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Old 09-29-2006, 11:57 PM
Michael Gordon, MVP
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File Repair failed for you? Can you explain more? I found that the Repair
seemed to hang -- "not responding" -- and, after quite a while, Repair
finished. Is that what you saw? I should mention that I concluded that I had
data corruption and it disappared after moving to M07

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"Rex B" <rex[at]wmautomotive.com> wrote in message
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> Dick Watson wrote:
> > > > 3. Have you tried doing a "repair"?
> > > I'm not familiar with that.
> > > File|Repair has several repair methods, but I wouldn't expect miracles.

> I found that, tried it, would not allow me to do it for reasons I don't
> understand.
> > > Were I you, I'd consider the Nuke-The-Bills method supplied in M07. My

> > file had serious performance and stability issues under M06. Once A LOT
> > of work for the aforementioned "repair" was completed under M07, I've had
> > great improvements in both performance and stability. The method is not
> > without its complications, but they may be worth it to you. See
> > http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=187.

> I will take a look at that.
> You didn't mention, IIRC, what edition
> > you are using;

> 2006 Deluxe
> you might want to try this using the Deluxe trial version to
> > see if it might be worth the change to M07. Note that I didn't say
> > "upgrade". The prime reason I changed to M07 was the performance and
> > stability benefits afforded by Nuke-The-Bills.



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Old 09-29-2006, 03:46 PM
Dick Watson
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I struggled with doing that for my 100+ bills.

The gain was dramatic. Recreating the bills took about four hours using
techniques--primarily the remote desktop use of one app so that I could have
two versions on the same screen simultaneously to copy bill info from the
pre-nuked M0x file to the post nuked M07 file. I've surely saved that much
time that I would have spent watching Money think since I did it.

I think the referenced item, and my prior post, speaks for itself as to the
issues with going down this path. If the performance is enough of an issue
to you, you might consider it, but suit yourself entirely. I'm just pointing
out a choice you do have.

One way to test is to just do the nuke then play with the file without
adding any scheduled bills back in. Even in that state, the gain in
performance I saw was immediate and readily apparent elsewhere in the
application.

"Rex B" <rex[at]wmautomotive.com> wrote in message
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> Dick Watson wrote:
> > Were I you, I'd consider the Nuke-The-Bills method supplied in M07.

> That wipes out all the scheduled bills.
> I'm not going to re-enter 400 recurring bills again.



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Old 09-29-2006, 03:20 PM
Rex B
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Dick Watson wrote:
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> Were I you, I'd consider the Nuke-The-Bills method supplied in M07.

That wipes out all the scheduled bills.
I'm not going to re-enter 400 recurring bills again.
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Old 09-29-2006, 03:15 PM
Rex B
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Dick Watson wrote:
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> > > 3. Have you tried doing a "repair"?
> > I'm not familiar with that.

> File|Repair has several repair methods, but I wouldn't expect miracles.


I found that, tried it, would not allow me to do it for reasons I don't
understand.

- quote -

> Were I you, I'd consider the Nuke-The-Bills method supplied in M07. My file
> had serious performance and stability issues under M06. Once A LOT of work
> for the aforementioned "repair" was completed under M07, I've had great
> improvements in both performance and stability. The method is not without
> its complications, but they may be worth it to you. See
> http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=187.


I will take a look at that.

You didn't mention, IIRC, what edition
- quote -

> you are using;

2006 Deluxe

you might want to try this using the Deluxe trial version to
- quote -

> see if it might be worth the change to M07. Note that I didn't say
> "upgrade". The prime reason I changed to M07 was the performance and
> stability benefits afforded by Nuke-The-Bills.

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Old 09-29-2006, 03:08 PM
Dick Watson
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Comments inline.

"Rex B" <rex[at]wmautomotive.com> wrote in message
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> > 2. In what ways is your use "non-standard"?
> 100+ checking accounts?


That alone shouldn't be much of an issue.

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> > 3. Have you tried doing a "repair"?
> I'm not familiar with that.


File|Repair has several repair methods, but I wouldn't expect miracles.

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> I figured the number of bills scheduled might be an issue. Operations
> there take quite a while to digest. For example, I can edit a scheduled
> bill, hit save, then it takes about a minute before I can go on to the
> next.


Were I you, I'd consider the Nuke-The-Bills method supplied in M07. My file
had serious performance and stability issues under M06. Once A LOT of work
for the aforementioned "repair" was completed under M07, I've had great
improvements in both performance and stability. The method is not without
its complications, but they may be worth it to you. See
http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=187. You didn't mention, IIRC, what edition
you are using; you might want to try this using the Deluxe trial version to
see if it might be worth the change to M07. Note that I didn't say
"upgrade". The prime reason I changed to M07 was the performance and
stability benefits afforded by Nuke-The-Bills.


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Old 09-29-2006, 02:43 PM
Rex B
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Michael Gordon, MVP wrote:
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> Couple of questions:
> 1.What page opens when Money starts, Rex? There's stuff on the Home Page
> that can slow things down.


It opens to the Accounts list

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> 2. In what ways is your use "non-standard"?

100+ checking accounts?

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> 3. Have you tried doing a "repair"?

I'm not familiar with that.

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> In general, the number of open accounts is large, but I can't see what that
> should be a problem. And the number of total transactions is really rather
> modest.


I figured the number of bills scheduled might be an issue. Operations
there take quite a while to digest. For example, I can edit a scheduled
bill, hit save, then it takes about a minute before I can go on to the
next.
 
Old 09-28-2006, 11:30 PM
Michael Gordon, MVP
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Default Re: Speed issues

Couple of questions:
1.What page opens when Money starts, Rex? There's stuff on the Home Page
that can slow things down.
2. In what ways is your use "non-standard"?
3. Have you tried doing a "repair"?

In general, the number of open accounts is large, but I can't see what that
should be a problem. And the number of total transactions is really rather
modest.
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MVP


"Rex B" <rex[at]wmautomotive.com> wrote in message
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> I'm using MS Money 2006 in a non-standard way, and it's taking way too
> long to load - approaching 30 minutes. Editing bills takes about 2
> minutes per saved change
> Number of accounts is about 100
> Entries per account = 3 or 4 per month, or 40 per account per year.
> History is currently at about 18 months on all accounts, so I probably
> have 700 transactions total. Is that the problem? IF so, I don't think I
> can do anything about it.
> Each account has 3 scheduled monthly "bills" on autopay, and 1 "twice a
> year" bill
> Is there anything I can do to make this load faster - options I can
> discontinue, changes in the way I'm doing things?
> --
> - -
> Rex Burkheimer
> WM Automotive
> Fort Worth TX



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Old 09-28-2006, 06:09 PM
Rex B
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Default Speed issues

I'm using MS Money 2006 in a non-standard way, and it's taking way too
long to load - approaching 30 minutes. Editing bills takes about 2
minutes per saved change

Number of accounts is about 100
Entries per account = 3 or 4 per month, or 40 per account per year.
History is currently at about 18 months on all accounts, so I probably
have 700 transactions total. Is that the problem? IF so, I don't think
I can do anything about it.
Each account has 3 scheduled monthly "bills" on autopay, and 1 "twice a
year" bill

Is there anything I can do to make this load faster - options I can
discontinue, changes in the way I'm doing things?


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WM Automotive
Fort Worth TX
 

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