On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, BroTher zAchary wrote:

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To use a famous sentence..."it all depends on how you look at it"...

Or..."truth by proclamation"?

Or.."truth by 'strawman' "?

Or..."I think therefore ....(insert favorite conclusion)..."?

Or.. "he/she"? ??? what about _it_?

On Feb 22, 5:03 am, "Frank Arthur" <A...[at]Arthurian.com> wrote:
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Begging the question, aren't we?

On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, carrera d'olbani wrote:

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Do you know that there are more cell phones in China, today, than in the
USA? Do you know there are more cell phones in India than there are oeioke
who know how to use them?

The religion of money destryed the capability of the
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The religion of money (and weath/power) was around since ancient times or
before. Sadly, I think it will be around as long as there are human
beings.

The purpose of the education was to
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Nah, the purpose of education is to make people (underlings, serfs, peons,
peasants) obey the rules, laws, and orders of those who are rich and
powerful. I knew some Russians at one time. Very educated, but never any
revolution against communism. Look at China; they are beating the hell out
of us. Communism wins over capitalism. And, almost no one talks about
this.

How do you like that?

On Feb 23, 1:36 am, Straydog <a...[at]panix.com> wrote:
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I'll tell you even more. Do you know that the USA spends 1.5 times as
much money for the TV commercials as it spends for the public
education ? The religion of money destryed the capability of the
people to think independently. The purpose of the education was to
make a person thinking critically and independently... but no more !

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007, Old Pif wrote:

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You will have to define "financial consulting" and here is where I'm
coming from: "FC" -- to me, anyway -- can mean anything from: i) getting a
monopoly, ii) doing 'Enron-Andersen' things, iii) vicious M&A, S&M, and
any '800 lb gorilla' stuff, etc., etc.

Now, the Islamic-Arab-Oil 'thing' might involve some new
'fundamentals'...I will not profess to predict. However, Chinese 'FC'
involves devalued currency and they are beating the shit outta US industry
(like India is beating the shit outta US IT jobs, too).

Otherwise I would be
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Well, I recall a sick TV report how THEY (whomever) offer to donate XX,000
to some school if someone (over in you-know-where) will volunteer to carry
a bomb somewhere and when they are close enough, pull the switch. The ROI
is not in money...if you get my drift.

On Feb 22, 10:40 am, Straydog <a...[at]panix.com> wrote:
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Interesting, ... , and those mucky-mucks ... do they have the proven
track record of successful financial consulting? Otherwise I would be
somewhat cautious. They might rise money for suicide bombers in which
case I don't think it is successful investment.

Thank you Frank


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(Latin for "New Order of the Ages")

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Ok what does "Novus Ordo Serclorum" mean?



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On Thu, 22 Feb 2007, Old Pif wrote:

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Do you know that "Islamic bonds" are now on the market? And, they are
selling like hotcakes? I'm not kidding.

They are very official, very approved by the big mucky-mucks of Islam.

Better watch out. If you want oil in the future, maybe you need to look
for secret symbols on the bonds.

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007, carrera d'olbani wrote:

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Ahhhhhah...good quick response, but what is below is not a good answer.

;-)

If you look at the one-dollar
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yeah, yeah, yeah...Nostrodamus had all these vague predictions...and
DaVinci code (big deal), too...and we have this big corporation, Proctor &
Gamble, that had this weird logo and all the religious nuts went into
orbit about the devil, spirits, etc, evil...and made a big deal out of
it...

see below...

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Do you know about the Nazi swastika? Do you know that it can be found in
ancient artifacts as a symbol of something? How much stuff gets "stolen"
from a prior source and reused for a new reason?

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No argument with you on that but its not a new phenomenon. Go read your
history books. There were always kings, emperors, big bosses going back
thousands of years. Oh, yes, you know who were the first thugs? The
landlords (they convinced everyone that they owned the land, therefore YOU
had to pay rent and THEY could sit on their asses doing no work while YOU
did all the work to pay the rent). How do you like that? And, how did they
get that scam set up?

They control
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Yes. I've been saying this, here on src, for 10-15 years now. Call the job
'science' but in reality it is two jobs and the more important one is
_fundraising_ (i.e. grants and contracts). Science is second priority.
Oh...my mistake...science is third priority. Second priority is "watch out
for local lying, double-crossing, backstabbing politics."

Let' em worry about getting jobs. Then, those smart heads
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Changing the world order: i.e. the rich get richer, the poor get poorer.

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DGJ? Izatso? DGJ are you out there reading this? Fess up now...were your
ancestors masons?

"carrera d'olbani" <dolbani[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message
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If you see "New World Order" on a dollar bill it is time to get your eyes
examined
since it does NOT appear in Latin or any other language.
As for the number 13 that you ascribe magic to-
Did you ever hear or learn of "the thirteen original colonies"?

On Feb 22, 11:35 pm, Straydog <a...[at]panix.com> wrote:
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Aha ! I was expecting this question. If you look at the one-dollar
bill, you will see the other inscripture in Latin "New World Order"
and other pecularities. E.g. bold eagle (the seal was developed by
mason headed by Ben Franklin). He liked David star and the number 13.
You can see 13 steps on the pyramid, 13 stars above the eagle, 13
lines on the shield ovet the eagle, 13 leaves on the olive branch, 13
arrows in its hand. There are 32 feathers on the eagle's wing which is
the number of levels in the mason lodge, and there are 33 feathers on
the other eagle's wing which means the 33rd highest level.

Is not it curious to see on the banknote the symbols of not the
government but of some private organisation ? The matter is that the
new world order of the masons refutes everything national and
governmental. The masons divide people into the "initiated" ones and
"ignoramuses". So, what is it that lays on the surface but is not
noticeable by the "ignoramuses" ?

Anyway, to cut the story short, the US and the world are ruled by the
elite who set the rules keeping them wealthy and in rule. They control
finances, heavy industry,media, etc and so on. Including science. One
of the ways to keep the people in science obedient is to make their
life hard. Let' em worry about getting jobs. Then, those smart heads
will not be able to be preoccupied with the thoughts of what's wrong
with the world, and with changing the world's order.

BTW, I recall vaguely that I read somewhere that DGJ's anscestors were
masons. (Although I might be wrong on that.)

On Feb 22, 8:48 am, "Frank Arthur" <A...[at]Arthurian.com> wrote:
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For me personally this issue does not have so much weight as for
certain religious fanatics. It is fine with me if it stays just
because 9 out of 10 are the universal things. It is so happened that
the Jews have notified them first. It is fine as well if people move
them somewhere, although privately I am surprised that people bother
as if they have nothing else to do.

No where in the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution of the
United States
has the word Jesus or any religion ever mentioned. The only reference made
is to
a diety "God".

"carrera d'olbani" <dolbani[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Why should a religious thing like the Jewish Ten Commandments be posted on
"public" government owned land? Would you support pictures of the Pope
or quotes from the Quaran on "public" government owned land?

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On Thu, 21 Feb 2007, carrera d'olbani wrote:

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Every country that has a mint (a place where money, paper or coin, is
made), also has a history of the artwork that goes on that money.

Here is a question for you: during the second world war, Germany put "Gott
straff Aengland" on its postage stamps and in England they put "God save
the Queen" so let me ask you: do you think God was listening?

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How? What matter what is on the money as long as it will let you buy
something.

On Feb 22, 1:05 am, "carrera d'olbani" <dolb...[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
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In God We Trust, Incorporated

On Feb 22, 1:05 am, "carrera d'olbani" <dolb...[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
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May be it is the only reason why it still survived. Otherwise it would
be removed like Ten Commandments from the public places.

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Everything is connected to careers in science.

If there was such a thing as a "Creator" he/she wouldn't be so stupid as to
have one religion over another!

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