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Old 11-26-2006, 05:26 AM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, ilink4gray wrote:

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> > Whooaaa! I thought of doing that but hadn't. After reading your post, I
> tried it. I don't believe it. When I put in a deposit, the balance
> duplicates the amount. To be sure I immediately added another deposit of a
> lesser amount and the result was the same ie the balance duplicated the new
> amount. Obviously something is clearly wrong with my program.
> I closed Money and reopened it. The balances are different, but still very
> messed up. It added to the balance after the first test deposit by $50 when
> the amount was just under $2,000. Then after the second test deposit the
> balance equaled the deposit amount. I wouldn't be surprised if you were
> confused by my description because I'm confused just looking at my screen.
> I think I should try reinstalling the program. That is, if I can find the
> install disk. Do you concur??


Step 1 is File-> Repair-> QuickFileRepair. Guess you tried that
already.

Step 2 is to open Sample.mny or to create a new file (select Decline
in the process) to see how that behaves. If step 2 has the same
symptom, reinstall Money.

If Step 2 did not show that symptom, Do a
File-> Repair-> StandardFileRepair on your file. Guess you tried that
already also. Perhaps you could try level 1 this time.

If still no joy, consider trying the Money 2007 Deluxe trial. Make a
copy of your Money 2005 file with a new name, and let Money 2007
convert that.

If you can't fix it, then consider QIF export and import to a new
file. Or just do QIF export from that one account, delete the
account, and re-create the account. File-> Import the QIF, or perhaps
you will get most of what you need from just downloading from the
bank.

Also, if you have a backup that pre-dates the problem that would not
take a lot of catch-up, you could consider File-> Restore. Since
Money 2005 does not make multiple backups as Money 2007 does, it is
unlikely you will have a suitable backup file to consider that.

  #9  
Old 11-26-2006, 02:16 AM
ilink4gray
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Default Re: Deposits are subtracted, expensed added!



"Chris Cowles" wrote:

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> "ilink4gray" <ilink4gray[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A62B34C0-A773-44EA-9EC2-241A46E05898[at]microsoft.com...
> > > Well, I reinstalled the program. It updated itself. But of course, when

> > I
> > open the file all is the same. It's all messed up. This is disturbing
> > to
> > me. I have been using Money since 2000 with very little problems. Is
> > 2005
> > more buggy than other versions or am I just unlucky? Any suggestions as
> > to
> > what to do would be greatly appreciated!!

> Have you tried the salvage programs?

I believe you are referring to the repair options under "File" and the menu
bar. If so, yes. That's what I said in my original post. I tried the quick
and the standard repair (or salvage) options. Nothing changed. If you mean
something else, let me know.
  #8  
Old 11-26-2006, 01:54 AM
Chris Cowles
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Default Re: Deposits are subtracted, expensed added!

"ilink4gray" <ilink4gray[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A62B34C0-A773-44EA-9EC2-241A46E05898[at]microsoft.com...
- quote -

> Well, I reinstalled the program. It updated itself. But of course, when
> I
> open the file all is the same. It's all messed up. This is disturbing
> to
> me. I have been using Money since 2000 with very little problems. Is
> 2005
> more buggy than other versions or am I just unlucky? Any suggestions as
> to
> what to do would be greatly appreciated!!


Have you tried the salvage programs?


  #7  
Old 11-26-2006, 01:44 AM
ilink4gray
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Default Re: Deposits are subtracted, expensed added!



"ilink4gray" wrote:

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> "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:
> > In microsoft.public.money, ilink4gray wrote:
> > > > > > The account is set up as a bank account as far as I can tell. I believe
> > > Money recognizes it as a bank account because when I go to the Account list,
> > > the account is listed under the "Bank Accounts" group.
> > > I expect it is. You can right-click the account in the Account List,

> > and choose See ... Settings if you wanted to make sure.
> > > > > > > Money is displaying my balances in RED because they are negative. They are
> > > negative because my deposits are being subtracted. In other words, when a
> > > deposit (which is in black numbers) shows up on an entry the next balance
> > > line shows an increase in the negative (red) number under the balance column.
> > > So the balance improperly becomes more negative after a deposit.
> > > > When an expense is recorded, it reduces the negative (red) balance
> > > correspondingly.
> > > > > I hope this is clear.
> > > Yes. It indicates that what I thought might be the problem was not

> > the problem.
> > > You might check to see if the same thing happens for a test deposit

> > that you enter my hand. I am not sure what it would indicate, and
> > perhaps you have already done that with the same effect.
> > > Whooaaa! I thought of doing that but hadn't. After reading your post, I

> tried it. I don't believe it. When I put in a deposit, the balance
> duplicates the amount. To be sure I immediately added another deposit of a
> lesser amount and the result was the same ie the balance duplicated the new
> amount. Obviously something is clearly wrong with my program.
> I closed Money and reopened it. The balances are different, but still very
> messed up. It added to the balance after the first test deposit by $50 when
> the amount was just under $2,000. Then after the second test deposit the
> balance equaled the deposit amount. I wouldn't be surprised if you were
> confused by my description because I'm confused just looking at my screen.
> I think I should try reinstalling the program. That is, if I can find the
> install disk. Do you concur??


Well, I reinstalled the program. It updated itself. But of course, when I
open the file all is the same. It's all messed up. This is disturbing to
me. I have been using Money since 2000 with very little problems. Is 2005
more buggy than other versions or am I just unlucky? Any suggestions as to
what to do would be greatly appreciated!!
  #6  
Old 11-26-2006, 01:17 AM
ilink4gray
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Default Re: Deposits are subtracted, expensed added!



"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, ilink4gray wrote:
> > > The account is set up as a bank account as far as I can tell. I believe

> > Money recognizes it as a bank account because when I go to the Account list,
> > the account is listed under the "Bank Accounts" group.

> I expect it is. You can right-click the account in the Account List,
> and choose See ... Settings if you wanted to make sure.
> > > Money is displaying my balances in RED because they are negative. They are

> > negative because my deposits are being subtracted. In other words, when a
> > deposit (which is in black numbers) shows up on an entry the next balance
> > line shows an increase in the negative (red) number under the balance column.

> So the balance improperly becomes more negative after a deposit.
> > When an expense is recorded, it reduces the negative (red) balance
> > correspondingly.
> > > I hope this is clear.

> Yes. It indicates that what I thought might be the problem was not
> the problem.
> You might check to see if the same thing happens for a test deposit
> that you enter my hand. I am not sure what it would indicate, and
> perhaps you have already done that with the same effect.

Whooaaa! I thought of doing that but hadn't. After reading your post, I
tried it. I don't believe it. When I put in a deposit, the balance
duplicates the amount. To be sure I immediately added another deposit of a
lesser amount and the result was the same ie the balance duplicated the new
amount. Obviously something is clearly wrong with my program.

I closed Money and reopened it. The balances are different, but still very
messed up. It added to the balance after the first test deposit by $50 when
the amount was just under $2,000. Then after the second test deposit the
balance equaled the deposit amount. I wouldn't be surprised if you were
confused by my description because I'm confused just looking at my screen.

I think I should try reinstalling the program. That is, if I can find the
install disk. Do you concur??
  #5  
Old 11-25-2006, 11:50 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: Deposits are subtracted, expensed added!

In microsoft.public.money, ilink4gray wrote:

- quote -

> The account is set up as a bank account as far as I can tell. I believe
> Money recognizes it as a bank account because when I go to the Account list,
> the account is listed under the "Bank Accounts" group.


I expect it is. You can right-click the account in the Account List,
and choose See ... Settings if you wanted to make sure.


- quote -

> Money is displaying my balances in RED because they are negative. They are
> negative because my deposits are being subtracted. In other words, when a
> deposit (which is in black numbers) shows up on an entry the next balance
> line shows an increase in the negative (red) number under the balance column.


So the balance improperly becomes more negative after a deposit.

- quote -

> When an expense is recorded, it reduces the negative (red) balance
> correspondingly.
> I hope this is clear.


Yes. It indicates that what I thought might be the problem was not
the problem.

You might check to see if the same thing happens for a test deposit
that you enter my hand. I am not sure what it would indicate, and
perhaps you have already done that with the same effect.

  #4  
Old 11-25-2006, 11:22 PM
ilink4gray
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Default Re: Deposits are subtracted, expensed added!

To be clearer: yes, I'm referring to downloaded transactions, not manually
input ones.

"Chris Cowles" wrote:

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> Are you referring to transactions downloaded from the bank? If so, by what
> means do you download them?
> --
> Chris Cowles
> Gainesville, FL
> "ilink4gray" <ilink4gray[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B221E22D-2FE1-44FC-83F5-24D96BC8D5F9[at]microsoft.com...
> > I'm using Money2005. Hadn't used it in a while due to log on errors with
> > my
> > bank. That's now resolved. However, the math seems to have reversed. My
> > deposits are subtracted from the balances and the expenses are added to
> > the
> > balance. If I reverse the sign for a deposit, Money changes it to an
> > expense
> > and then adds it to the balance. The same in reverse if I do this with
> > an
> > expense. I tried the quick and standard file repairs with no effect.
> > Any
> > ideas????

  #3  
Old 11-25-2006, 11:00 PM
ilink4gray
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Default Re: Deposits are subtracted, expensed added!

I download them by choosing the online update button under the toolbar.

"Chris Cowles" wrote:

- quote -

> Are you referring to transactions downloaded from the bank? If so, by what
> means do you download them?
> --
> Chris Cowles
> Gainesville, FL
> "ilink4gray" <ilink4gray[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B221E22D-2FE1-44FC-83F5-24D96BC8D5F9[at]microsoft.com...
> > I'm using Money2005. Hadn't used it in a while due to log on errors with
> > my
> > bank. That's now resolved. However, the math seems to have reversed. My
> > deposits are subtracted from the balances and the expenses are added to
> > the
> > balance. If I reverse the sign for a deposit, Money changes it to an
> > expense
> > and then adds it to the balance. The same in reverse if I do this with
> > an
> > expense. I tried the quick and standard file repairs with no effect.
> > Any
> > ideas????


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Old 11-25-2006, 10:59 PM
ilink4gray
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Default Re: Deposits are subtracted, expensed added!



"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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> In microsoft.public.money, ilink4gray wrote:
> > I'm using Money2005. Hadn't used it in a while due to log on errors with my
> > bank. That's now resolved. However, the math seems to have reversed. My
> > deposits are subtracted from the balances and the expenses are added to the
> > balance. If I reverse the sign for a deposit, Money changes it to an expense
> > and then adds it to the balance. The same in reverse if I do this with an
> > expense. I tried the quick and standard file repairs with no effect. Any
> > ideas????

> Check that the account is set up as a bank account.
> Make sure that Money is displaying the balance column in black,
> rather than red, numbers.

The account is set up as a bank account as far as I can tell. I believe
Money recognizes it as a bank account because when I go to the Account list,
the account is listed under the "Bank Accounts" group.

Money is displaying my balances in RED because they are negative. They are
negative because my deposits are being subtracted. In other words, when a
deposit (which is in black numbers) shows up on an entry the next balance
line shows an increase in the negative (red) number under the balance column.
When an expense is recorded, it reduces the negative (red) balance
correspondingly.

I hope this is clear.
  #1  
Old 11-25-2006, 10:40 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: Deposits are subtracted, expensed added!

In microsoft.public.money, ilink4gray wrote:

- quote -

> I'm using Money2005. Hadn't used it in a while due to log on errors with my
> bank. That's now resolved. However, the math seems to have reversed. My
> deposits are subtracted from the balances and the expenses are added to the
> balance. If I reverse the sign for a deposit, Money changes it to an expense
> and then adds it to the balance. The same in reverse if I do this with an
> expense. I tried the quick and standard file repairs with no effect. Any
> ideas????


Check that the account is set up as a bank account.

Make sure that Money is displaying the balance column in black,
rather than red, numbers.
 
Old 11-25-2006, 10:39 PM
Chris Cowles
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Default Re: Deposits are subtracted, expensed added!

Are you referring to transactions downloaded from the bank? If so, by what
means do you download them?
--
Chris Cowles
Gainesville, FL



"ilink4gray" <ilink4gray[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B221E22D-2FE1-44FC-83F5-24D96BC8D5F9[at]microsoft.com...
- quote -

> I'm using Money2005. Hadn't used it in a while due to log on errors with
> my
> bank. That's now resolved. However, the math seems to have reversed. My
> deposits are subtracted from the balances and the expenses are added to
> the
> balance. If I reverse the sign for a deposit, Money changes it to an
> expense
> and then adds it to the balance. The same in reverse if I do this with
> an
> expense. I tried the quick and standard file repairs with no effect.
> Any
> ideas????



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Old 11-25-2006, 10:30 PM
ilink4gray
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Default Deposits are subtracted, expensed added!

I'm using Money2005. Hadn't used it in a while due to log on errors with my
bank. That's now resolved. However, the math seems to have reversed. My
deposits are subtracted from the balances and the expenses are added to the
balance. If I reverse the sign for a deposit, Money changes it to an expense
and then adds it to the balance. The same in reverse if I do this with an
expense. I tried the quick and standard file repairs with no effect. Any
ideas????
 

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