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Old 08-08-2003, 06:42 PM
Dick Watson
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Yes, in versions newer than M98 or in M98 with the patch for diskettes
spanning backup. You don't mention the version you are asking about.

"Donald Schlack" <schlack[at]us.ibm.com> wrote in message
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> Should Money ask for another floppy? I get some message that states that
the
> floppy doesn't have enough available space...


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Old 08-08-2003, 06:09 PM
Donald Schlack
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Should Money ask for another floppy? I get some message that states that the
floppy doesn't have enough available space...

John wrote:

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> Backing up to a CD drive shouldn't be such a big deal in Money, Quicken
> users have been doing this for a few years now....
> "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:%23uwGKCORDHA.3700[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Money doesn't print the check register well; perhaps you want to go use
> the
> > account transactions reporting capability???
> > > Money doesn't use the common dialogs for printing that many (but not all)
> > other applications use.
> > > A CD-ROM is not a floppy. Money can't make it one. (Can Notepad on your
> > system burn a file to CD? I didn't think so.) Unless you use packet
> writing
> > software (like DirectCD--in which case backup to the CD-ROM "hard disk")
> > your choice is to backup to hard disk and then burn the file onto a CD
> using
> > whatever tools you use to burn other files onto CD. If you do use packet
> > writing software like DirectCD, I suggest you have some alternative form
> of
> > backup. There is a FAQ on this that has been quoted within the last week.
> > Check the postings.
> > > "Michael Wollscheidt" <sevencardstuds[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:04ef01c344ca$10a7a290$a301280a[at]phx.gbl...
> > > Everything was going along just fine as I was setting up
> > > my new edition of Money 2003 Deluxe, until I tried to do
> > > two things. . .First I tried to print the single page of
> > > my check register, but it never printed properly, one
> > > check wasn't even listed. I made sure it was set up with
> > > the proper printer, but it just didn't print properly.
> > > When I print, I don't get the Epson dialog box, in which I
> > > always make all my printing settings, instead I only get
> > > the smaller Money printer box, which doesn't give me the
> > > control over the various printing settings that I usually
> > > have. Is this normal? And the other problem is that when
> > > I try to back up to a CD-ROM instead of a floppy, my CD-
> > > ROM drive isn't listed in the drop-down box, and there
> > > seems to be no way to designate it! Can I somehow set
> > > this drive as the back-up or will I have to use multiple
> > > floppies to back up my info? Anybody with any experience
> > > or ideas regarding these two problems?
>
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Old 07-09-2003, 04:52 PM
Frank
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Dick Watson wrote:
| Boy, you really have me confused.
|
| Why is it the problem of my firewall if virtually everything else I
| do from here to the net works fine through the firewall and the
| protocol design for Money quotes download breaks unless I disable
| the firewall? Please bear with me and explain your thinking here.
|
| "Frank" <bbunny[at]bqik.net> wrote in message
| news:u7z%23gacRDHA.2020[at]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
|| Dick Watson wrote:


I am busy with other things(raid array) right now,
but I am sure that if you and others keep hammering
at this, a solution can be worked out for you.
I still think it is in your firewall, but I could be
wrong. Some of these can be quite cryptic.
Good Luck


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Old 07-09-2003, 04:40 AM
Dick Watson
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Boy, you really have me confused.

Why is it the problem of my firewall if virtually everything else I do from
here to the net works fine through the firewall and the protocol design for
Money quotes download breaks unless I disable the firewall? Please bear with
me and explain your thinking here.

"Frank" <bbunny[at]bqik.net> wrote in message
news:u7z%23gacRDHA.2020[at]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
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> Dick Watson wrote:
> | I'm running a well respected hardware firewall router which I will
> | not further identify, not some software kludge. Is it a PIX? No. Is
> | it ZoneAlarm freeware? No.
> |
> | I'm not for one moment suggesting the Microsoft should write Money
> | to suit "the various FUDwarez." Just the opposite. They should
> | write it so that it functions behind the most restrictive firewall
> | imaginable that passes DNS, HTTP, and HTTPS for standard ports on
> | LAN-opened connections only.
> |
> | As noted, I think Money should use a quotes download protocol
> | design that functions from inside my firewall with no ports open
> | for inbound connection from WAN to LAN--i.e., stealth to the net.
> | Today Money cannot do this it seems. To me, this makes Money
> | firewall un-friendly.
> |
> | So, I still don't get your point. Perhaps I'm too dense?
> In order for someone to get into the building, someone must
> open the door, or break it down......Your problem is the coding/
> programing of your firewall, not MSMoney....


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Old 07-09-2003, 03:03 AM
Frank
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Dick Watson wrote:
| I'm running a well respected hardware firewall router which I will
| not further identify, not some software kludge. Is it a PIX? No. Is
| it ZoneAlarm freeware? No.
|
| I'm not for one moment suggesting the Microsoft should write Money
| to suit "the various FUDwarez." Just the opposite. They should
| write it so that it functions behind the most restrictive firewall
| imaginable that passes DNS, HTTP, and HTTPS for standard ports on
| LAN-opened connections only.
|
| As noted, I think Money should use a quotes download protocol
| design that functions from inside my firewall with no ports open
| for inbound connection from WAN to LAN--i.e., stealth to the net.
| Today Money cannot do this it seems. To me, this makes Money
| firewall un-friendly.
|
| So, I still don't get your point. Perhaps I'm too dense?


In order for someone to get into the building, someone must
open the door, or break it down......Your problem is the coding/
programing of your firewall, not MSMoney....



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Old 07-08-2003, 11:06 PM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: Backing up to a CD-ROM, and Printing the Check Register

I'm running a well respected hardware firewall router which I will not
further identify, not some software kludge. Is it a PIX? No. Is it ZoneAlarm
freeware? No.

I'm not for one moment suggesting the Microsoft should write Money to suit
"the various FUDwarez." Just the opposite. They should write it so that it
functions behind the most restrictive firewall imaginable that passes DNS,
HTTP, and HTTPS for standard ports on LAN-opened connections only.

As noted, I think Money should use a quotes download protocol design that
functions from inside my firewall with no ports open for inbound connection
from WAN to LAN--i.e., stealth to the net. Today Money cannot do this it
seems. To me, this makes Money firewall un-friendly.

So, I still don't get your point. Perhaps I'm too dense?

"Frank" <bbunny[at]bqik.net> wrote in message
news:envLVEaRDHA.3192[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
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> Personal firewalls ar not firewalls, the same as win modems are
> not modems per se. I don't feel that it is Microsoft or anybody
> else should be responsible for writing programs to suit the
> various FUDwarez.


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Old 07-08-2003, 10:34 PM
Frank
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Dick Watson wrote:
| Which part of the above wasn't true?
|
| I'm not sure I understand your comment about Money being firewall
| friendly. My view of the requirement is that Money should be able
| to function from inside my firewall with no ports open for inbound
| connection from WAN to LAN. Today Money cannot do this it seems.
| I'm not suggesting that Money should subvert the firewall. I am
| suggesting that it shouldn't insist that I do so just to download a
| stupid stock quote.
|
| "Frank" <bbunny[at]bqik.net> wrote in message
| news:uuYFITWRDHA.560[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
|| The above is not true....
||
|| I also don't want any program that is _firewall friendly_, when
|| it does become firewall friendly it is time to move on to another
|| appliance.

The above........Quicken users have been doing this for years........
Personal firewalls ar not firewalls, the same as win modems are
not modems per se. I don't feel that it is Microsoft or anybody
else should be responsible for writing programs to suit the
various FUDwarez.


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Old 07-08-2003, 03:22 PM
Frank
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Dick Watson wrote:
| Good for them. If this is your prime requirement, by all means go
| for it: http://www.buy.com/retail/product.as...348630&loc=105
|
| Microsoft, as is usually their approach, would rather wait until
| this is a system service (it's called Mt. Rainier and should be in
| the next version of the OS) available to all applications than crud
| up every application with its own version of CD Burner code.
| Frankly, given that the Money designers can't even come up with a
| way to download a stock quote that is firewall friendly, I'd just
| as soon see them avoid systems programming as complicated as adding
| a CD burning engine. Let's try to keep them "on task" (as
| kindergarten teachers are want to say) working on personal finance
| management rather than beg them to do what other tools already do
| better quite easily.

| "John" <John90125[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:3c0fea46c7fe71328318de4b5502e8fe[at]free.teranews.com...
|| Backing up to a CD drive shouldn't be such a big deal in Money,
|| Quicken users have been doing this for a few years now....

The above is not true....

I also don't want any program that is _firewall friendly_, when
it does become firewall friendly it is time to move on to another
appliance.



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Old 07-08-2003, 12:24 PM
Dick Watson
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Good for them. If this is your prime requirement, by all means go for it:
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.as...348630&loc=105

Microsoft, as is usually their approach, would rather wait until this is a
system service (it's called Mt. Rainier and should be in the next version of
the OS) available to all applications than crud up every application with
its own version of CD Burner code. Frankly, given that the Money designers
can't even come up with a way to download a stock quote that is firewall
friendly, I'd just as soon see them avoid systems programming as complicated
as adding a CD burning engine. Let's try to keep them "on task" (as
kindergarten teachers are want to say) working on personal finance
management rather than beg them to do what other tools already do better
quite easily.

BTW, I don't think backing up to a CD drive is a big deal in Money. It's a
non deal. If a user is so into burning CDs, they likely have much better
tools than anything that could get grafted onto Money. How hard is it to go
to the folder with your Money data file, r-click on it, and select Send to
CD-RW drive??? (At least for us XP users.) Oh, and if you use packet
writing software (the current versions of which I do not recommend as a
reliable backup scheme), Money will back up to them quite easily. Just not
as a floppy, but as a hard disk.

"John" <John90125[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Backing up to a CD drive shouldn't be such a big deal in Money, Quicken
> users have been doing this for a few years now....


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Old 07-08-2003, 05:22 AM
John
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Backing up to a CD drive shouldn't be such a big deal in Money, Quicken
users have been doing this for a few years now....


"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:%23uwGKCORDHA.3700[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> Money doesn't print the check register well; perhaps you want to go use
the
> account transactions reporting capability???
> Money doesn't use the common dialogs for printing that many (but not all)
> other applications use.
> A CD-ROM is not a floppy. Money can't make it one. (Can Notepad on your
> system burn a file to CD? I didn't think so.) Unless you use packet
writing
> software (like DirectCD--in which case backup to the CD-ROM "hard disk")
> your choice is to backup to hard disk and then burn the file onto a CD
using
> whatever tools you use to burn other files onto CD. If you do use packet
> writing software like DirectCD, I suggest you have some alternative form
of
> backup. There is a FAQ on this that has been quoted within the last week.
> Check the postings.
> "Michael Wollscheidt" <sevencardstuds[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:04ef01c344ca$10a7a290$a301280a[at]phx.gbl...
> > Everything was going along just fine as I was setting up
> > my new edition of Money 2003 Deluxe, until I tried to do
> > two things. . .First I tried to print the single page of
> > my check register, but it never printed properly, one
> > check wasn't even listed. I made sure it was set up with
> > the proper printer, but it just didn't print properly.
> > When I print, I don't get the Epson dialog box, in which I
> > always make all my printing settings, instead I only get
> > the smaller Money printer box, which doesn't give me the
> > control over the various printing settings that I usually
> > have. Is this normal? And the other problem is that when
> > I try to back up to a CD-ROM instead of a floppy, my CD-
> > ROM drive isn't listed in the drop-down box, and there
> > seems to be no way to designate it! Can I somehow set
> > this drive as the back-up or will I have to use multiple
> > floppies to back up my info? Anybody with any experience
> > or ideas regarding these two problems?


 
Old 07-07-2003, 11:36 PM
Dick Watson
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Money doesn't print the check register well; perhaps you want to go use the
account transactions reporting capability???

Money doesn't use the common dialogs for printing that many (but not all)
other applications use.

A CD-ROM is not a floppy. Money can't make it one. (Can Notepad on your
system burn a file to CD? I didn't think so.) Unless you use packet writing
software (like DirectCD--in which case backup to the CD-ROM "hard disk")
your choice is to backup to hard disk and then burn the file onto a CD using
whatever tools you use to burn other files onto CD. If you do use packet
writing software like DirectCD, I suggest you have some alternative form of
backup. There is a FAQ on this that has been quoted within the last week.
Check the postings.

"Michael Wollscheidt" <sevencardstuds[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:04ef01c344ca$10a7a290$a301280a[at]phx.gbl...
- quote -

> Everything was going along just fine as I was setting up
> my new edition of Money 2003 Deluxe, until I tried to do
> two things. . .First I tried to print the single page of
> my check register, but it never printed properly, one
> check wasn't even listed. I made sure it was set up with
> the proper printer, but it just didn't print properly.
> When I print, I don't get the Epson dialog box, in which I
> always make all my printing settings, instead I only get
> the smaller Money printer box, which doesn't give me the
> control over the various printing settings that I usually
> have. Is this normal? And the other problem is that when
> I try to back up to a CD-ROM instead of a floppy, my CD-
> ROM drive isn't listed in the drop-down box, and there
> seems to be no way to designate it! Can I somehow set
> this drive as the back-up or will I have to use multiple
> floppies to back up my info? Anybody with any experience
> or ideas regarding these two problems?


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Old 07-07-2003, 08:55 PM
Michael Wollscheidt
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Default Backing up to a CD-ROM, and Printing the Check Register

Everything was going along just fine as I was setting up
my new edition of Money 2003 Deluxe, until I tried to do
two things. . .First I tried to print the single page of
my check register, but it never printed properly, one
check wasn't even listed. I made sure it was set up with
the proper printer, but it just didn't print properly.
When I print, I don't get the Epson dialog box, in which I
always make all my printing settings, instead I only get
the smaller Money printer box, which doesn't give me the
control over the various printing settings that I usually
have. Is this normal? And the other problem is that when
I try to back up to a CD-ROM instead of a floppy, my CD-
ROM drive isn't listed in the drop-down box, and there
seems to be no way to designate it! Can I somehow set
this drive as the back-up or will I have to use multiple
floppies to back up my info? Anybody with any experience
or ideas regarding these two problems? Any advice would
be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 

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