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| I set M2006 up as we decided. I just updated and when I exited I got prompted to " Backup?" and when I checked the SETTINGS , it looked OK. I backed up the file and checked the folder and it shows the original file " Nov2006.mbf " as well as this new one - Nov2006_2006-11-01_193545.mbf , so I guess this will have to do and then at the end of each month I'll rename the final one to Nov2006 and delete the others. Bobb "- Bobb -" <bobb[at]noemail.123> wrote in message news:%23bP00cf$GHA.4808[at]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... - quote - > "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message > news:8plhk21lu0uhh0e30at4q95b81kbjj9tjd[at]4ax.com... > > In microsoft.public.money, - Bobb - wrote: > <snip> > > So it's only from the MENU I can elect to specify D: and have it > > > remember ? As you may know, in M2004 I entered the filename including > > > location once and it remembered. I don't back it up daily, but even > > > if I > > > did I would end up with "today's info" in C:\prgs files\moneyfolder > > > and > > > my backup (nov2006) in D:\Money2004\ - at the backup prompt, it > > > shows > > > me that info. > > > "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote in message > > > <snip> > I expect the backup drive and folder to be remembered as long as > > that drive is present whenever the backup is made. > > > Is your D: drive classed as a Local Drive or what when you look at > > the properties with Windows Explorer? > > <snip> It's a local drive. It's worked as I described since M2001 install. > This new filename action (using date to name the file for me) is new > to me in M2006. I've only ever backed up to my D:\Backups\Money\2004 > (or M2006) folder and in there I make one file per month per year then > overwrite it ~weekly until month is over then onto next month's name. > So at year end when I do a directory for each program ( M2004and > M2006) each folder contains 12 files: for the 2005 folder there's > Jan2005.mbf - thru Dec2005.mbf. (same for 2001,2002,2003,2004). Then > I backup to CD. > > > I figure I've got the "everyday" data on C and a backup on D > > > - that's enough (if it does what I ask) > > > That's all I've ever had. If C dies - I could restore from D and > > > every > > > 6 months or so I backup the year from D to CD. > > > I would encourage more than one backup. Disk space is cheap. > True - just keeping it simple. If C dies I have D, if D dies I have > C. If both get smoked by power supply etc, I have CD. I also have it > /use it laptop when I'm on the road, so I have that copy too. > > > > > > > > > If Money 2006 considers the drive to be a "Removable Disk", it > > > > unfortunately ignores the setting and will keep adding additional > > > > backups while drive space remains. > > > > > I'll compare my backup options to your settings - thanks once again. > |
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| "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message news:8plhk21lu0uhh0e30at4q95b81kbjj9tjd[at]4ax.com... - quote - > In microsoft.public.money, - Bobb - wrote:
new filename action (using date to name the file for me) is new to me in<snip> > So it's only from the MENU I can elect to specify D: and have it > > remember ? As you may know, in M2004 I entered the filename including > > location once and it remembered. I don't back it up daily, but even if > > I > > did I would end up with "today's info" in C:\prgs files\moneyfolder > > and > > my backup (nov2006) in D:\Money2004\ - at the backup prompt, it shows > > me that info. > "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote in message > <snip> I expect the backup drive and folder to be remembered as long as > that drive is present whenever the backup is made. > Is your D: drive classed as a Local Drive or what when you look at > the properties with Windows Explorer? > <snip It's a local drive. It's worked as I described since M2001 install. This M2006. I've only ever backed up to my D:\Backups\Money\2004 (or M2006) folder and in there I make one file per month per year then overwrite it ~weekly until month is over then onto next month's name. So at year end when I do a directory for each program ( M2004and M2006) each folder contains 12 files: for the 2005 folder there's Jan2005.mbf - thru Dec2005.mbf. (same for 2001,2002,2003,2004). Then I backup to CD. - quote - > > I figure I've got the "everyday" data on C and a backup on D
True - just keeping it simple. If C dies I have D, if D dies I have C.> > - that's enough (if it does what I ask) > > That's all I've ever had. If C dies - I could restore from D and every > > 6 months or so I backup the year from D to CD. > I would encourage more than one backup. Disk space is cheap. If both get smoked by power supply etc, I have CD. I also have it /use it laptop when I'm on the road, so I have that copy too. - quote - > > > > > If Money 2006 considers the drive to be a "Removable Disk", it > > > unfortunately ignores the setting and will keep adding additional > > > backups while drive space remains. > > > I'll compare my backup options to your settings - thanks once again. |
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| In microsoft.public.money, - Bobb - wrote: - quote - > Thanks for always helping us Cal.
<snip> > Note the +++ line three lines into the description:> Comments inline > "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote in message - quote - > > > In Money 2006 Tools-> Settings-> BackupSettings, I suggest checking
I expect the backup drive and folder to be remembered as long as> > x Automatically backup my Money file every time I close Money > > Save in [+++specify the place on your D drive+++ ] > > x Ask me before backing up each time* > > x Compress Backup Files > > Keep only the _20_most recent backup files [adjust to taste] > So it's only from the MENU I can elect to specify D: and have it > remember ? As you may know, in M2004 I entered the filename including > location once and it remembered. I don't back it up daily, but even if I > did I would end up with "today's info" in C:\prgs files\moneyfolder and > my backup (nov2006) in D:\Money2004\ - at the backup prompt, it shows > me that info. that drive is present whenever the backup is made. Is your D: drive classed as a Local Drive or what when you look at the properties with Windows Explorer? If it is considered a local drive, I expect you could set the "every time I close Money" backup to have only one if you say so. I don't know what would happen if it was classed as a network drive. If it is classified as removable, I think Money is expecting to perhaps be expected to deal with the drive filling up and prompting for swapping in another drive. <snip> I figure I've got the "everyday" data on C and a backup on D - that's - quote - > enough (if it does what I ask)
I would encourage more than one backup. Disk space is cheap.> That's all I've ever had. If C dies - I could restore from D and every > year or so I backup the year from D to CD. - quote - > > > If Money 2006 considers the drive to be a "Removable Disk", it > > unfortunately ignores the setting and will keep adding additional > > backups while drive space remains. > I'll compare my backup options to your settings - thanks once again. |
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| Thanks for always helping us Cal. Comments inline "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message news:qt9hk2lpl4l1ssvt1s1fe5ndd8fj5vp23s[at]4ax.com... - quote - > In microsoft.public.money, - Bobb - wrote:
So it's only from the MENU I can elect to specify D: and have it> > > > In M2006, I THOUGHT I was doing the same but since it doesn't show me > > the path, I just noticed that when I choose BACKUP from the menu and > > clicked on the dropdown to confirm the foldername, that it creates its > > backup on my C drive - in the Money folder - not where I told it - > > d:\Backups\M2006. I had to select d:\Backups\M2006 from the dropdown > > and > > I tried it again - it keeps defaulting to the C drive Money folder. I > > want my backups on my D drive ( in case my C drive dies - isn't that > > what a backup is for !) > Note the +++ line three lines into the description: > In Money 2006 Tools-> Settings-> BackupSettings, I suggest checking > x Automatically backup my Money file every time I close Money > Save in [+++specify the place on your D drive+++ ] > x Ask me before backing up each time* > x Compress Backup Files > Keep only the _20_most recent backup files [adjust to taste] remember ? As you may know, in M2004 I entered the filename including location once and it remembered. I don't back it up daily, but even if I did I would end up with "today's info" in C:\prgs files\moneyfolder and my backup (nov2006) in D:\Money2004\ - at the backup prompt, it shows me that info. - quote - > x Perform scheduled backups every _14_ days
So in M2006 if I only do want the ONE file as a backup - as in> Save in [a USB flash drive location] > x Ask me before backing up each time* > x Compress Backup Files > Keep only the _2_most recent backup files [adjust to taste, > but Money 2006 does not automatically trim to USB as it should] > Then periodically, perhaps once per month or more, copy your latest > backup (uniquely named by Money) to a CDR. With XP, this can be a > copy and paste operation. Otherwise use the burning software that > came with your CDR drive. > I strongly suggest use of a USB Flash rather than floppies. They > are bigger, so you don't have to swap media to back up. Plus > they are much more reliable (but not failure-proof). > * The reason I have Money ask me, is that I don't want to back up > each time I exit. If I went into Money 5 times in a day, I would not > want to back up 5 times, nor would I want to delete 5 other backup > files. You will be given the choice to BackUpNow or to Postpone. You > will also see a Settings button which would let you see and/or > change the destination for the backup without clicking into > Settings. > > > So M2004 and M2006 saves the everyday info in the Money folder - fine. > > But when I back it up I want it to go to the same path on D > > everytime - > > not C. Is that NOT an option in M2006 ? Anyone else been here already > > ? > > And I'm mad at myself for not noticing it. Now I don't have an > > accurate > > monthly snapshot for M2006 - I've been overwriting some of them and > > unknowing renaming others - like: > > June_2006-10-04_215758.mbf > > June_2006-10-13_195226.mbf > > June_2006-11-01_072501.mbf > > > And even when I did manually backup M2006, my intent was to overwrite > > the ONE file for that month, as in M2004, not create different ones > > by > > appending the date to the filename. So, Is this a setup option for me > > somewhere or is this "how it is" with M2006. > The locations you select. The adding of the date+time is how it is. D:\backups\M2006\Nov2006", is there anyway to have it overwritten - just ending up with nov2006 and NOT Nov2006_11_01, Nov2006_11_02, Nov2006_11_03 each day ( if I did a backup each day) ? - quote - > For the backups onto what it consider fixed hard drives ("Local
I figure I've got the "everyday" data on C and a backup on D - that's> Disk" in Properties in Windows Explorer), Money will prune the > quantity properly. Setting that number to 1 for a hard drive seems > undesirable. Many people will unfortunately overwrite their only > good backup in the case of a problem when there is only one backup. enough (if it does what I ask) That's all I've ever had. If C dies - I could restore from D and every year or so I backup the year from D to CD. - quote - > If Money 2006 considers the drive to be a "Removable Disk", it
I'll compare my backup options to your settings - thanks once again.> unfortunately ignores the setting and will keep adding additional > backups while drive space remains. |
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| In microsoft.public.money, - Bobb - wrote: - quote - > In M2006, I THOUGHT I was doing the same but since it doesn't show me
Note the +++ line three lines into the description:> the path, I just noticed that when I choose BACKUP from the menu and > clicked on the dropdown to confirm the foldername, that it creates its > backup on my C drive - in the Money folder - not where I told it - > d:\Backups\M2006. I had to select d:\Backups\M2006 from the dropdown and > I tried it again - it keeps defaulting to the C drive Money folder. I > want my backups on my D drive ( in case my C drive dies - isn't that > what a backup is for !) In Money 2006 Tools-> Settings-> BackupSettings, I suggest checking x Automatically backup my Money file every time I close Money Save in [+++specify the place on your D drive+++ ] x Ask me before backing up each time* x Compress Backup Files Keep only the _20_most recent backup files [adjust to taste] x Perform scheduled backups every _14_ days Save in [a USB flash drive location] x Ask me before backing up each time* x Compress Backup Files Keep only the _2_most recent backup files [adjust to taste, but Money 2006 does not automatically trim to USB as it should] Then periodically, perhaps once per month or more, copy your latest backup (uniquely named by Money) to a CDR. With XP, this can be a copy and paste operation. Otherwise use the burning software that came with your CDR drive. I strongly suggest use of a USB Flash rather than floppies. They are bigger, so you don't have to swap media to back up. Plus they are much more reliable (but not failure-proof). * The reason I have Money ask me, is that I don't want to back up each time I exit. If I went into Money 5 times in a day, I would not want to back up 5 times, nor would I want to delete 5 other backup files. You will be given the choice to BackUpNow or to Postpone. You will also see a Settings button which would let you see and/or change the destination for the backup without clicking into Settings. - quote - > So M2004 and M2006 saves the everyday info in the Money folder - fine.
The locations you select. The adding of the date+time is how it is.> But when I back it up I want it to go to the same path on D everytime - > not C. Is that NOT an option in M2006 ? Anyone else been here already ? > And I'm mad at myself for not noticing it. Now I don't have an accurate > monthly snapshot for M2006 - I've been overwriting some of them and > unknowing renaming others - like: > June_2006-10-04_215758.mbf > June_2006-10-13_195226.mbf > June_2006-11-01_072501.mbf > And even when I did manually backup M2006, my intent was to overwrite > the ONE file for that month, as in M2004, not create different ones by > appending the date to the filename. So, Is this a setup option for me > somewhere or is this "how it is" with M2006. For the backups onto what it consider fixed hard drives ("Local Disk" in Properties in Windows Explorer), Money will prune the quantity properly. Setting that number to 1 for a hard drive seems undesirable. Many people will unfortunately overwrite their only good backup in the case of a problem when there is only one backup. If Money 2006 considers the drive to be a "Removable Disk", it unfortunately ignores the setting and will keep adding additional backups while drive space remains. |
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| I just noticed a difference in the 2 programs and asking if it's something I setup. Is there a way to have Money 2006 show me the file path in the backup prompt ? For backups I use d:\Backups\M2004 and d:\Backups\M2006 folders. Each month I create a new file in there so if I need to go back to ... Mar 2006 I can recreate my file to that date. So I just chose backup from the M2004 menu , backed up to the Oct file, then clicked on the x in upper right to close Money and was prompted ( I have it set to prompt me) to backup the file . When I exit it prompts me to backup and it shows me the default path ( to the Oct2006 filename). Since I'm done with Oct, I create a file for Nov and backup M2004 to the new nov2006 filename. Fine. Next time I backup the default file path is nov2006 until I change it - which I do monthly. In M2006, I THOUGHT I was doing the same but since it doesn't show me the path, I just noticed that when I choose BACKUP from the menu and clicked on the dropdown to confirm the foldername, that it creates its backup on my C drive - in the Money folder - not where I told it - d:\Backups\M2006. I had to select d:\Backups\M2006 from the dropdown and I tried it again - it keeps defaulting to the C drive Money folder. I want my backups on my D drive ( in case my C drive dies - isn't that what a backup is for !) So M2004 and M2006 saves the everyday info in the Money folder - fine. But when I back it up I want it to go to the same path on D everytime - not C. Is that NOT an option in M2006 ? Anyone else been here already ? And I'm mad at myself for not noticing it. Now I don't have an accurate monthly snapshot for M2006 - I've been overwriting some of them and unknowing renaming others - like: June_2006-10-04_215758.mbf June_2006-10-13_195226.mbf June_2006-11-01_072501.mbf And even when I did manually backup M2006, my intent was to overwrite the ONE file for that month, as in M2004, not create different ones by appending the date to the filename. So, Is this a setup option for me somewhere or is this "how it is" with M2006. |
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