'm not sure I follow your M05 comment. Are you saying you have an M05 file
and you can't open it in M05? Why not? Message? If you just reinstalled M05,
did you do an Internet Update after installing but before trying to
File|Open the existing M05 file? See http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=177 for
more information if this is your scenario.

"ChrisMul" <ChrisMul[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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In microsoft.public.money, ChrisMul wrote:

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If you don't want to use Money 2007, uninstall Money 2007.

Install Money 2005 if you want to use Money 2005. After you do,
first either open the sample.mny file in your install folder, or let
Money 2005 create a new Money file, clicking Decline in the
process. It will do an update. Close Money. Then open Money.
Then you should be able to open or restore your existing Money 2005
files.

How do you open your existing file? I've tried, and I can't figure it out.
I don't want 2007, just my old 2005 will do just fine...

Thanks

"Dick Watson" wrote:

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I also note your comment about "upgrading to a product [you] don't need".

By this, do you mean Deluxe vs. Essential?

Deluxe sells regularly for <$20. The old Standard product didn't fit under
that by much and was generally harder to find and sold--at retail
anyway--many fewer copies. They had already de-featured Standard of even
"essential" (to many users, anyway, but not, apparently, to "must users"
that MEss is targeted at) features like Cash Flow Forecasting. If you think
moving to Deluxe is a big, expensive "upgrade" I think you are also missing
the mark. Would you feel better if they called Deluxe the new Standard?

"hurricane51" <bkkdave[at]fastmail.fm> wrote in message
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FWIW, here's the draft of an as-yet-unpublished FAQ entry for MEss:
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Money Essentials (MEss for short) is a toy Microsoft hopes to use to wean
lots of new users from a complex and expensive-to-support product toward
something much more like a bank web site that delivers ads from Microsoft
rather than the bank. They are, apparently, filling the OEM channels chock
full of this thing. The probably license it to the OEMs for a $5 discount on
the Vista operating system license or something.

For some people MEss probably does all they want or need. If all you are
interested in is a consolidated view of balances and transactions--as viewed
by the FIs--and don't much care about analysis, reporting, investment
performance, serious budgeting, income and expense categorization, etc.,
MEss may be for you. Cal Learner--MVP posted a handy link to Microsoft's
features comparison. But there are a number of things you can't determine
from this table. Examples: MEss can't even do a Transfer that shows in two
accounts at once. It also won't/can't upgrade your pre-existing Money data
file since it's a fundamentally more "Essential" (less capable?) approach to
the problem. For previous Money users, that's the disqualifier for MEss.

So, if you have been using a previous version of Money, you may just want to
uninstall Mess to get the waste disk space back, then install your previous
version and get on with life. If you haven't used a previous version of
Money, you might want to fiddle around with the thing, but remember this: it
isn't representative of the rest of the Money product line. If you like it
and think it's all you need, that's great. But if it seems like it's missing
something, that's because it is.

What makes you think Money 2007 Essentials (MEss) has much of anything
beyond outward appearances in common with the versions of Money you've been
using? It doesn't. The editions that do (M2007 Deluxe, M2007 Premier, etc.)
are derived from what you've been using and they do upgrade existing files,
just like all previous version--until MEss.

I'm not a tireless defender of the Redmond faith, and certainly am not a big
fan of MEss or the system that thought it was "the next big thing" for
Money, but I think your criticism here is off-base.

"hurricane51" <bkkdave[at]fastmail.fm> wrote in message
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I just read that Microsoft has decreed that Money 2007 Essentials will
not be able to open to previous versions of Money files. This has made
my decision to switch to Quicken a no-brainer. I've struggled along
with Money through each version with the attitude of "the devil you
know", but it appears that longtime users are no longer important to
Microsoft unless they are willing to upgrade to a product that they
don't need.

Since I will no longer use my existing Money files, it just feels like
Microsoft is holding a gun to my head.

thanks, Microsoft.