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10-20-2006, 03:00 PM
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 Re: $05 Q: How to handle mutual fund maturity class change? Let's make sure we're looking at the same thing -- when viewing your portfolio, do you see "record a special activity" in the sidebar on the left? -- Michael Gordon "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message news:uuO6ObW8GHA.568[at]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... - quote - > $05 SB > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > news:Onsuc2S8GHA.4620[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > Which version of Money do you have? I seem to think that Standard didn't > > offer these transactions. Easiest way to address the open question is > > with > a > > set of Remove and Add Shares transactions. Be sure to enter the basis > info, > > especially if this isn't a tax-deferred account. > > > -- > > Michael Gordon > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > news:Oksj0HN8GHA.4224[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > I see no transaction options in $05 that addresses mergers of stock. > There > > > are fewer options for stock than for mutual funds. > > > > > Back to the open question: How do you handle the class change your way > if > > > only /*some*/ of the shares matured? > > > > > > > > > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > > > news:eATtxnL8GHA.2120[at]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > > No need to read between the lines -- they aren't the same symbol -- > > > > that's > > > > the problem, right? Money deals with mergers, etc. but only with > stocks, > > > not > > > > mutual funds. I agree it should. ........ > > > > > > > -- > > > > Michael Gordon > > > > > > > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > > > news:e2UM86$7GHA.4404[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > > So... reading between the lines, to gather the shares under the same > > > > > symbol > > > > > is has to be a Sell/Buy, right? Sheesh. Hasn't anybody at M$ heard > > > > > of > > > > > mergers and acquisitions, converted shares, or mutual funds > > > > > maturing? > > > > > > > > > So how do you handle it your way if only /*some*/ of the shares > > > > > matured? > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > > > > > news:OyyGSF$7GHA.1560[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > > > Did I mention "move"? Didn't mean to -- if all of your shares were > > > > > > converted, do the appropriate split (to get the correct number of > > > shares) > > > > > > and then rename the fund. There's no move involved. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Michael Gordon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > > > > > news:ufBroq67GHA.3760[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > Okay, I see where you're going - determine the split ratio and > then > > > > > > > move > > > > > > > them. It's the "rename" and move bit I don't understand. I > > > > > > > eventually > > > > > have > > > > > > > to move the converted shares into the appropriate fund. How's > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > accomplished? > > > > > > > > > > > > > existing Class A shares = 43676.8 > > > > > > > existing Class B shares = 300.0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Class B to Class A shares = 244.9 to 226.0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > remaining Class B shares = 55.1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:%23P7es657GHA.4084[at]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > > Number of shares for both the old and new funds. Also, do you > still > > > > > have > > > > > > > > shares of the old fund or were they all converted? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Michael Gordon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:%23ukixYz7GHA.3760[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > > > What kind of details do you need? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > news:ue0VBsy7GHA.1252[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > > > > It would be nice to do a spin-off, but Money doesn't offer > that > > > > > option > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > mutual funds. So the trick is to do a split/rename set of > > > > > > > > > > transactions. > > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > > can help you with that if you provide some details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Michael Gordon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > news:%230fKTiw7GHA.4348[at]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > > > > > Probably and old question here but I haven't found it > > > > > > > > > > > scrolling > > > > > back > > > > > > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After X number of years a mutual fund matures and is > > > automaticly > > > > > > > > > converted > > > > > > > > > > > from Class B shares to Class A shares at the brokerage. > Class > > > > > > > > > > > A > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Class > > > > > > > > > > > B > > > > > > > > > > > shares exist in the portfolio both before and after this > > > > > > > > > > > activity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one handle it in Money 2005? A buy/sell messes up > the > > > > > > > overall > > > > > > > > > > > ROI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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10-16-2006, 09:05 PM
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| Re: $05 Q: How to handle mutual fund maturity class change? $05 SB "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message news:Onsuc2S8GHA.4620[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... - quote - > Which version of Money do you have? I seem to think that Standard didn't > offer these transactions. Easiest way to address the open question is with a > set of Remove and Add Shares transactions. Be sure to enter the basis info, > especially if this isn't a tax-deferred account. > -- > Michael Gordon > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > news:Oksj0HN8GHA.4224[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > I see no transaction options in $05 that addresses mergers of stock. There > > are fewer options for stock than for mutual funds. > > > Back to the open question: How do you handle the class change your way if > > only /*some*/ of the shares matured? > > > > > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > > news:eATtxnL8GHA.2120[at]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > No need to read between the lines -- they aren't the same symbol -- > > > that's > > > the problem, right? Money deals with mergers, etc. but only with stocks, > > not > > > mutual funds. I agree it should. ........ > > > > > -- > > > Michael Gordon > > > > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > > news:e2UM86$7GHA.4404[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > So... reading between the lines, to gather the shares under the same > > > > symbol > > > > is has to be a Sell/Buy, right? Sheesh. Hasn't anybody at M$ heard of > > > > mergers and acquisitions, converted shares, or mutual funds maturing? > > > > > > > So how do you handle it your way if only /*some*/ of the shares > > > > matured? > > > > > > > > > > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > > > > news:OyyGSF$7GHA.1560[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > > Did I mention "move"? Didn't mean to -- if all of your shares were > > > > > converted, do the appropriate split (to get the correct number of > > shares) > > > > > and then rename the fund. There's no move involved. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Michael Gordon > > > > > > > > > > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > > > > news:ufBroq67GHA.3760[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > > > Okay, I see where you're going - determine the split ratio and then > > > > > > move > > > > > > them. It's the "rename" and move bit I don't understand. I > > > > > > eventually > > > > have > > > > > > to move the converted shares into the appropriate fund. How's that > > > > > > accomplished? > > > > > > > > > > > existing Class A shares = 43676.8 > > > > > > existing Class B shares = 300.0 > > > > > > > > > > > Class B to Class A shares = 244.9 to 226.0 > > > > > > > > > > > remaining Class B shares = 55.1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > > > > > > news:%23P7es657GHA.4084[at]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > Number of shares for both the old and new funds. Also, do you still > > > > have > > > > > > > shares of the old fund or were they all converted? > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Michael Gordon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:%23ukixYz7GHA.3760[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > > What kind of details do you need? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:ue0VBsy7GHA.1252[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > > > It would be nice to do a spin-off, but Money doesn't offer that > > > > option > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > mutual funds. So the trick is to do a split/rename set of > > > > > > > > > transactions. > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > can help you with that if you provide some details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Michael Gordon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > news:%230fKTiw7GHA.4348[at]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > > > > Probably and old question here but I haven't found it > > > > > > > > > > scrolling > > > > back > > > > > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After X number of years a mutual fund matures and is > > automaticly > > > > > > > > converted > > > > > > > > > > from Class B shares to Class A shares at the brokerage. Class > > > > > > > > > > A > > > > and > > > > > > > > Class > > > > > > > > > > B > > > > > > > > > > shares exist in the portfolio both before and after this > > > > > > > > > > activity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one handle it in Money 2005? A buy/sell messes up the > > > > > > overall > > > > > > > > > > ROI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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10-16-2006, 02:16 PM
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| Re: $05 Q: How to handle mutual fund maturity class change? Which version of Money do you have? I seem to think that Standard didn't offer these transactions. Easiest way to address the open question is with a set of Remove and Add Shares transactions. Be sure to enter the basis info, especially if this isn't a tax-deferred account. -- Michael Gordon "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message news:Oksj0HN8GHA.4224[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... - quote - > I see no transaction options in $05 that addresses mergers of stock. There > are fewer options for stock than for mutual funds. > Back to the open question: How do you handle the class change your way if > only /*some*/ of the shares matured? > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > news:eATtxnL8GHA.2120[at]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > No need to read between the lines -- they aren't the same symbol -- > > that's > > the problem, right? Money deals with mergers, etc. but only with stocks, > not > > mutual funds. I agree it should. ........ > > > -- > > Michael Gordon > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > news:e2UM86$7GHA.4404[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > So... reading between the lines, to gather the shares under the same > > > symbol > > > is has to be a Sell/Buy, right? Sheesh. Hasn't anybody at M$ heard of > > > mergers and acquisitions, converted shares, or mutual funds maturing? > > > > > So how do you handle it your way if only /*some*/ of the shares > > > matured? > > > > > > > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > > > news:OyyGSF$7GHA.1560[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > Did I mention "move"? Didn't mean to -- if all of your shares were > > > > converted, do the appropriate split (to get the correct number of > shares) > > > > and then rename the fund. There's no move involved. > > > > > > > -- > > > > Michael Gordon > > > > > > > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > > > news:ufBroq67GHA.3760[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > > Okay, I see where you're going - determine the split ratio and then > > > > > move > > > > > them. It's the "rename" and move bit I don't understand. I > > > > > eventually > > > have > > > > > to move the converted shares into the appropriate fund. How's that > > > > > accomplished? > > > > > > > > > existing Class A shares = 43676.8 > > > > > existing Class B shares = 300.0 > > > > > > > > > Class B to Class A shares = 244.9 to 226.0 > > > > > > > > > remaining Class B shares = 55.1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > > > > > news:%23P7es657GHA.4084[at]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > > > > > Number of shares for both the old and new funds. Also, do you still > > > have > > > > > > shares of the old fund or were they all converted? > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Michael Gordon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > > > > > news:%23ukixYz7GHA.3760[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > What kind of details do you need? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:ue0VBsy7GHA.1252[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > > It would be nice to do a spin-off, but Money doesn't offer that > > > option > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > mutual funds. So the trick is to do a split/rename set of > > > > > > > > transactions. > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > can help you with that if you provide some details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Michael Gordon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:%230fKTiw7GHA.4348[at]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > > > Probably and old question here but I haven't found it > > > > > > > > > scrolling > > > back > > > > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After X number of years a mutual fund matures and is > automaticly > > > > > > > converted > > > > > > > > > from Class B shares to Class A shares at the brokerage. Class > > > > > > > > > A > > > and > > > > > > > Class > > > > > > > > > B > > > > > > > > > shares exist in the portfolio both before and after this > > > > > > > > > activity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one handle it in Money 2005? A buy/sell messes up the > > > > > overall > > > > > > > > > ROI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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10-16-2006, 03:19 AM
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| Re: $05 Q: How to handle mutual fund maturity class change? I see no transaction options in $05 that addresses mergers of stock. There are fewer options for stock than for mutual funds. Back to the open question: How do you handle the class change your way if only /*some*/ of the shares matured? "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message news:eATtxnL8GHA.2120[at]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... - quote - > No need to read between the lines -- they aren't the same symbol -- that's > the problem, right? Money deals with mergers, etc. but only with stocks, not > mutual funds. I agree it should. ........ > -- > Michael Gordon > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > news:e2UM86$7GHA.4404[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > So... reading between the lines, to gather the shares under the same > > symbol > > is has to be a Sell/Buy, right? Sheesh. Hasn't anybody at M$ heard of > > mergers and acquisitions, converted shares, or mutual funds maturing? > > > So how do you handle it your way if only /*some*/ of the shares matured? > > > > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > > news:OyyGSF$7GHA.1560[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > Did I mention "move"? Didn't mean to -- if all of your shares were > > > converted, do the appropriate split (to get the correct number of shares) > > > and then rename the fund. There's no move involved. > > > > > -- > > > Michael Gordon > > > > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > > news:ufBroq67GHA.3760[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > Okay, I see where you're going - determine the split ratio and then > > > > move > > > > them. It's the "rename" and move bit I don't understand. I eventually > > have > > > > to move the converted shares into the appropriate fund. How's that > > > > accomplished? > > > > > > > existing Class A shares = 43676.8 > > > > existing Class B shares = 300.0 > > > > > > > Class B to Class A shares = 244.9 to 226.0 > > > > > > > remaining Class B shares = 55.1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > > > > news:%23P7es657GHA.4084[at]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > > > > Number of shares for both the old and new funds. Also, do you still > > have > > > > > shares of the old fund or were they all converted? > > > > > -- > > > > > Michael Gordon > > > > > > > > > > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > > > > news:%23ukixYz7GHA.3760[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > > > What kind of details do you need? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > > > > > > news:ue0VBsy7GHA.1252[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > It would be nice to do a spin-off, but Money doesn't offer that > > option > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > mutual funds. So the trick is to do a split/rename set of > > > > > > > transactions. > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > can help you with that if you provide some details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Michael Gordon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:%230fKTiw7GHA.4348[at]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > > Probably and old question here but I haven't found it scrolling > > back > > > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After X number of years a mutual fund matures and is automaticly > > > > > > converted > > > > > > > > from Class B shares to Class A shares at the brokerage. Class A > > and > > > > > > Class > > > > > > > > B > > > > > > > > shares exist in the portfolio both before and after this > > > > > > > > activity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one handle it in Money 2005? A buy/sell messes up the > > > > overall > > > > > > > > ROI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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10-16-2006, 12:28 AM
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| Re: $05 Q: How to handle mutual fund maturity class change? No need to read between the lines -- they aren't the same symbol -- that's the problem, right? Money deals with mergers, etc. but only with stocks, not mutual funds. I agree it should. ........ -- Michael Gordon "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message news:e2UM86$7GHA.4404[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... - quote - > So... reading between the lines, to gather the shares under the same > symbol > is has to be a Sell/Buy, right? Sheesh. Hasn't anybody at M$ heard of > mergers and acquisitions, converted shares, or mutual funds maturing? > So how do you handle it your way if only /*some*/ of the shares matured? > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > news:OyyGSF$7GHA.1560[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > Did I mention "move"? Didn't mean to -- if all of your shares were > > converted, do the appropriate split (to get the correct number of shares) > > and then rename the fund. There's no move involved. > > > -- > > Michael Gordon > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > news:ufBroq67GHA.3760[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > Okay, I see where you're going - determine the split ratio and then > > > move > > > them. It's the "rename" and move bit I don't understand. I eventually > have > > > to move the converted shares into the appropriate fund. How's that > > > accomplished? > > > > > existing Class A shares = 43676.8 > > > existing Class B shares = 300.0 > > > > > Class B to Class A shares = 244.9 to 226.0 > > > > > remaining Class B shares = 55.1 > > > > > > > > > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > > > news:%23P7es657GHA.4084[at]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > > > Number of shares for both the old and new funds. Also, do you still > have > > > > shares of the old fund or were they all converted? > > > > -- > > > > Michael Gordon > > > > > > > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > > > news:%23ukixYz7GHA.3760[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > > What kind of details do you need? > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > > > > > news:ue0VBsy7GHA.1252[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > > > It would be nice to do a spin-off, but Money doesn't offer that > option > > > > > > for > > > > > > mutual funds. So the trick is to do a split/rename set of > > > > > > transactions. > > > > > > We > > > > > > can help you with that if you provide some details. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Michael Gordon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > > > > > news:%230fKTiw7GHA.4348[at]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > > > > > Probably and old question here but I haven't found it scrolling > back > > > > > > > through > > > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > After X number of years a mutual fund matures and is automaticly > > > > > converted > > > > > > > from Class B shares to Class A shares at the brokerage. Class A > and > > > > > Class > > > > > > > B > > > > > > > shares exist in the portfolio both before and after this > > > > > > > activity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does one handle it in Money 2005? A buy/sell messes up the > > > overall > > > > > > > ROI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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10-15-2006, 02:07 AM
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| Re: $05 Q: How to handle mutual fund maturity class change? So... reading between the lines, to gather the shares under the same symbol is has to be a Sell/Buy, right? Sheesh. Hasn't anybody at M$ heard of mergers and acquisitions, converted shares, or mutual funds maturing? So how do you handle it your way if only /*some*/ of the shares matured? "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message news:OyyGSF$7GHA.1560[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... - quote - > Did I mention "move"? Didn't mean to -- if all of your shares were > converted, do the appropriate split (to get the correct number of shares) > and then rename the fund. There's no move involved. > -- > Michael Gordon > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > news:ufBroq67GHA.3760[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > Okay, I see where you're going - determine the split ratio and then move > > them. It's the "rename" and move bit I don't understand. I eventually have > > to move the converted shares into the appropriate fund. How's that > > accomplished? > > > existing Class A shares = 43676.8 > > existing Class B shares = 300.0 > > > Class B to Class A shares = 244.9 to 226.0 > > > remaining Class B shares = 55.1 > > > > > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > > news:%23P7es657GHA.4084[at]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > > Number of shares for both the old and new funds. Also, do you still have > > > shares of the old fund or were they all converted? > > > -- > > > Michael Gordon > > > > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > > news:%23ukixYz7GHA.3760[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > What kind of details do you need? > > > > > > > > > > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > > > > news:ue0VBsy7GHA.1252[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > > It would be nice to do a spin-off, but Money doesn't offer that option > > > > > for > > > > > mutual funds. So the trick is to do a split/rename set of > > > > > transactions. > > > > > We > > > > > can help you with that if you provide some details. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Michael Gordon > > > > > > > > > > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > > > > news:%230fKTiw7GHA.4348[at]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > > > > Probably and old question here but I haven't found it scrolling back > > > > > > through > > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > After X number of years a mutual fund matures and is automaticly > > > > converted > > > > > > from Class B shares to Class A shares at the brokerage. Class A and > > > > Class > > > > > > B > > > > > > shares exist in the portfolio both before and after this activity. > > > > > > > > > > > How does one handle it in Money 2005? A buy/sell messes up the > > overall > > > > > > ROI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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10-15-2006, 12:31 AM
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| Re: $05 Q: How to handle mutual fund maturity class change? Did I mention "move"? Didn't mean to -- if all of your shares were converted, do the appropriate split (to get the correct number of shares) and then rename the fund. There's no move involved. -- Michael Gordon "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message news:ufBroq67GHA.3760[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... - quote - > Okay, I see where you're going - determine the split ratio and then move > them. It's the "rename" and move bit I don't understand. I eventually have > to move the converted shares into the appropriate fund. How's that > accomplished? > existing Class A shares = 43676.8 > existing Class B shares = 300.0 > Class B to Class A shares = 244.9 to 226.0 > remaining Class B shares = 55.1 > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > news:%23P7es657GHA.4084[at]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > Number of shares for both the old and new funds. Also, do you still have > > shares of the old fund or were they all converted? > > -- > > Michael Gordon > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > news:%23ukixYz7GHA.3760[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > What kind of details do you need? > > > > > > > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > > > news:ue0VBsy7GHA.1252[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > It would be nice to do a spin-off, but Money doesn't offer that option > > > > for > > > > mutual funds. So the trick is to do a split/rename set of > > > > transactions. > > > > We > > > > can help you with that if you provide some details. > > > > > > > -- > > > > Michael Gordon > > > > > > > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > > > news:%230fKTiw7GHA.4348[at]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > > > Probably and old question here but I haven't found it scrolling back > > > > > through > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > After X number of years a mutual fund matures and is automaticly > > > converted > > > > > from Class B shares to Class A shares at the brokerage. Class A and > > > Class > > > > > B > > > > > shares exist in the portfolio both before and after this activity. > > > > > > > > > How does one handle it in Money 2005? A buy/sell messes up the > overall > > > > > ROI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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10-14-2006, 04:06 PM
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| Re: $05 Q: How to handle mutual fund maturity class change? Okay, I see where you're going - determine the split ratio and then move them. It's the "rename" and move bit I don't understand. I eventually have to move the converted shares into the appropriate fund. How's that accomplished? existing Class A shares = 43676.8 existing Class B shares = 300.0 Class B to Class A shares = 244.9 to 226.0 remaining Class B shares = 55.1 "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message news:%23P7es657GHA.4084[at]TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... - quote - > Number of shares for both the old and new funds. Also, do you still have > shares of the old fund or were they all converted? > -- > Michael Gordon > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > news:%23ukixYz7GHA.3760[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > What kind of details do you need? > > > > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > > news:ue0VBsy7GHA.1252[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > It would be nice to do a spin-off, but Money doesn't offer that option > > > for > > > mutual funds. So the trick is to do a split/rename set of transactions. > > > We > > > can help you with that if you provide some details. > > > > > -- > > > Michael Gordon > > > > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > > news:%230fKTiw7GHA.4348[at]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > > Probably and old question here but I haven't found it scrolling back > > > > through > > > > time. > > > > > > > After X number of years a mutual fund matures and is automaticly > > converted > > > > from Class B shares to Class A shares at the brokerage. Class A and > > Class > > > > B > > > > shares exist in the portfolio both before and after this activity. > > > > > > > How does one handle it in Money 2005? A buy/sell messes up the overall > > > > ROI. > > > > > > > > > > > |
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10-14-2006, 02:40 PM
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| Re: $05 Q: How to handle mutual fund maturity class change? Number of shares for both the old and new funds. Also, do you still have shares of the old fund or were they all converted? -- Michael Gordon "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message news:%23ukixYz7GHA.3760[at]TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... - quote - > What kind of details do you need? > "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message > news:ue0VBsy7GHA.1252[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > It would be nice to do a spin-off, but Money doesn't offer that option > > for > > mutual funds. So the trick is to do a split/rename set of transactions. > > We > > can help you with that if you provide some details. > > > -- > > Michael Gordon > > > > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > > news:%230fKTiw7GHA.4348[at]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > Probably and old question here but I haven't found it scrolling back > > > through > > > time. > > > > > After X number of years a mutual fund matures and is automaticly > converted > > > from Class B shares to Class A shares at the brokerage. Class A and > Class > > > B > > > shares exist in the portfolio both before and after this activity. > > > > > How does one handle it in Money 2005? A buy/sell messes up the overall > > > ROI. > > > > > > |
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10-14-2006, 02:12 AM
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| Re: $05 Q: How to handle mutual fund maturity class change? What kind of details do you need? "Michael Gordon" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message news:ue0VBsy7GHA.1252[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... - quote - > It would be nice to do a spin-off, but Money doesn't offer that option for > mutual funds. So the trick is to do a split/rename set of transactions. We > can help you with that if you provide some details. > -- > Michael Gordon > "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message > news:%230fKTiw7GHA.4348[at]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > Probably and old question here but I haven't found it scrolling back > > through > > time. > > > After X number of years a mutual fund matures and is automaticly converted > > from Class B shares to Class A shares at the brokerage. Class A and Class > > B > > shares exist in the portfolio both before and after this activity. > > > How does one handle it in Money 2005? A buy/sell messes up the overall > > ROI. > |
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10-14-2006, 12:52 AM
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| Re: $05 Q: How to handle mutual fund maturity class change? It would be nice to do a spin-off, but Money doesn't offer that option for mutual funds. So the trick is to do a split/rename set of transactions. We can help you with that if you provide some details. -- Michael Gordon "MyndPhlyp" <nobody[at]homeright.now> wrote in message news:%230fKTiw7GHA.4348[at]TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... - quote - > Probably and old question here but I haven't found it scrolling back > through > time. > After X number of years a mutual fund matures and is automaticly converted > from Class B shares to Class A shares at the brokerage. Class A and Class > B > shares exist in the portfolio both before and after this activity. > How does one handle it in Money 2005? A buy/sell messes up the overall > ROI. |
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10-13-2006, 08:45 PM
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| $05 Q: How to handle mutual fund maturity class change? Probably and old question here but I haven't found it scrolling back through time. After X number of years a mutual fund matures and is automaticly converted from Class B shares to Class A shares at the brokerage. Class A and Class B shares exist in the portfolio both before and after this activity. How does one handle it in Money 2005? A buy/sell messes up the overall ROI. |
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