SteveC,
Agreed. Although, on occasion, I HAVE had Online Updates eventually time
out.
But that's a bug of a different nature.
-Kevin

"SteveC" <sconklan.nospam[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message
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No version of Money seems to be able to cancel Online Updates when it hangs
because one of your online providers doesn't answer (this applies to quotes
updates as well). You hit cancel and it just continues to spin. I
invariably have to CTR-ALT-DEL and end the program.

"Kevin" <nospam[at]nospam.com> wrote in message
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SP 1 did not fix the back up bug.

If you have chosen to be prompted to Back Up
before Money closes then choose File > Close
The "Back Up When Money Closes" window
opens.

You're given the button options of "Settings...",
"Back Up Now" and "Postpone".

Each being self explanatory.

However, if you change your mind about
closing Money, clicking the red "X" in the
upper right hand corner of the window,
closes Money as if you chose the "Postpone"
button instead of just closing the window and
letting you return to using Money.

I know that this bug has been present for a few
versions now. I wish MS would address it.

-Kevin

No version of Money seems to be able to cancel Online Updates when it hangs because one of your online providers doesn't answer (this applies to quotes updates as well). You hit cancel and it just continues to spin. I invariably have to CTR-ALT-DEL and end the program.

"Kevin" <nospam[at]nospam.com> wrote in message news:u6JAVHnBHHA.4892[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
SP 1 did not fix the back up bug.

If you have chosen to be prompted to Back Up
before Money closes then choose File > Close
The "Back Up When Money Closes" window
opens.

You're given the button options of "Settings...",
"Back Up Now" and "Postpone".

Each being self explanatory.

However, if you change your mind about
closing Money, clicking the red "X" in the
upper right hand corner of the window,
closes Money as if you chose the "Postpone"
button instead of just closing the window and
letting you return to using Money.

I know that this bug has been present for a few
versions now. I wish MS would address it.

-Kevin

Tough to say; depends on what the miss distance was. In the worst case, the
Money data would be the least of any of our problems. There are also,
reportedly, ways to create significant EMP events without the most serious
side effects.

"Chris Cowles" <spam_magnet[at]remove-me-bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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But would you, with all the metal stuff flying around?

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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I'm only realistic as Money is concerned. It just seems cynical.

My backups to floppy take 9 floppies (was 12 before Nuke The Bills). It's a
pain, but it's just one more form of the many I create manually and
automagically. Even an epic EMP event would leave me only going back
approximately 6 months, provided the DVD(s) in my safe deposit box survived.

"Kevin" <nospam[at]nospam.com> wrote in message
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DW,
Sooo you were being cynical :-)

I've never used the "Scheduled" backup in Money. I'll
have it "Automatically" back up the 7 most recent copies.

Once a week, I'll run MS Backup on the .mny file.

Do your .mbf files actually fit on a floppy? Mine usually
run about 2.5 MBs.

<The designer had to pick some behavior for the close event.<Why would you assume that he'd pick cancel?
Because cancel is what the "X" used to do. And it was better!

Invariably as soon as you hit File > Close, you remember the one
thing you forgot to check or do. It was a nice feature to be able to
back out of the shut down routine.

The question is: Why did he "change" the event? The dumbing
down thing is disgraceful.

Let's face it, Money is a program that's primarily, if not exclusively
used at home. The whole malicious tampering threat just doesn't
cut it.

Thanks again for your replies.

-Kevin



"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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Not completely.

There are MANY issues with Backup. Your's is maybe a valid point.

(Though I'll bet it's not considered a bug as Steve notes. The designer had
to pick some behavior for the close event. Why would you assume that he'd
pick cancel? I think once you've clicked close in Money, that's what it
should do. I guess I agree the close button on the dialog box is silly and
superfluous. And I agree with the poster who suggested the backup now choice
should have a timeout. I didn't close it for the fun of it and I don't want
it hanging around forever. I've had this happen many times.

Generally this happens to me because I miss my "scheduled" seventh day
backup to floppies and, not wanting to get Money off schedule, back it up by
hand to floppies on the eight or ninth day. This doesn't satisfy its urge
for the scheduled backup and it will nag for the rest of the week. If I
forget it's gonna nag, I'll Close and wander upstairs while it's doing the
on-exit compressed backup--too boring to watch. When I come back the next
morning, here's the nag sitting on the screen and I then don't trust my
11:55pm scheduled task scripted copy of the original file--made in part
because .MBFs are not always equal to .MNYs and pre-dating the ability of
Money's backup to keep multiple copies--to yet another safe store on the net
since it was made while Money was still, ahem, running.)

But there are many other issues with Backup.

Personally, I'm at a loss why I have to hand delete the old file on floppies
(nine times) to overwrite it with a new one.

I'm also at a loss why all backups like the scheduled backup don't get
treated as satisfying the scheduled backup.

Both of these were also behaviors it **used** to have.

I'm also at a loss about the apparent correlation between "Money is already
running" and something to do with how backup-on-exit terminates.

The real issue is that the whole thing is being designed for the lowest
common denominator user by people who, apparently, never actually use the
thing themselves and don't test it at all that much depth either. At some
point, you just dumb it down too much for it to still be usable to anybody
with even the slightest hint of a clue. That's the real issue that should
get fixed. Everything else is just a detail. That was my point.

"Kevin" <nospam[at]nospam.com> wrote in message
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Were you being facetious?

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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I think you missed my point.

"Kevin" <nospam[at]nospam.com> wrote in message
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Dick,
I shouldn't have to pick on this one aspect of it at all since
it used to work as it should in earlier versions.
They intentionally broke it <by design> to protect the stupid.
That's not petty.
-Kevin

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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Backup has so many "features" that could be "improved" that picking on just
one seems, well, petty.

"Kevin" <nospam[at]nospam.com> wrote in message
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I agree but that is what I was told I have asked several times for it to be
fixed and was just told it was By Design
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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In microsoft.public.money, Steve wrote:

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By that logic, if you told the computer to shut down and you walked
away, Money would shut down.



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"Steve" <steven_morrison69[at]hotmail.com> wrote:

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Too hard to rescript it? They rescripted it with Money 2006.
Money 2005 and earlier didn't do this. Just get the old "script."
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Steve,

Sorry! Our posts crossed.

JB

JB wrote:
Steve,

Hitting escape on my keyboard produces the same result as Postpone
(Money 2007 closes). Which version are you running again?


Regards,
JB

On Nov 12, 1:19 pm, "Steve" <steven_morriso...[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
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On Nov 12, 1:14 pm, "Steve" <steven_morriso...[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
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Steve,

Hitting escape on my keyboard produces the same result as Postpone
(Money 2007 closes). Which version are you running again?

Regards,
JB

Never mind my post listed below this works on every US verison up to 2004
and works on money 2005 UK
Steve
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By clicking escape on your keyboard you are able to cancel this dialog
without it closing money
Steve
"Steve" <steven_morrison69[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
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If this was the only reason why even if they made it if the dialog is left
opened for more then 15 seconds it closes the program itself would work
Steve
"Ed Hansberry, MS-MVP/Mobile Devices"
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"Steve" <steven_morrison69[at]hotmail.com> wrote:

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That is a pretty ridiculous reason if that was it. It isn't like
the box takes 30 seconds to show up.

It annoys me the "X" doesn't cancel the close operation.
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