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Old 02-28-2007, 06:54 PM
Mark
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The split status is universal and assumed to have applied to all
transactions ("already entered")
So, if you enter older transactions after the split is already in the price
history list, Money will assume that the transactions have 'post-split'
numbers. (i.e. you've already adjusted for the splits).

Therefore options include:
1. enter all transactions with the post split info.
2. remove the splits from the price history (this will revert the "s" priced
transactions to their pre-split values), enter all of the pre-split
transactions for ALL accounts, THEN enter the split in the price history.

-Mark



"JRGraves" <jrgraves[at]knology.net> wrote in message
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> > > I deleted my Microsoft entry in my regular account and re-created it
> > > using
> > > the dropdown list and have the same results, the splits in the new
> > > account
> > > created from the dropdown list still do not work. It says "There is
> > > already
> > > a 3 for 2 split on that date. Do you want to replace it?" When I click on
> > > "OK" the split has no effect on the new (regular) account. Do I need to
> > > uninstall and reinstall Money 2007 for this to work??
> > > It sounds like you are trying to enter a split for the same security

> > twice. Then you are wondering why things did not change the second
> > time. Stock splits apply to the stock rather than to an account.
> > > > You buy 100 shares of XYZ in the regular investment account, and

> > then buy 200 shares of XYZ in the IRA. You enter a 3:2 split for
> > XYZ. Right away you have 150 shares of XYZ in the regular investment
> > account, and 300 shares of XYZ in the IRA. If you again enter a 3:2
> > split for XYZ again for the same date, neither account will change.
> > Cal,

> I understand what you are saying and agree with it but the problem is that
> it is not working for me. I have my MSFT stock entered in my IRA acct with
> the splits on the given dates (10 transactions and 4 splits). I just
> deleted MSFT in my regular account and re-entered it like you indicated
> without trying to enter any splits (10 transactions and 6 splits). This
> results in 704 shares and not 13,796 as it should with the splits. I have
> saved the file, closed Money and started it again and it still shows the
> 704 shares with no adjustments. How do I get it to adjust for the splits
> in this second account???? Do I need to start over and enter all the
> transactions in both accounts without the splits and then enter the splits
> in one account for it to work????
> Thanks,
> Jim G.



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Old 02-28-2007, 05:01 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, JRGraves wrote:

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> it is not working for me. I have my MSFT stock entered in my IRA acct with
> the splits on the given dates (10 transactions and 4 splits). I just deleted
> MSFT in my regular account and re-entered it like you indicated without
> trying to enter any splits (10 transactions and 6 splits). This results in
> 704 shares and not 13,796 as it should with the splits. I have saved the
> file, closed Money and started it again and it still shows the 704 shares
> with no adjustments. How do I get it to adjust for the splits in this second
> account???? Do I need to start over and enter all the transactions in both
> accounts without the splits and then enter the splits in one account for it
> to work????


Suppose you have entered a 2;1 split for MSFT dated 18 Feb 2003. If
you enter a Buy for 100 MSFT dated 1/1/2003, it will result in you
holding 200 shares in the account today. The Price for that 1/1/2003
transaction in the register would have an 's' after it to indicate
it had been adjusted for at least one split. If you entered a Buy
for 100 MSFT dated 3/3/2003, it would account for 100 shares in your
account today. There would be no 's' on the price for that later
transaction.

The splits apply to all holdings of the stock on the specified date.
Even if you deleted all transactions of a stock, that does not
delete the splits. A holding new buy transactions for a pre-split
date will be affected by the later-dated split.

To see the split history for a stock, go to the investment details
for the stock.
UpdatePrices-> UpdatePricesManually. Look through the table and find
the entries in the Source column that say "Stock Split". If is one
that should not be there, you can Delete it.
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Old 02-28-2007, 04:20 PM
JRGraves
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> > I deleted my Microsoft entry in my regular account and re-created it using
> > the dropdown list and have the same results, the splits in the new account
> > created from the dropdown list still do not work. It says "There is
> > already
> > a 3 for 2 split on that date. Do you want to replace it?" When I click on
> > "OK" the split has no effect on the new (regular) account. Do I need to
> > uninstall and reinstall Money 2007 for this to work??

> It sounds like you are trying to enter a split for the same security
> twice. Then you are wondering why things did not change the second
> time. Stock splits apply to the stock rather than to an account.
> You buy 100 shares of XYZ in the regular investment account, and
> then buy 200 shares of XYZ in the IRA. You enter a 3:2 split for
> XYZ. Right away you have 150 shares of XYZ in the regular investment
> account, and 300 shares of XYZ in the IRA. If you again enter a 3:2
> split for XYZ again for the same date, neither account will change.

Cal,
I understand what you are saying and agree with it but the problem is that
it is not working for me. I have my MSFT stock entered in my IRA acct with
the splits on the given dates (10 transactions and 4 splits). I just deleted
MSFT in my regular account and re-entered it like you indicated without
trying to enter any splits (10 transactions and 6 splits). This results in
704 shares and not 13,796 as it should with the splits. I have saved the
file, closed Money and started it again and it still shows the 704 shares
with no adjustments. How do I get it to adjust for the splits in this second
account???? Do I need to start over and enter all the transactions in both
accounts without the splits and then enter the splits in one account for it
to work????
Thanks,
Jim G.


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Old 02-28-2007, 03:39 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, JRGraves wrote:

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> > > Hi Cal,
> > > I am not quite sure what you are asking but all my data has been manually
> > > entered. Nothing has been downloaded from a financial institution.
> > > Any words of wisdom will be greatly appreciated...
> > > OK.
> > > Create a security only once. Thereafter choose it from the drop-down

> > list.

> I deleted my Microsoft entry in my regular account and re-created it using
> the dropdown list and have the same results, the splits in the new account
> created from the dropdown list still do not work. It says "There is already
> a 3 for 2 split on that date. Do you want to replace it?" When I click on
> "OK" the split has no effect on the new (regular) account. Do I need to
> uninstall and reinstall Money 2007 for this to work??


It sounds like you are trying to enter a split for the same security
twice. Then you are wondering why things did not change the second
time. Stock splits apply to the stock rather than to an account.


You buy 100 shares of XYZ in the regular investment account, and
then buy 200 shares of XYZ in the IRA. You enter a 3:2 split for
XYZ. Right away you have 150 shares of XYZ in the regular investment
account, and 300 shares of XYZ in the IRA. If you again enter a 3:2
split for XYZ again for the same date, neither account will change.

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Old 02-28-2007, 02:27 PM
JRGraves
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> > Hi Cal,
> > I am not quite sure what you are asking but all my data has been manually
> > entered. Nothing has been downloaded from a financial institution.
> > Any words of wisdom will be greatly appreciated...

> OK.
> Create a security only once. Thereafter choose it from the drop-down
> list.


I deleted my Microsoft entry in my regular account and re-created it using
the dropdown list and have the same results, the splits in the new account
created from the dropdown list still do not work. It says "There is already
a 3 for 2 split on that date. Do you want to replace it?" When I click on
"OK" the split has no effect on the new (regular) account. Do I need to
uninstall and reinstall Money 2007 for this to work??
Thanks,
Jim G.



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Old 02-28-2007, 04:18 AM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, JRGraves wrote:

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> Hi Cal,
> I am not quite sure what you are asking but all my data has been manually
> entered. Nothing has been downloaded from a financial institution.
> Any words of wisdom will be greatly appreciated...


OK.

Create a security only once. Thereafter choose it from the drop-down
list.

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> Thanks, Jim G.
> "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
> news:3du9u291pnf7ndhfjll8aftke4ui8fda4p[at]4ax.com...
> > In microsoft.public.money, JRGraves wrote:
> > > > I am also having problems with Money Deluxe 2007 Portfolio Manager. I have
> > > my regular stock account and also my IRA stock account. When I enter a
> > > stock, such as Intel into my regular account, I have no problems. But then
> > > when I go to enter the same stock, ie Intel, into my IRA account, it will
> > > not recognize the stock splits. It says the split already exists and when
> > > I
> > > click OK the split is not recognized. I have the same problem whenever I
> > > have the same stocks in more than one account. Does anyone know how to
> > > solve
> > > this problem. I have the latest updates (SP2) in Money and am using XP Pro
> > > SP2. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
> > > Fidelity NetBenefits?

>
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Old 02-28-2007, 02:55 AM
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Default Re: Investments

Hi Cal,
I am not quite sure what you are asking but all my data has been manually
entered. Nothing has been downloaded from a financial institution.
Any words of wisdom will be greatly appreciated...
Thanks, Jim G.

"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, JRGraves wrote:
> > I am also having problems with Money Deluxe 2007 Portfolio Manager. I have
> > my regular stock account and also my IRA stock account. When I enter a
> > stock, such as Intel into my regular account, I have no problems. But then
> > when I go to enter the same stock, ie Intel, into my IRA account, it will
> > not recognize the stock splits. It says the split already exists and when
> > I
> > click OK the split is not recognized. I have the same problem whenever I
> > have the same stocks in more than one account. Does anyone know how to
> > solve
> > this problem. I have the latest updates (SP2) in Money and am using XP Pro
> > SP2. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

> Fidelity NetBenefits?



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Old 02-28-2007, 02:41 AM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, JRGraves wrote:

- quote -

> I am also having problems with Money Deluxe 2007 Portfolio Manager. I have
> my regular stock account and also my IRA stock account. When I enter a
> stock, such as Intel into my regular account, I have no problems. But then
> when I go to enter the same stock, ie Intel, into my IRA account, it will
> not recognize the stock splits. It says the split already exists and when I
> click OK the split is not recognized. I have the same problem whenever I
> have the same stocks in more than one account. Does anyone know how to solve
> this problem. I have the latest updates (SP2) in Money and am using XP Pro
> SP2. Any help will be greatly appreciated.


Fidelity NetBenefits?

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Old 02-28-2007, 02:19 AM
JRGraves
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Default Re: Investments

I am also having problems with Money Deluxe 2007 Portfolio Manager. I have
my regular stock account and also my IRA stock account. When I enter a
stock, such as Intel into my regular account, I have no problems. But then
when I go to enter the same stock, ie Intel, into my IRA account, it will
not recognize the stock splits. It says the split already exists and when I
click OK the split is not recognized. I have the same problem whenever I
have the same stocks in more than one account. Does anyone know how to solve
this problem. I have the latest updates (SP2) in Money and am using XP Pro
SP2. Any help will be greatly appreciated. I am so frustrated that I am
about ready to go and buy Quicken!! Please help...
Thanks,
Jim G. - Georgia - USA

"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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> In microsoft.public.money, John Barnes wrote:
> > I have several investments that need to be listed several times in several
> > categories. I need one fund name and symbol included in 3 categories, one
> > in my IRA, one in my non IRA investments and one in my wife's IRA.
> > Money will not let me use the same fund name and/or symbol in more than
> > one
> > category. Says already in use in both cases. I now have them named
> > differently and have no symbols, so have to update the others manually.
> > This partially makes the investments section a pain and somewhat useless.

> If you are using Money 2007 Deluxe or above, there is a new feature
> that could make the combining easier.



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Old 02-12-2007, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: Investments

Glad I could help. How this is supposed to work is not obvious to many
people the first time they get there. That's why it's a FAQ.

"John Barnes" <jbarnes[at]email.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks


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Old 02-12-2007, 02:16 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, John Barnes wrote:

- quote -

> I have several investments that need to be listed several times in several
> categories. I need one fund name and symbol included in 3 categories, one
> in my IRA, one in my non IRA investments and one in my wife's IRA.
> Money will not let me use the same fund name and/or symbol in more than one
> category. Says already in use in both cases. I now have them named
> differently and have no symbols, so have to update the others manually.
> This partially makes the investments section a pain and somewhat useless.


If you are using Money 2007 Deluxe or above, there is a new feature
that could make the combining easier.
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Old 02-12-2007, 01:15 PM
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Thanks

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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> See http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=59.
> "John Barnes" <jbarnes[at]email.net> wrote in message
> news:%23ixkAeqTHHA.4668[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > I have several investments that need to be listed several times in several
> > categories. I need one fund name and symbol included in 3 categories, one
> > in my IRA, one in my non IRA investments and one in my wife's IRA.
> > Money will not let me use the same fund name and/or symbol in more than
> > one category. Says already in use in both cases. I now have them named
> > differently and have no symbols, so have to update the others manually.
> > This partially makes the investments section a pain and somewhat useless.


 
Old 02-12-2007, 12:19 PM
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See http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=59.

"John Barnes" <jbarnes[at]email.net> wrote in message
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- quote -

> I have several investments that need to be listed several times in several
> categories. I need one fund name and symbol included in 3 categories, one
> in my IRA, one in my non IRA investments and one in my wife's IRA.
> Money will not let me use the same fund name and/or symbol in more than
> one category. Says already in use in both cases. I now have them named
> differently and have no symbols, so have to update the others manually.
> This partially makes the investments section a pain and somewhat useless.



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Old 02-12-2007, 12:12 PM
John Barnes
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Default Investments

I have several investments that need to be listed several times in several
categories. I need one fund name and symbol included in 3 categories, one
in my IRA, one in my non IRA investments and one in my wife's IRA.
Money will not let me use the same fund name and/or symbol in more than one
category. Says already in use in both cases. I now have them named
differently and have no symbols, so have to update the others manually.
This partially makes the investments section a pain and somewhat useless.

 

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