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Old 11-09-2006, 12:49 PM
Steve
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Default Re: epay without MSN Bill Pay?

If you have 06 and its working do not disable it or you will loose it and
ahve to upgrade to 2007 you can enter payments into the register but I
suggest doing it on the Bills section and on the left hand side click Make a
one time payment or transfer
Steve
"Garry" <Eli1962[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm currently using Money 06, and it does require passport for MSN
> Billpay.
> With Money 07, can I enter epay transactions directly in the check
> register, or do I still have to go to the Billpay website, and wait for
> it to clear before it shows in the check register? If I have to do
> that, I might as well use the bank's website directly -- same
> functionality for free.
> One of the advantages of epay is that you can write checks to drop in
> the future, but that makes it all the more important to be able to see
> at a glance where the balance will be at any point over the next month
> or so.



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Old 11-07-2006, 03:24 PM
Garry
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Default Re: epay without MSN Bill Pay?

I'm currently using Money 06, and it does require passport for MSN
Billpay.

With Money 07, can I enter epay transactions directly in the check
register, or do I still have to go to the Billpay website, and wait for
it to clear before it shows in the check register? If I have to do
that, I might as well use the bank's website directly -- same
functionality for free.

One of the advantages of epay is that you can write checks to drop in
the future, but that makes it all the more important to be able to see
at a glance where the balance will be at any point over the next month
or so.

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Old 11-07-2006, 09:15 AM
Steve
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Money receives your payments in two ways when you enter these into MSN
Billpay it goes into the Billpay register then when the bank clears it it
goes in your regular account register Jus remember MSN Billpay is Checkfree
Checkfree bought MSN BillPay around november two years ago
"Garry" <Eli1962[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
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> That's interesting, because Checkfree told me several years ago they
> were no longer going to support Money -- otherwise I'd have kept on
> using them. Maybe they fired some customers but not others?
> I know that MSN Billpay now works through Checkfree, and I'm trying to
> figure out how it works with Money. If it'll do what I want, I'm happy
> to use it. But so far, it doesn't seem to. As far as I can tell,
> Money will take me to Billpay to make payments, but not let me enter
> those payments directly in the account register, and I don't yet
> understand when/how a payment made through Billpay would show up in the
> check register. Am I missing something?
> Ron Rosenfeld wrote:
> > On 5 Nov 2006 23:18:11 -0800, "Garry" <Eli1962[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Thanks for the response.
> > > > > I can download transactions either directly (using Money's update
> > > feature) or with OFX download from Citibank. But it downloads only
> > > cleared transactions, not pending ones.
> > > > > What I want to do is simple: enter a payment into the Money check
> > > register, and upload it so that it gets paid via epay. Fifteen years
> > > ago, I was able to do this in a world of DOS and dialup using Managing
> > > Your Money and Checkfree. After MYM faltered, I found I could do the
> > > same thing with Money and Checkfree. But then Money and Checkfree
> > > parted company, and I've never been able to do it since.
> > > > > I, too, used MYM and CheckFree. But I've been able to continue to use

> > Checkfree with various versions of Money (99, 01, 03 and now 07). The
> > option
> > is there; and it automagically kept it when I upgr^H^H^H^Hchanged from 03
> > to
> > 07.
> > > I think you do something like, from the account:
> > > Change Account Settings

> > Online Setup (down near the bottom of the screen)
> > Select the Bank
> > > Manage Online Services

> > This will list your bank but also have a category of Online Bill
> > Payment
> > Providers. Select that and mine shows Checkfree (existing users only)
> > and MSN
> > Bill Pay.
> > > You may need to contact CheckFree by phone if you haven't used them for a

> > while, but you should be able to get things set up. When they ask for
> > your
> > "number", try your SSN.
> > > > > --ron



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Old 11-07-2006, 09:14 AM
Steve
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What happened is in money 06 and earlier MSN bill pay was setup with the MS
passport i money 2007 MS changed this so you can connect directly to them
without the passport all you have to do is download 2007 and setup MSN Bill
pay or check free with the 25 or so digit subscriber ID you get from calling
them the password is the same as you use on the website.
In step form
Step1: Download or buy Money 2007
Step2: Call MSN BillPay(CheckFree) and ask for your subscriber ID
Step3: In money go File> New> New Account and chose Bill Payment providers
Step4: Choose MSN BillPay Or Check Free type in the user name and pass and
it will connect no problems
Just remember for MSN Billpay is must be the subscriber ID and the password
used on the website
Steve
"Garry" <Eli1962[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
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> That's interesting, because Checkfree told me several years ago they
> were no longer going to support Money -- otherwise I'd have kept on
> using them. Maybe they fired some customers but not others?
> I know that MSN Billpay now works through Checkfree, and I'm trying to
> figure out how it works with Money. If it'll do what I want, I'm happy
> to use it. But so far, it doesn't seem to. As far as I can tell,
> Money will take me to Billpay to make payments, but not let me enter
> those payments directly in the account register, and I don't yet
> understand when/how a payment made through Billpay would show up in the
> check register. Am I missing something?
> Ron Rosenfeld wrote:
> > On 5 Nov 2006 23:18:11 -0800, "Garry" <Eli1962[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Thanks for the response.
> > > > > I can download transactions either directly (using Money's update
> > > feature) or with OFX download from Citibank. But it downloads only
> > > cleared transactions, not pending ones.
> > > > > What I want to do is simple: enter a payment into the Money check
> > > register, and upload it so that it gets paid via epay. Fifteen years
> > > ago, I was able to do this in a world of DOS and dialup using Managing
> > > Your Money and Checkfree. After MYM faltered, I found I could do the
> > > same thing with Money and Checkfree. But then Money and Checkfree
> > > parted company, and I've never been able to do it since.
> > > > > I, too, used MYM and CheckFree. But I've been able to continue to use

> > Checkfree with various versions of Money (99, 01, 03 and now 07). The
> > option
> > is there; and it automagically kept it when I upgr^H^H^H^Hchanged from 03
> > to
> > 07.
> > > I think you do something like, from the account:
> > > Change Account Settings

> > Online Setup (down near the bottom of the screen)
> > Select the Bank
> > > Manage Online Services

> > This will list your bank but also have a category of Online Bill
> > Payment
> > Providers. Select that and mine shows Checkfree (existing users only)
> > and MSN
> > Bill Pay.
> > > You may need to contact CheckFree by phone if you haven't used them for a

> > while, but you should be able to get things set up. When they ask for
> > your
> > "number", try your SSN.
> > > > > --ron



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Old 11-07-2006, 04:52 AM
Chris Cowles
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Default Re: epay without MSN Bill Pay?

What version of Money?

"Garry" <Eli1962[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
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> That's interesting, because Checkfree told me several years ago they
> were no longer going to support Money -- otherwise I'd have kept on
> using them. Maybe they fired some customers but not others?
> I know that MSN Billpay now works through Checkfree, and I'm trying to
> figure out how it works with Money. If it'll do what I want, I'm happy
> to use it. But so far, it doesn't seem to.



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Old 11-07-2006, 04:00 AM
Garry
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Default Re: epay without MSN Bill Pay?

That's interesting, because Checkfree told me several years ago they
were no longer going to support Money -- otherwise I'd have kept on
using them. Maybe they fired some customers but not others?

I know that MSN Billpay now works through Checkfree, and I'm trying to
figure out how it works with Money. If it'll do what I want, I'm happy
to use it. But so far, it doesn't seem to. As far as I can tell,
Money will take me to Billpay to make payments, but not let me enter
those payments directly in the account register, and I don't yet
understand when/how a payment made through Billpay would show up in the
check register. Am I missing something?


Ron Rosenfeld wrote:
- quote -

> On 5 Nov 2006 23:18:11 -0800, "Garry" <Eli1962[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks for the response.
> > > I can download transactions either directly (using Money's update

> > feature) or with OFX download from Citibank. But it downloads only
> > cleared transactions, not pending ones.
> > > What I want to do is simple: enter a payment into the Money check

> > register, and upload it so that it gets paid via epay. Fifteen years
> > ago, I was able to do this in a world of DOS and dialup using Managing
> > Your Money and Checkfree. After MYM faltered, I found I could do the
> > same thing with Money and Checkfree. But then Money and Checkfree
> > parted company, and I've never been able to do it since.
> > I, too, used MYM and CheckFree. But I've been able to continue to use

> Checkfree with various versions of Money (99, 01, 03 and now 07). The option
> is there; and it automagically kept it when I upgr^H^H^H^Hchanged from 03 to
> 07.
> I think you do something like, from the account:
> Change Account Settings
> Online Setup (down near the bottom of the screen)
> Select the Bank
> Manage Online Services
> This will list your bank but also have a category of Online Bill Payment
> Providers. Select that and mine shows Checkfree (existing users only) and MSN
> Bill Pay.
> You may need to contact CheckFree by phone if you haven't used them for a
> while, but you should be able to get things set up. When they ask for your
> "number", try your SSN.
> --ron


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Old 11-07-2006, 01:01 AM
Ron Rosenfeld
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Default Re: epay without MSN Bill Pay?

On 5 Nov 2006 23:18:11 -0800, "Garry" <Eli1962[at]gmail.com> wrote:

- quote -

> Thanks for the response.
> I can download transactions either directly (using Money's update
> feature) or with OFX download from Citibank. But it downloads only
> cleared transactions, not pending ones.
> What I want to do is simple: enter a payment into the Money check
> register, and upload it so that it gets paid via epay. Fifteen years
> ago, I was able to do this in a world of DOS and dialup using Managing
> Your Money and Checkfree. After MYM faltered, I found I could do the
> same thing with Money and Checkfree. But then Money and Checkfree
> parted company, and I've never been able to do it since.


I, too, used MYM and CheckFree. But I've been able to continue to use
Checkfree with various versions of Money (99, 01, 03 and now 07). The option
is there; and it automagically kept it when I upgr^H^H^H^Hchanged from 03 to
07.

I think you do something like, from the account:

Change Account Settings
Online Setup (down near the bottom of the screen)
Select the Bank

Manage Online Services
This will list your bank but also have a category of Online Bill Payment
Providers. Select that and mine shows Checkfree (existing users only) and MSN
Bill Pay.

You may need to contact CheckFree by phone if you haven't used them for a
while, but you should be able to get things set up. When they ask for your
"number", try your SSN.



--ron
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Old 11-07-2006, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: epay without MSN Bill Pay?

M07 supports Checkfree ("MSN Billpay") from within Money. M06 supported it
for existing accounts, but not new accounts. That was corrected in M07.

Even if you enter bills directly in MSN Billpay in Money, you'll have
duplicate accounts of sorts, in Money, if you download data from CitiBank.
If your primary bank account were not online enabled, you could merge the
MSN Billpay account to your real bank account. It would then be a
consolidated account. But I don't think you can merge two different
online-enabled accounts. Hence the duplication.

If direct bill pay is that important to you, consider a different bank.
I've used Wachovia for years and am happy. I have very little direct
interaction with the bank. It's all direct deposit, direct debit, and
online billpay through Money. Customer support over the phone is everything
I've needed, and it's fine. They have a large ATM presence in the
southeast, and it's free at the balance levels I'm willing to maintain
there.

You probably have different criteria for selecting a bank.

I also have a NetBank MM account. They support direct billpay, but I cannot
speak well of their support or services. It works adequately for my needs,
which is simply letting my cash sit there.
--
Chris Cowles
Gainesville, FL

"Garry" <Eli1962[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the response.
> I can download transactions either directly (using Money's update
> feature) or with OFX download from Citibank. But it downloads only
> cleared transactions, not pending ones.
> What I want to do is simple: enter a payment into the Money check
> register, and upload it so that it gets paid via epay. Fifteen years
> ago, I was able to do this in a world of DOS and dialup using Managing
> Your Money and Checkfree. After MYM faltered, I found I could do the
> same thing with Money and Checkfree. But then Money and Checkfree
> parted company, and I've never been able to do it since.



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Old 11-06-2006, 12:46 PM
Steve
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Accually check free his compatible with Money 2007 and citibank uses the
third party updater which means Money cannot pay bills threw citibank
directly and thats why it wants to use MSN Billpay which is now Checkfree
Steve
"Garry" <Eli1962[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I've opened a new checking account with Citibank, and the on-line
> features there seem to be working fine, except I can't find a way to
> get pending payments to download until they've cleared at the bank.
> I'd like to be able to use epay directly from Money 2006 through
> Citibank, but I can't figure out how to get around Money's seeming
> insistence that I use MSN Bill Pay.
> Is there a way to do this?



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Old 11-06-2006, 11:26 AM
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Default Re: epay without MSN Bill Pay?

On 2006-11-06, Garry <Eli1962[at]gmail.com> wrote:
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> What I want to do is simple: enter a payment into the Money check
> register, and upload it so that it gets paid via epay. ...
> So I'd like something seamless where I only have enter stuff once in
> Money. Isn't there some way to do that?


Yes there is. But it depends on what services your bank offers.
My bank (Wachovia) offers bill pay through Money's Direct Services.
What you need to do is find a bank at the following link that offers
direct bill pay services.

http://www.microsoft.com/money/bankonline.aspx

When you click on the bank, it needs to say the following under
"additional services":

You can also use this bank's bill payment service from
within Microsoft Money

With my bank, the bill pay services are free. A nice benefit over
using MSN Bill Pay.

Good luck.
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Old 11-06-2006, 06:18 AM
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Thanks for the response.

I can download transactions either directly (using Money's update
feature) or with OFX download from Citibank. But it downloads only
cleared transactions, not pending ones.

What I want to do is simple: enter a payment into the Money check
register, and upload it so that it gets paid via epay. Fifteen years
ago, I was able to do this in a world of DOS and dialup using Managing
Your Money and Checkfree. After MYM faltered, I found I could do the
same thing with Money and Checkfree. But then Money and Checkfree
parted company, and I've never been able to do it since.

In recent years, I've used Paytrust, but I have to enter the
transactions on Paytrust's website. It lets me download pending
transactions, but it's sometimes erratic about which transactions it
downloads, and QIF downloads aren't always trouble-free.

So I'd like something seamless where I only have enter stuff once in
Money. Isn't there some way to do that?


Chris Cowles wrote:
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> Go here: http://www.microsoft.com/money/bankonline.aspx and look for
> Citibank. The link I found there refers to Citibank Online supporting
> 'Direct Services'. That means you can connect direct from Money to the
> bank's servers. That may be for download only. Contact the bank directly to
> ask if they support BillPay through Money.
> --
> Chris Cowles
> Gainesville, FL
> "Garry" <Eli1962[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1162779954.840328.203550[at]h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > I've opened a new checking account with Citibank, and the on-line
> > features there seem to be working fine, except I can't find a way to
> > get pending payments to download until they've cleared at the bank.
> > > I'd like to be able to use epay directly from Money 2006 through

> > Citibank, but I can't figure out how to get around Money's seeming
> > insistence that I use MSN Bill Pay.
> > > Is there a way to do this?

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Old 11-06-2006, 01:56 AM
Chris Cowles
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Go here: http://www.microsoft.com/money/bankonline.aspx and look for
Citibank. The link I found there refers to Citibank Online supporting
'Direct Services'. That means you can connect direct from Money to the
bank's servers. That may be for download only. Contact the bank directly to
ask if they support BillPay through Money.

--
Chris Cowles
Gainesville, FL


"Garry" <Eli1962[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I've opened a new checking account with Citibank, and the on-line
> features there seem to be working fine, except I can't find a way to
> get pending payments to download until they've cleared at the bank.
> I'd like to be able to use epay directly from Money 2006 through
> Citibank, but I can't figure out how to get around Money's seeming
> insistence that I use MSN Bill Pay.
> Is there a way to do this?



 
Old 11-06-2006, 01:47 AM
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Garry wrote:
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> I can't find a way to
> get pending payments to download until they've cleared at the bank.


Do you download transactions from the Citi website or directly from
within Money?


- quote -

> I'd like to be able to use epay directly from Money 2006 through
> Citibank, but I can't figure out how to get around Money's seeming
> insistence that I use MSN Bill Pay.


If you setup online services within Money for Citibank, what services
does it offer? If Bill Pay is not one of them then you're out of luck!


In addition, I'm not sure whether you'd be able to use MSN Bill Pay
within Money 2006. There was a change in the MSN service in 2005 that
precluded new M06 sign-ups until an upgrade to M07.

Regards,
JB

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Old 11-06-2006, 01:25 AM
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Default epay without MSN Bill Pay?

I've opened a new checking account with Citibank, and the on-line
features there seem to be working fine, except I can't find a way to
get pending payments to download until they've cleared at the bank.

I'd like to be able to use epay directly from Money 2006 through
Citibank, but I can't figure out how to get around Money's seeming
insistence that I use MSN Bill Pay.

Is there a way to do this?

 

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