The ticker symbols used by Money are not Microsoft creations.

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Michael Gordon


"Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
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The reason I asked was to have you verify in Money that this was the symbol
that Money had.
Money typically identifies money market mutual funds as funds ending in two
Xs (e.g. ABCXX).
So, I was just wondering if somehow the symbol had been wrong.

-Mark



"Cedar-D" <CedarD[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Cedar-D and Michael,

I also tried this and Money seems to have handled it properly. That doesn't
mean, of course, that it always has and always will. I still have a few
things to try and will report back.
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Bill Becker


"Michael Gordon" wrote:

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I just entered a new purchase of TIPBX, identifying it as a mutual fund.
Money found the investment, updated the current price (10.12) and still
calls it a mutual fund. Not sure why you had a different result, but -- as
we suspected -- it isn't something Money did.

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Michael Gordon


"Cedar-D" <CedarD[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Hi Michael,
Yes- somewhere amidst all these posts (it's very confusing for someone (me)
who isn't used to discussion groups):
the symbol for the Bond Plus fund is TIPBX
And- as I wrote somewhere, I don't download from TIAA-CREF, I use paper
statements & enter transactions myself. Apparently, where I got into trouble
was in Money's updates of fund prices (when I listed the symbol).
Cedar

"Michael Gordon" wrote:

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Hi Mark-
I was (now deleted- tho is makes no difference) TIPBX
These posts get so long- you probably didn't see it written there. I'm
just beginning to see how this works!
Cedar

"Mark" wrote:

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Did you ever provide us with the ticker you're using?

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Michael Gordon


"Cedar-D" <CedarD[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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The online update within Money gets the new prices (if the fund symbol is
entered- which it was when the fund was re-categorized by the Money program).
When I purchase funds, I enter the transaction manually (as a transfer from
my checking account). when I get a transaction confirmation (in the mail,
from TIAA). I don't get online data from TIAA.

Cedar

"Michael Gordon" wrote:

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How does the data get from TIAA to you When I last dealt with TIAA -- when I
retired a few years ago -- it only offered export to Quicken.

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Michael Gordon


"Cedar-D" <CedarD[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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What symbol are you using?

-Mark

"Cedar-D" <CedarD[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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In microsoft.public.money, Cedar-D wrote:

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Changing 6 transactions per minute, if you have 6 transactions per
year for 10 years, that comes to ten minutes.

Yes- I noticed the $1.00 was filled in for the price & I had to change it.
This has been going on for a long time- I hadn't know there was a Community
to go to for help. I've got years worth of transactions I'd have to change.
Cedar

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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Hi Michael-
I don't know what to tell you. That is what happened. When I first entered
the account info, I "told" Money it was a mutual fund. I also entered the
symbol. I noticed the problem when I used the allocation tool and saw,
according to Money, I had too much money in Money Market accounts. Then I
saw my Bond Plus fund was listed as Money Market/Cash.
When I go to the "Detail" window- there is no option for Mutual Fund. I just
tried putting the symbol back in & did an online update, to see if it would
correct- it did not.
Again- any ideas to fix this are appreciated. As I wrote before, since
each purchase is tied to my checking account, I can't delete the account
without deleting all the transactions in my checking account.
Thanks,
Cedar

"Michael Gordon" wrote:

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In microsoft.public.money, Cedar-D wrote:

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It's surprising that this particular thing went on. The
MMF has its price fixed at $1.00. Keep an extra copy/backup of your
file at various stages in case you want to undo something.

================ Changing MMF to Mutual Fund =====================

It is not trivial, but not as hard as it first appears. A few
minutes should do it.

In the details, remove the existing symbol, and rename the existing
"MMF" to something you will never use. Let's suppose you choose
zzzz.

Create a new Fund with the correct name and symbol.

Go back to investment zzzz and choose View: Investment Details.
Enter a fake new Buy dated before all other transactions with
quantity more than the total of other "MMF" transactions.

Change each non-fake transaction to the fund using the drop-down
list. Start with the oldest transaction. Particular attention
should be made to not change the total. So you will want blank the
price, and to change the quantity to the actual number of shares
you transacted. You will probably need to work with the order of
things. If you lose the total for a transaction you are working
on, press the Esc key to get out of that edit attempt, and try
again.

Keep going until there are no more zzzz transactions remaining
except the fake transaction. Delete the fake Buy transaction. At
that point you can "delete" zzzz.
=================================

If you have trouble with downloads wanting to match to zzzz after
the change, there is a process that can deal with that, if you are
motivated.

Keep an extra backup from *after* you make the above change, but
*before* you attempt to download transactions from your broker /
fund company.

Hi-
No, I haven't managed to resolve it.
The fund is TIPBX- TIAA-CREF Bond Plus mutual fund.
Morningstar lists as Category Intermediate-Term Bond

Thanks for any suggestions.
Cedar

"Bill Becker" wrote:

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Well, let's see what the original posters have to say -- I can't imagine a
situation in which Money would change an investment type.

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Michael Gordon


"Bill Becker" <BillBecker[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Michael,
I don’t know about downloads because I only do manual entry. However, the
original posters (John and Cedar-D) indicated that they entered the problem
investment manually as a mutual fund and that Money had subsequently changed
the investment type to money market.

I asked for the specific investment so that I could do a test to reproduce
the misbehavior.

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Bill Becker


"Michael Gordon" wrote:

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Money doesn't determine what kind of investment a security is; some FIs do
and that determination then can be downloaded into Money.

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Michael Gordon


"Bill Becker" <BillBecker[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Cedar,
Did you ever resolve this? What was the symbol of the bond fund that Money
2007 set as investment type Money Market?
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Bill Becker


"Cedar-D" wrote:

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Hi-
I've had a similar problem I hoped would be fixed when I installed Money
2007. Money categorized a bond mutual fund as a money market fund after I put
in the symbol. It most definitely is a bond fund. I took out the symbol. as
you do, I enter all transactions manually & they (unfortunately) connect with
my checking account- so I can't just delete the account & start over. I
tried in "Details" to change to Other- the only other option- but it wouldn't
let me. It's this software's bug & I want it to fix it so I can make use of
asset allocation- it makes a difference!
My situation is, I think, different- but- were you able to change the way
Money categorized your account? I really need help with this.

Cedar

"John" wrote:

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