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| I adjust my 'house - market adjustment' account to reflect the difference between market value and book value. There are several public sources to estimate market value. I include or exclude the market adjustment account in my net worth report, depending on which information I want to see. -- Chris Cowles Gainesville, FL "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in message news:OB961qeDHHA.4808[at]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... - quote - > > > 1. Should the value increase by the total cost of window replacement or > > the market value of the improvement (market value percentages of common > > improvements can be found on the Internet)? > Market value is probably better if you want acurate Net Worth reporting. |
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| You raise a very good question: should the Asset account reflect Basis (great for tax purposes) or Value (great for Net Worth purposes). One scenario, alternate to yours, is to track additions to basis and changes in value both in the Asset account and, later, depend on the remarks and categorization to separate one from the other via reporting or hand work in an Excel sheet or similar. "Chris Cowles" <spam_magnet[at]remove-me-bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:ezEPIYeDHHA.2356[at]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... - quote - > Assuming your original home valuation was based on what you paid, and you > have not recorded other transactions related to market value adjustments, > the current asset value is the basis. Adding improvements adjusts that > basis upward by the amount of the investment. If you're talking something > you're going to report to the IRS, some things are qualified to add to the > basis, and other things must be expensed. If you think that's relevant, > contact an accountant. .... > If you want to record market appreciation, you can do it with a direct > adjustment into the account, or by creating a separate account called > something like 'House - market appreciation'. Increases should be > categorized as income. |
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| Thanks to both of you, Chris and Dick, for your responses. Both of you have given me a lot of good ideas to handle the situation. I want to be as accurate as I can but not make it too time-consuming. I wish I would have taken more classes in accounting! Thanks again. -- Brad |
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| Comments below. "Brad" <Brad[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9F95A38E-134D-4B06-ACCF-CA3957B97AF2[at]microsoft.com... - quote - > I'm going to replace the windows in my home which I own, and not all at
Market value is probably better if you want acurate Net Worth reporting.> once. > I have an asset account set up for the house that is tied to a mortgage > account. How do I keep track of the appreciation of the house due to > improvements? > 1. Should the value increase by the total cost of window replacement or > the > market value of the improvement (market value percentages of common > improvements can be found on the Internet)? - quote - > 2. Is the cost of installation also included in the appreciation amount?
Sure. But see above.> I > know the answer is probably 'no', but how do I account for the > installation > cost in the transaction? - quote - > 3. How would I make the transaction? When I make the payment to the
Yup. You may want, say, a split to Housing : Maintenance and Transfer :> installers, do I make the category a transfer to the asset (house) account > and then make adjustments to decrease for market value and/or installation > cost? [houuse as asset] to reflect the issue noted above. - quote - > On another note, I want to keep track of appreciation/depreciation on my
Either would work. There isn't a One Right Answer. You also might want to> house and vehicle. What is the best way to do that? Should I make it two > categories, "Appreciation" and "Depreciation", or should I make one > category, > "Account Adjustment", and keep negative and positive entries together? use something like Investment Income : Property Appreciation (for the house) and Automobile : Depreciation (for the automobile). I choose both of these to put the gains (house, hopefully) and losses (automobile almost certainly unless you are driving, say, a 1956 Mercedes 300 SL Gullwing) into some more meaningful grouping. The Automobile : Depreciation, for instance, surely reflects the reason for the expense in the category with other like expenses. |
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| Assuming your original home valuation was based on what you paid, and you have not recorded other transactions related to market value adjustments, the current asset value is the basis. Adding improvements adjusts that basis upward by the amount of the investment. If you're talking something you're going to report to the IRS, some things are qualified to add to the basis, and other things must be expensed. If you think that's relevant, contact an accountant. Record your cash/check/credit card expenditures as transfers to the asset account. Split them if not all of the transaction applies to the house. When you bought your house, did you separate the cost of materials from the cost of construction labor? No. Cost of installation is part of the cost of the improvement, unless doing it yourself. In that case, only related cash expenditures are, like tool rental. If you want to record market appreciation, you can do it with a direct adjustment into the account, or by creating a separate account called something like 'House - market appreciation'. Increases should be categorized as income. I use the second approach because it keeps my accounts cleaner. It also allows selective inclusion or exclusion in reports. You can do that for Net Worth, for example, to show book value vs. market value. It's all funny money until you close on a sale, anyway. Do what works for you. Take care to consider how easy it will be to use the information sometime in the distant future, should you need to. -- Chris Cowles Gainesville, FL "Brad" <Brad[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9F95A38E-134D-4B06-ACCF-CA3957B97AF2[at]microsoft.com... - quote - > I'm going to replace the windows in my home which I own, and not all at > once. > I have an asset account set up for the house that is tied to a mortgage > account. How do I keep track of the appreciation of the house due to > improvements? > 1. Should the value increase by the total cost of window replacement or > the > market value of the improvement (market value percentages of common > improvements can be found on the Internet)? > 2. Is the cost of installation also included in the appreciation amount? > I > know the answer is probably 'no', but how do I account for the > installation > cost in the transaction? > 3. How would I make the transaction? When I make the payment to the > installers, do I make the category a transfer to the asset (house) > account > and then make adjustments to decrease for market value and/or > installation > cost? > On another note, I want to keep track of appreciation/depreciation on my > house and vehicle. What is the best way to do that? Should I make it > two > categories, "Appreciation" and "Depreciation", or should I make one > category, > "Account Adjustment", and keep negative and positive entries together? > -- > Brad |
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| I'm going to replace the windows in my home which I own, and not all at once. I have an asset account set up for the house that is tied to a mortgage account. How do I keep track of the appreciation of the house due to improvements? 1. Should the value increase by the total cost of window replacement or the market value of the improvement (market value percentages of common improvements can be found on the Internet)? 2. Is the cost of installation also included in the appreciation amount? I know the answer is probably 'no', but how do I account for the installation cost in the transaction? 3. How would I make the transaction? When I make the payment to the installers, do I make the category a transfer to the asset (house) account and then make adjustments to decrease for market value and/or installation cost? On another note, I want to keep track of appreciation/depreciation on my house and vehicle. What is the best way to do that? Should I make it two categories, "Appreciation" and "Depreciation", or should I make one category, "Account Adjustment", and keep negative and positive entries together? -- Brad |
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