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| I dont know if I can help but I just installed 2007 and downloaded from TDAmeritrade. It works for me except that the MMF shows ex. qaunity 231.34 and cost 0. So I just plugged in 1 for cost and it shows the correct value of my cash in the MMF. If you follow the tranaction of a dividend etc. it goes in cash account then buys MMF and cash goes back to 0. Maybe its sort of fixed in 2007? "W'" wrote: - quote - > I have an account with TDAmeritrade in which the cash balance is swept into a > money market fund. I have created a fictitious fund in M06 as a money market > fund. However, when I download the account transactions, the money market > info will not download as money market fund transactions, even if the symbols > are made to be the same. M06 forces me to put the transactions into a stock > fund. > I don't have the same problem with Vanguard accounts, so I suspect there is > a short between the head phones at TDAmeritrade. But just in case someone > else has the same experience, I thought I'd post this information here and > hope for someone to comment. |
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| In microsoft.public.money, William R Wood wrote: - quote - > "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote in message
OK. I thought that you might have been musing that if he asks for> > In microsoft.public.money, William R Wood wrote: > <snip> Cal, > Maybe I am confused. Not trying to be funny or imply anything. ![]() > Just noting that the regular bank money market acct that TDAM uses as a > sweep account pays very low interest. The separate money market mutual fund > (CMFMZ) is now paying 4.9%, not great but way better than the bank money > market. I don't know what the bank money market rate is as of now but it > was under 1% when I made them put my money in CMFMZ. and receives the MMF (it still CMFMZ?) that he would have the side effect of having to "suffer" with higher interest rates too. <snip> I know what you mean about data entry errors but since I am retired I have - quote - > plenty of time to catch my mistakes. I reconcile my accounts at least
That brings new meaning to "active investor".> monthly so I do pick up errors pretty fast. When I was trading full time I > kept a completely separate record of my trades in Excel because Money will > not produce the reports I wanted to to track my results. I entered all data > into my Excel spreadsheet manually too. I needed something to do while I > was watching the ticks come in on my trading software. The Excel stuff> was also useful to verify that Money's balances were correct. I am confident the CMFMZ Buy and Sell downloads would have worked for you once set up. You probably also had to track your wash sales in your spreadsheet, since Money does not. |
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| "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message news:7i0it2dmlals8u2hnf69bjh0uqp33etffd[at]4ax.com... - quote - > In microsoft.public.money, William R Wood wrote:
Cal,> > > That might work as a way of solving the Money problem but the regular bank > > sweep account pays hardly any interest. > > > They tried to put my money into the bank money market account and I took a > > fit and made them put it back into the MMF for rich people even though I > > ain't rich. No way are they keeping my money in a bank account that> > pays real low interest. So the only solution seems to be manual entry of > > data. > > I am not sure if you are being funny, or if you are implying that > having the real MMF at AMTD does not cause Money downloads from AMTD > to work properly. Maybe I am confused. Not trying to be funny or imply anything. ![]() Just noting that the regular bank money market acct that TDAM uses as a sweep account pays very low interest. The separate money market mutual fund (CMFMZ) is now paying 4.9%, not great but way better than the bank money market. I don't know what the bank money market rate is as of now but it was under 1% when I made them put my money in CMFMZ. I have been a Waterhouse customer for about 20 years and I have never been able to download Waterhouse or TDWaterhouse (I never tried to download since they became TDAM) data into Money and have it make sense. The strange negative and positive numbers they use to handle purchases and sales of CMFMZ mangle my cash account linked to the investment account. Maybe it does work if you fiddle with it enough but I never had the energy to try. After I saw the mess that the downloads made, I simply deleted the downloaded data and continued to enter my transactions manually. - quote - > > The MMF is a separate mutual fund and TDAM must buy and sell shares of
Obviously, you know more than me. As I said above I never could download> > that > > fund every time they deposit or withdraw money for you. Since those > > shares > > cannot be accounted for like cash it totally screws Money up because Money > > wants you to track your cash in the cash account linked to your investment > > account. I really don't know how the broker can resolve this issue. > > Maybe > > Money needs to be modified to handle the situation as it actually is - > > namely the sweep account in question is a money market mutual fund that > > does > > business in shares and not a bank account that deals with cash. > > Back in the TD days, the CMFMZ MMF worked well downloading into > Microsoft Money. They would do Buys and Sells as well as Dividends. > The Money cash transactions account balance would be zero, unless > there was an unsettled trade. That made it very easy to spot > something amiss. data and have it make sense. I tried during the Waterhouse days and later during the TDWaterhouse days. I stopped upgrading Money after Money 2002. Don't know if later versions worked better. - quote - > If I enter data by hand, I *will* have a lot of errors. While
I know what you mean about data entry errors but since I am retired I have> downloading can require checking and occasional dealing with a > missing or duplicated transaction, the occurrence of that is much > lower than my error rate. Plus I am better at finding the mistakes > of others than I am at finding my own errors. :-) plenty of time to catch my mistakes. I reconcile my accounts at least monthly so I do pick up errors pretty fast. When I was trading full time I kept a completely separate record of my trades in Excel because Money will not produce the reports I wanted to to track my results. I entered all data into my Excel spreadsheet manually too. I needed something to do while I was watching the ticks come in on my trading software. The Excel stuffwas also useful to verify that Money's balances were correct. - quote - > > Or, maybe TDAM can get together with Vanguard and try to copy what they do > > since their money market accounts apparently work ok. I do have a money > > market account with Vanguard but I never tried to download the data, I > > have > > so few transactions that I just type them in manually. > Don't count on Vanguard doing it perfectly either. |
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| In microsoft.public.money, William R Wood wrote: - quote - > That might work as a way of solving the Money problem but the regular bank
having the real MMF at AMTD does not cause Money downloads from AMTD> sweep account pays hardly any interest. > They tried to put my money into the bank money market account and I took a > fit and made them put it back into the MMF for rich people even though I > ain't rich. No way are they keeping my money in a bank account that> pays real low interest. So the only solution seems to be manual entry of > data. I am not sure if you are being funny, or if you are implying that to work properly. - quote - > The MMF is a separate mutual fund and TDAM must buy and sell shares of that
Microsoft Money. They would do Buys and Sells as well as Dividends.> fund every time they deposit or withdraw money for you. Since those shares > cannot be accounted for like cash it totally screws Money up because Money > wants you to track your cash in the cash account linked to your investment > account. I really don't know how the broker can resolve this issue. Maybe > Money needs to be modified to handle the situation as it actually is - > namely the sweep account in question is a money market mutual fund that does > business in shares and not a bank account that deals with cash. Back in the TD days, the CMFMZ MMF worked well downloading into The Money cash transactions account balance would be zero, unless there was an unsettled trade. That made it very easy to spot something amiss. If I enter data by hand, I *will* have a lot of errors. While downloading can require checking and occasional dealing with a missing or duplicated transaction, the occurrence of that is much lower than my error rate. Plus I am better at finding the mistakes of others than I am at finding my own errors. :-) - quote - > Or, maybe TDAM can get together with Vanguard and try to copy what they do
Don't count on Vanguard doing it perfectly either.> since their money market accounts apparently work ok. I do have a money > market account with Vanguard but I never tried to download the data, I have > so few transactions that I just type them in manually. |
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| Cal, That might work as a way of solving the Money problem but the regular bank sweep account pays hardly any interest. They tried to put my money into the bank money market account and I took a fit and made them put it back into the MMF for rich people even though I ain't rich. No way are they keeping my money in a bank account thatpays real low interest. So the only solution seems to be manual entry of data. The MMF is a separate mutual fund and TDAM must buy and sell shares of that fund every time they deposit or withdraw money for you. Since those shares cannot be accounted for like cash it totally screws Money up because Money wants you to track your cash in the cash account linked to your investment account. I really don't know how the broker can resolve this issue. Maybe Money needs to be modified to handle the situation as it actually is - namely the sweep account in question is a money market mutual fund that does business in shares and not a bank account that deals with cash. Or, maybe TDAM can get together with Vanguard and try to copy what they do since their money market accounts apparently work ok. I do have a money market account with Vanguard but I never tried to download the data, I have so few transactions that I just type them in manually. Regards Bill Wood "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message news:jp5ht2hd2sunlves6og6jp6i1ljkabqtqt[at]4ax.com... - quote - > In microsoft.public.money, W' wrote: > > I have an account with TDAmeritrade in which the cash balance is swept > > into a > > money market fund. I have created a fictitious fund in M06 as a money > > market > > fund. However, when I download the account transactions, the money market > > info will not download as money market fund transactions, even if the > > symbols > > are made to be the same. M06 forces me to put the transactions into a > > stock > > fund. > I suggest you ask them to make your sweep account the MMF that they > normally only give to people who have a lot of Money in cash. Point > out that that would fix the Microsoft Money problem for you while > they get the problem with the bank money market fixed. A nice > snail-mail letter to Joe Moglia's office might help if your initial > request is not met. > > > I don't have the same problem with Vanguard accounts, so I suspect there > > is > > a short between the head phones at TDAmeritrade. But just in case someone > > else has the same experience, I thought I'd post this information here and > > hope for someone to comment. |
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| In microsoft.public.money, W' wrote: - quote - > I have an account with TDAmeritrade in which the cash balance is swept into a
I suggest you ask them to make your sweep account the MMF that they> money market fund. I have created a fictitious fund in M06 as a money market > fund. However, when I download the account transactions, the money market > info will not download as money market fund transactions, even if the symbols > are made to be the same. M06 forces me to put the transactions into a stock > fund. normally only give to people who have a lot of Money in cash. Point out that that would fix the Microsoft Money problem for you while they get the problem with the bank money market fixed. A nice snail-mail letter to Joe Moglia's office might help if your initial request is not met. - quote - > I don't have the same problem with Vanguard accounts, so I suspect there is > a short between the head phones at TDAmeritrade. But just in case someone > else has the same experience, I thought I'd post this information here and > hope for someone to comment. |
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| On Feb 18, 9:49 am, W' <W...[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: - quote - > I wonder if TDAM even knows there is a problem?
There have been problems with downloads since last fall when theycreated the money market sweep. At the time TDAmeritrade said they were aware of the problem and working on a solution but I don't know if it ever got resolved. I manually enter transactions now for this account and haven't bothered trying auto updates again. Regards, JB |
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| I wonder if TDAM even knows there is a problem? (I'm guess it is TDAM's problem since Vanguard works fine.) Thx for the history. "William R Wood" wrote: - quote - > I am a long time TDWaterhouse, now TDAmeritrade customer. For whatever its > worth, I gave up trying to download data from TDAM into Money (I use M2002). > I simply enter all transactions manually. The problem with cash being swept > into the money market fund (CMF) did me in too. I fiddled with the problem > for a long time and finally gave up. It was years ago that I last tried but > I guess the problem persists. Anyway I had no trouble entering transactions > manually even when I made my living day trading stocks and options and I > still enter everything manually today. > Regards > Bill Wood > "W'" <W[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:00856046-EBCF-428B-A60E-E58A594C5DED[at]microsoft.com... > > I have an account with TDAmeritrade in which the cash balance is swept into > > a > > money market fund. I have created a fictitious fund in M06 as a money > > market > > fund. However, when I download the account transactions, the money market > > info will not download as money market fund transactions, even if the > > symbols > > are made to be the same. M06 forces me to put the transactions into a > > stock > > fund. > > > I don't have the same problem with Vanguard accounts, so I suspect there > > is > > a short between the head phones at TDAmeritrade. But just in case someone > > else has the same experience, I thought I'd post this information here and > > hope for someone to comment. |
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| I am a long time TDWaterhouse, now TDAmeritrade customer. For whatever its worth, I gave up trying to download data from TDAM into Money (I use M2002). I simply enter all transactions manually. The problem with cash being swept into the money market fund (CMF) did me in too. I fiddled with the problem for a long time and finally gave up. It was years ago that I last tried but I guess the problem persists. Anyway I had no trouble entering transactions manually even when I made my living day trading stocks and options and I still enter everything manually today. Regards Bill Wood "W'" <W[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:00856046-EBCF-428B-A60E-E58A594C5DED[at]microsoft.com... - quote - > I have an account with TDAmeritrade in which the cash balance is swept into > a > money market fund. I have created a fictitious fund in M06 as a money > market > fund. However, when I download the account transactions, the money market > info will not download as money market fund transactions, even if the > symbols > are made to be the same. M06 forces me to put the transactions into a > stock > fund. > I don't have the same problem with Vanguard accounts, so I suspect there > is > a short between the head phones at TDAmeritrade. But just in case someone > else has the same experience, I thought I'd post this information here and > hope for someone to comment. |
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| I have an account with TDAmeritrade in which the cash balance is swept into a money market fund. I have created a fictitious fund in M06 as a money market fund. However, when I download the account transactions, the money market info will not download as money market fund transactions, even if the symbols are made to be the same. M06 forces me to put the transactions into a stock fund. I don't have the same problem with Vanguard accounts, so I suspect there is a short between the head phones at TDAmeritrade. But just in case someone else has the same experience, I thought I'd post this information here and hope for someone to comment. |
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