To add new lines for additional lines off the form? No. At least not on the
US Tax Estimator.

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New threads for new topics is always a good idea.

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Thank you.

I have a couple of postings already online, which I had put on hold, whilst
dealing with this setup. If I have further queries, I was going to continue
on my previous postings even if they are a 'not very recent' unless you
suggest a new posting is more preferable as they are lower down in the list
of postings in this newsgroup.

If so, then please let me know.

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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I would change that to PAY back with what you learn, as you encounter new
questions from others. Forums like this always need knowledgeable people to
answer questions.
--
Chris Cowles
Gainesville, FL



"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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In the tax estimator, it is possible to rename / add "Form Line" under the
"Tax Form" heading?

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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The only difference between Split and Paycheck/Payslip is the added ability
to have the layer of metadata about before/after tax expenses in the
Paycheck/Payslip. Other than that, Paycheck/Payslip is just a Split by
another name.

Beyond that, Split would change nothing in your case except: 1) these sign
of all you individual transaction elements would be relative to the overall
transaction. It it's a deposit, a negative sign in a split element is
flowing away. If a withdrawal, a negative sign in a split element is flowing
in. (Contrast with the behavior that varies on wages vs. deductions tabs in
the Payslip.) 2) You'd break tax estimator with regard to before tax
deductions.

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Thanks for the feedback and glad we could help. Post back as you learn and
encounter new questions.

"Apr" <noreply[at]mail.com> wrote in message
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Could I use the Payslip model you suggest via the Split button?


"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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Just a thought, what if I use the Split button for the Net Pay received into
the Chq Account.

How straight forward is it and would this make sense, and, be easier / easy?

Thank you.

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Ok thanks very much for your help. You've been extremely helpful and
patient and I appreciate your help.

I've wanted to learn how Money works for a while now and it's starting to
make lots more sense.

I'll continue with my next task in Money and look forward to my results.
))

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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ha ha
)
Ok, throw it out.

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....

"Apr" <noreply[at]mail.com> wrote in message
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cool.

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That would work and sounds like the right general idea, but beware: If you
didn't enter Job : Reimbursed Company Admin fees but just entered Job, then
it will move Wages & Salary : Reimbursed Company Admin fees to Jobs and the
Reimbursed Company Admin fees will be lost.

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Yup. The value of "net pay" from your payslip is exactly the net of
everything on the Payslip transaction in Money.

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There won't be a standard one that does that. But, in Advanced Reports, the
Transactions By Category report can be customized to include just the
categories you use on your Payslip transactions and then set to order by
date. For each date, you will get the total of the Payslip category
entries--that should equate to Net Pay.

Use the CD for a coaster?

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What do you suggest I do regarding this?

"Bob Peel, MVP" <bob_peel[at]kiandra.freeserve.co.uk.INVALID> wrote in message
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my reply inline....thank you. Also, I'm merging you comments in the
parallel convesation with this one. ) and the end if this.

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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The above is all fine. I understand that.

Just refering to Reimbursed Company Admin fees now, in the following
context: the figure is positive on the Payslip (going out the system) and
then I goto 'Categories' > Income > double click on Wages & Salary:
Reimbursed Company Admin fees, the entries are red and negative. This is
the part I wanted to check with you. Should I move this to Expenses?

This is what I did: Pse confirm this Category Group (below) makes sense and
sounds ok in general. I think this is right.

I selected Enter new category > Type "Job" > selected Expense > selected
'Other expenses' category.

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Got it. It makes sense to me. Thanks.

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Ok, I understand it's difficult to do bother Net Pay only in parallel with
the new payslip model.

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But this number is a number in the Cheque Account register though? It does
make sense what you are saying total is a number as it's all been
categorised on the tabs.

Regarding the Reports: as noted I have checked the 'Monthly Income and
Expenses' report. Ok, this is good. I can all my different Payslip
categories and it makes good sense now. Finally to me!. One final thing,
in order for me to "see/check" the actual 'Total Net Pay', I have to maually
take the Income:Total Wages & Salary figure and minus it from the Expenses
relating to the Payslip, from the Report. The Report I chose was called
"Monthly Income and Expnses". Which report calculates the figure for me to
show me the Total Net Pay... or is it as you have mentioned above, it's not
possible?

Thank you for all your assistance, again. )

There isn't one! ;-)

The last UK version of Money is M2005. There has been nothing since.

--
Regards
Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

For UK tips & fixes see
http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny.


I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.

"Apr" <noreply[at]mail.com> wrote in message
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Ok...do you know how I should get the latest version?


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Apr, don't bother installing Tax Saver 2004. It is very specifically for tax
year 2004.

--
Regards
Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

For UK tips & fixes see
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same

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As noted, if you show transactions by Payee and do not show the split
information, all you'll get is the bottom line, net deposited, total of each
of the payslips. It won't say Total Net Pay. If you really want, put that in
the Memo field. Then you can show transactions that have thext "Total Net
Pay". Beyond that, I'm running out of ways to get you there. If you just
want a word processing report that looks like your paychecks, perhaps Excel
or Word would be a better choice.

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Accounts in Money are things like Checking and Savings. Categories are not
Accounts and vice versa.

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Sorry. You can have one or the other. Both will be hard.

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So you are going to skip separately collecting the amounts for the elements
of Gross Payments? OK.

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Answers previous question.

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Running out of answers here...

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Yup. Otherwise it's sure been a lot of trouble for naught.

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I'm trying to say that everything on the tabs will be added together and
that amount is what the entire payslip transaction will add to the account
youu put it in. You can think of this as Net Pay. But you can't categorize
that total that way. It just doesn't compute. The total of a Payslip is just
a number--it's all already been categorized on the entries on the tabs.
Nothing left to categorize.

Here's another way to try to make sense of it: imagine you entered one
separate transaction for EACH line on each tab of your payslip in your
checking account. The balance of the account after all of those transactions
is the new corerct balance. But there would be no "Net Pay" transaction.

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I'm saying if you want to report a line that says "Total Net Pay" as a
Category, that will not make any sense if you categorize the components that
sum up to Total Net Pay.

I don't know what report you were using nor how you set it up but I do know
these things:

1) The total shown at the bottom of the Payslip dialog WILL BE THE SAME as
your Total Net Pay once you have all the data on all the tabs.
2) The amount of the Payslip transaction added to the balance of the account
you deposit it in WILL BE THE SAME as your Total Net Pay.
3) If you track the elements of your net pay correctly in Payslips and then
define a report to show the total of all of these elements for the date of
the payslip the total amount shown on that report WILL BE THE SAME as your
Total Net Pay.

That's three places to check it. The first two should be checked when you
enter the data then you can skip going to check the third. See my other post
from the same time for an alternate way to see/report "Total Net Pay".

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Yup. So many postings, so little proofreading. But you pass the "Catch The
Instructor's Mistake" Test.

below.

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These two sound like taxes. They sure aren't something like Wages & Salary.
Remeber that beyond the Income/Expense issue, the categories and their
subcategories are there for clarity and things like reporting. If you want
to ask Money what your wage income was (total of Wages and Salary category
and all its subcategories), you probably don't want that number artificially
reduced by taxes you paid. Likewise, if you want to know the taxes you paid,
you really want to see the taxes. Otherwise, why categorize at all?

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These don't sound like taxes. And I thought we agreed you were treating
money you receive for the second one was some form of Income.

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Negative in what context? A negative entry on a despoit is a withdrawal. A
negative entry on a Wages Tab of a Payslip is a withdrawal--money leaving
you and going somewhere. A negative entry on a Deductions tab of a Payslip
is a deposit--money coming your way.

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I'm getting really confused what's what and on what tab. See above.

Summary (why don't you check and see if you can test each entry on your
payslip against this):

* positive numbers on the Wages tab are money you are receiving--these
should be in categories that are Income categories

* positive numbers on deductions tabs (Before Tax, Taxes, After Tax) are
money you are spending--these should be in Expense categories

* negative numbers on deductions tabs are money you are receiving--these
should be in Income categories

Another attempt at summary:

All three elements must be tested to make sure they are consistent. 1) Which
tab? 2) What is sign of value? and 3) Is Category assigned to income or
expense?