PMBI but the other *rule* that I would add is "don't archive" it only gains
you pain.

Dick has some useful thoughts on his FAQ. Suggest you start at
http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=29

--
Regards
Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

For UK tips & fixes see
http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny.


I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.

"Jeannine" <Jeannine[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Marilyn & Bob wrote:
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I suspect there will be some sort of deals In fact they have rebates
right now. You will notice that I never said free, I did say ".. Usually ..
almost free .. when .. "

Dick,

I apparently haven't been as diligent as I should with backing up. I know I
had it set to back up to my hard drive and compress the backup file on exit,
but that's all I was doing except archiving yearly. Thank you.
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Jeannine


"Dick Watson" wrote:

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Thanks, Cal.

The reason this all happened was because I didn't know how to access my 2005
info off the CD. When the CD file wouldn't open, it asked if I wanted to
restore and I said "Yes." Unfortunately, my active file got restored. My
backup settings are as you advised. My bank downloaded all of my missing
checking account stuff. I'll just have to fake it on the other accounts. I
think I can still get most of the info from the various institution web
sites. (Most of my accounts aren't linked to Money because they are at
institutions not supported by Money 2002.)

Thanks, again. I think I can pretty well recreate things from here. Lesson
learned.
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Jeannine


"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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Marilyn & Bob,

Thanks for the tip, but I don't buy tax software anyway. I've only filed
online for the past 2 years. By going to the IRS website, I've been able to
link to companies that let you use their software for free.
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Jeannine


"Marilyn & Bob" wrote:

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You may prove right about the free with TaxCut deal. But I'm pretty
confident that there will be deals of some form. Intuit will surely offer
some Quicken/TurboTax package deals. Microsoft will have to follow, in
lockstep, somehow. I agree they might try to do the freebie with MEss; but
there have always been deals on other editions as well. (Maybe not quite so
good, but $10 or $20 isn't even a tank of gas, either.)

There are two times each year that this NG really picks up with new users.
Once after Xmas (bundled on new PCs and new years financial improvement
resolvers, probably) and once in late tax season (people saying "there has
to be a better way next year" and people getting the tax SW+PFM deals). It
used to pick up with the new version release. Not so much anymore. Since
maybe M02, what's been to care about? We haven't even had a half-hearted
wishlist thread in a while. Seems so pointless.

"Marilyn & Bob" <Privacy[at]nospam.please> wrote in message
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When you do a Money File Restore, Money prompts to save the restored file in
the name of the file that was backed up. If a file with that name already
exists, I **recall** that it asks if you are sure you want to overwrite that
file. If you say yes, that's it. It's just like copying one Word file over
another and saying yes. One file replaces the other. The original file is
lost for eternity.

Your only hope then is you have a separate backup of the file or a Money
backup that is more recent than the one you just restored.

Several morals of the story:

1) Make sure your backups have backups. (I.e., multiple generations, maybe
even one stored off-site)
2) Have backups in different form (e.g., floppy, CD, flash drive, separate
system) and kind (e.g., Money .MBF backup, copy of the .MNY file)
3) Periodically test your backups to make sure they really are.

To this, one might add:
A) When restoring a Money backup, restore it to a different name than
prompted or rename the file you would otherwise restore it on top of.

"Jeannine" <Jeannine[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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In microsoft.public.money, Jeannine wrote:

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In the future, if you are not sure if a restore will not overwrite
something important, consider restoring to an non-default filename.

For the future, in Tools-> Options-> Backup I suggest checking
x Automatically backup to hard disk on exit
x Prompt me before backing up each time*
x Make my file small ...

Then periodically, perhaps once per month or more, copy your
latest backup (named differently from your earlier backups) to a
CDR. With XP, this can be a copy and paste operation. Otherwise
use the burning software that came with your CDR drive.

I strongly suggest use of a USB Flash drive also, in addition to
backing up to your hard drive. They typically act like a big
floppy. For a more automated way to make multiple backups, see
Glyn Simpson's method at http://money.mvps.org/backup.aspx


* This has two advantages. You can change the file name
occasionally. I like to pick a name something like money061112.
Then it is easy to change the name to have multiple backups. The
..mbf extension is automatic. The other advantage is that you can
choose "Don't Back Up, or you change your mind about exiting by
simply clicking the X in the upper right of the pop-up box.

Money 2007 automatically makes multiple backups on your hard drive
by default. So there is more than one version to choose from if you
restore.

Cal,

Thanks again for your help. I did as Joseph suggested and copied the CD of
2005 back to my hard drive. I can now access it, so problem 1 is solved. I
have 2005 back.

Now, for the missing parts of 2006, from September to the present. I have
two backup files, both .mbf, titled and propertied as follows:
My Money Backup 0.mbf
6.45 MB
Created: November 01, 2006, 7:43:15 AM
Modified: November 01, 2006, 7:43:15 AM
Accessed: November 01, 2006, 9:53:48 AM
My Money Backup.mbf
987 KB
Created: October 04, 2005, 6:54:01 PM
Modified: November 01, 2006, 9:46:51 AM
Accessed: November 01, 2006, 9:46:51 AM

When I try to open either one just to look at what they contain, they prompt
me to restore. That's how I got in trouble in the first place.
So, to recap, these are the Money files on my computer:
2005 archive copied from CD
active 2006 file missing Sept. to Present
My Money Backup 0.mbf
My Money Backup.mbf

Any thoughts? (Besides the fact that I'm an idiot.)
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Jeannine


"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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In microsoft.public.money, Jeannine wrote:

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It is entirely possible that I don't understand.

A backup file has a .mbf extension. You usually File-> Restore a
backup file, altho File-> Open of a *.mbf file will also start
restore on later versions.

An archive file has the word "Archive" in the name and has a .mny
extension.

If it really is an archive file and you want to look back to how
things were when you did the archive, then Joseph Meehan's solution
is what you need: copy the archive to hard drive, make it not
read-only (Properties for the file in Window Explorer is a way to do
that). Then File-> Open that file from inside Money. You will see how
things were at the time of archive. There is no way to readily to
fully re-integrate an archive file into a newer file.

If this does not handle things *.mny and *.mbf files do you have and
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Thanks, Joseph. I was able to copy the CD to my hard drive and open it, so I
have the 2005 records back.

Yes, I would love to upgrade to the latest version of Money, but I've been
out of work for a while due to health problems and can't afford to.

As to the active Money file, the one containing my 2006 records, I
apparently restored it to the last backup done in September. I am not sure
why it hasn't backed up since then. I used to have it set to backup to my
hard drive on exit, but now as I look at the settings, it isn't set to back
up at all. I just changed it. So, I will look around for another version of
my lost 2006 records.

Is there any way to undo a restore? I think what I did was unwittingly
restored my 2006 records, my active file, to a September backup.

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Jeannine


"Joseph Meehan" wrote:

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"Joseph Meehan" <sligojoe[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Don't be so sure that that there will be a "Free with Purchase of Tax Cut"
deal this year. In previous years when buying Tax Cut you got a coupon for
a free (after mail-in rebate) copy of Money STANDARD. As M$ has eliminated
Money Standard this year (and added the totally useless Money Essentials
which will not allow you to use data from earlier versions of Money in any
case), I am not sure that there will be a deal that gives you a free usable
version of Money with the purchase of Tax Cut this year. I hope I am proved
wrong on this and that they will give Money Deluxe away for free, but I
wouldn't bet on it.
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Peace,
BobJ

Thanks, Cal, but you don't understand what I'm saying. The archive on CD is
only for the year 2005. If I were able to open it, it would only contain
2005. I would have nothing from 2006. At least the active version of Money on
my hard drive has 1/1/06 to 9/1/06. Nothing before or after though. If that
helps give you a better idea of my problem, I'd love to hear further
suggestions...
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Jeannine


"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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Jeannine wrote:
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You will not be able to open a file on any CD since CD's by
nature are not editable. The files on them are read only. You will need
to copy the file back onto your hard drive. Make sure the properties are
not set to read only on the file after you copy it as they are often set
that when you copy them onto the CD.

As for the missing records, I would guess one of two things. First,
you may have opened not the active file (maybe because you have been trying
to work with the CD) and you found a back up file that has not been updated
since September.) Hunt around and I suspect you will find another 2006 file
that will have all your records. It is also possible that you may have a
corrupted file. I would hope that you have a backup in that case. Money
seems to have a dual level backup by default. On will back up each time you
use it and the other once a week or month etc.

I don't know the Money file well enough to offer an authoritative
suggestion, but if it were mine I would start by saving a copy of the file
in a different location. Next I would see if your version offers repair and
or compact option.

Last, after you get everything set up and back to normal, I would advise
checking your backup procedure to make sure it is working as you intend and
I would suggest now would be a good time to upgrade to the current 2007
version. You can usually find deals during the next few months for almost
free if you are also buying a tax program.

In microsoft.public.money, Jeannine wrote:

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Archive does not work the way you think it does. What it does is to
remove non-investment transactions from before a given date.

The good news, if you have the archive file, is that the "Archive"
file is actually a copy of your file as it existed at the time of
archive. Copy that to another file name, and use that as your real
Money file.

I archived my records from 2005 to a CD. Money won't open the CD and I may
have lost all my 2005 info. In trying to open the archived CD file, I picked
"Restore from Backup." Now, My 2006 file is missing my records from most of
September and all of October! What have I done? Is there any way to fix this?
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Jeannine