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Old 09-04-2006, 01:31 AM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: Positions adjusted to match balance at institution - A big Pro

In microsoft.public.money, Brandt wrote:

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> By the way, Do you know how to input an inheritance transaction and not have
> the tax estimator suggest that I owe 80 thousand in taxes or have the cash
> flow estimator say that I am going to have 60 million by the time I am 40? I
> have not figured out a way to record the transaction with out assigning the
> category as an income that is used by the reports to estimate future income
> or tax liability.


You can create a category such as Gift Received. Money will ask
about that category, and you will indicate it is not taxable.
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Old 09-04-2006, 01:30 AM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: Positions adjusted to match balance at institution - A big Pro

In microsoft.public.money, Brandt wrote:

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> I will have to verify exactly how the transactions appear however I remember
> updating and then clicking on the fidelity account link on the account list
> which causes the update transactions to appear. It shows you the
> transactions available for updating and then you can click next or cancel.
> When you click next, if the transaction is a buy or sell it will open the
> appropriate dialog asking you if it is a new security or of one you already
> own and you allows you to confirm. If Money decides to "adjust the shares"
> you only have next or cancel and if you cancel I thought you could no longer
> continue accepting transactions.


At that point is a radio button selection that says "No, do not
update my account. I will make any necessary changes myself."



- quote -

> I do remember at one time I did accept the
> transaction and then I deleted it hoping that it would reappear again at a
> later date with the correct information but I was wrong and at the end of the
> month I had to enter the transaction in manually. I did send an email to
> Fidelity letting them know of this problem and another one not nearly as
> problematic (Differences between short term distributions/Long term
> distributions/and dividends from mutual funds which money cannot decipher
> either) but their response was the standard you get from every other bank.
> "Allowing downloads from Money or Quicken is a free benefit to your account
> however 'Fidelity' offers no support for the application or the online
> updating that the software packages provide." When you couple in the
> estimated gains that the Investing page displays(gain/#ofdays*365) I am
> starting to believe that the developers weren't really sure what to do with
> security investments.
> What do you mean by disabling background banking?
> "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:
> > In microsoft.public.money, Brandt wrote:
> > > > When
> > > recording cash transactions Money should not record any transactions just for
> > > the sake of matching share ballances. I am about to turn off automatic
> > > updates for this account because I have to go back and waste as much time
> > > reconciling as if I have just entered all the buy, sell, open, close, and
> > > dividend transactions my self. Does any one have an answer for this?
> > > Doesn't Money ask if it should adjust positions? Just click the

> > radio button to not have Money adjust positions.
> > > Perhaps you are using background banking. You can download Fidelity

> > transactions without background banking being enabled.
> >
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Old 09-04-2006, 01:06 AM
Brandt
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Default Re: Positions adjusted to match balance at institution - A big Pro

As I posted to the first reply, I will have to make sure I am positive but I
believe I have tried that to no avail. I just don't understand why money
would even try to "adjust shares" since the shares have had to come from
somewhere. I am not arguing the fact that the availablity of that option
isn't nice and in some instances even necessary (When not recording cash
transactions) however when cash transactions are turned on that outcome
should not be possible. It should pop up the same warning as when you try to
assign a payment as an income category or vicaversa.

By the way, Do you know how to input an inheritance transaction and not have
the tax estimator suggest that I owe 80 thousand in taxes or have the cash
flow estimator say that I am going to have 60 million by the time I am 40? I
have not figured out a way to record the transaction with out assigning the
category as an income that is used by the reports to estimate future income
or tax liability.

"Michael Gordon, MVP" wrote:

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> If money sees a discrepancy, it asks wheter you want to adjust the balances.
> If you say yes, then the memo field says something such as "balance adjusted
> .......". Just decline theoffer.
> --
> Michael Gordon
> MVP
> "Brandt" <Brandt[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AC86ABEE-4F16-4C8B-9D58-15F3833BD2CE[at]microsoft.com...
> > Recently I noticed that the ballance of my investment account in money
> > (2007)
> > did not match fidelity's ballance and I started researching. I quickly
> > noticed (sometimes) when a divided was issued and shares repurchased with
> > that divided money would just update the shares to reflect the amount of
> > shares in the account. I had to go through 2 years of statements to
> > correct
> > this problem. I found this: When you purchase shares through fidelity,
> > fidelity updates your account with the correct number of shares however
> > the
> > cash transaction made to purchase those shares does not clear until the
> > following day. When money checks the account and a transaction like this
> > in
> > limbo it will (wrongly) update the amount of shares you have as if the
> > shares
> > came out of thin air and does nothing to notify you. It enters a
> > transaction
> > with a quantity, no price and a memo (Positions adjusted to match balance
> > at
> > institution.) to let you know it did something wrong. Further when the
> > cash
> > transaction does show up at fidelity it doesn't record it! Now I know
> > that
> > investment accounts in money that have NOT been selected to record cash
> > transactions work this way however this is not the case for my account.
> > When
> > recording cash transactions Money should not record any transactions just
> > for
> > the sake of matching share ballances. I am about to turn off automatic
> > updates for this account because I have to go back and waste as much time
> > reconciling as if I have just entered all the buy, sell, open, close, and
> > dividend transactions my self. Does any one have an answer for this?

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Old 09-04-2006, 12:51 AM
Brandt
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Default Re: Positions adjusted to match balance at institution - A big Pro

I will have to verify exactly how the transactions appear however I remember
updating and then clicking on the fidelity account link on the account list
which causes the update transactions to appear. It shows you the
transactions available for updating and then you can click next or cancel.
When you click next, if the transaction is a buy or sell it will open the
appropriate dialog asking you if it is a new security or of one you already
own and you allows you to confirm. If Money decides to "adjust the shares"
you only have next or cancel and if you cancel I thought you could no longer
continue accepting transactions. I do remember at one time I did accept the
transaction and then I deleted it hoping that it would reappear again at a
later date with the correct information but I was wrong and at the end of the
month I had to enter the transaction in manually. I did send an email to
Fidelity letting them know of this problem and another one not nearly as
problematic (Differences between short term distributions/Long term
distributions/and dividends from mutual funds which money cannot decipher
either) but their response was the standard you get from every other bank.
"Allowing downloads from Money or Quicken is a free benefit to your account
however 'Fidelity' offers no support for the application or the online
updating that the software packages provide." When you couple in the
estimated gains that the Investing page displays(gain/#ofdays*365) I am
starting to believe that the developers weren't really sure what to do with
security investments.

What do you mean by disabling background banking?

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, Brandt wrote:
> > When
> > recording cash transactions Money should not record any transactions just for
> > the sake of matching share ballances. I am about to turn off automatic
> > updates for this account because I have to go back and waste as much time
> > reconciling as if I have just entered all the buy, sell, open, close, and
> > dividend transactions my self. Does any one have an answer for this?

> Doesn't Money ask if it should adjust positions? Just click the
> radio button to not have Money adjust positions.
> Perhaps you are using background banking. You can download Fidelity
> transactions without background banking being enabled.

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Old 09-03-2006, 08:51 PM
Michael Gordon, MVP
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Default Re: Positions adjusted to match balance at institution - A big Problem

If money sees a discrepancy, it asks wheter you want to adjust the balances.
If you say yes, then the memo field says something such as "balance adjusted
.......". Just decline theoffer.

--
Michael Gordon
MVP


"Brandt" <Brandt[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AC86ABEE-4F16-4C8B-9D58-15F3833BD2CE[at]microsoft.com...
- quote -

> Recently I noticed that the ballance of my investment account in money
> (2007)
> did not match fidelity's ballance and I started researching. I quickly
> noticed (sometimes) when a divided was issued and shares repurchased with
> that divided money would just update the shares to reflect the amount of
> shares in the account. I had to go through 2 years of statements to
> correct
> this problem. I found this: When you purchase shares through fidelity,
> fidelity updates your account with the correct number of shares however
> the
> cash transaction made to purchase those shares does not clear until the
> following day. When money checks the account and a transaction like this
> in
> limbo it will (wrongly) update the amount of shares you have as if the
> shares
> came out of thin air and does nothing to notify you. It enters a
> transaction
> with a quantity, no price and a memo (Positions adjusted to match balance
> at
> institution.) to let you know it did something wrong. Further when the
> cash
> transaction does show up at fidelity it doesn't record it! Now I know
> that
> investment accounts in money that have NOT been selected to record cash
> transactions work this way however this is not the case for my account.
> When
> recording cash transactions Money should not record any transactions just
> for
> the sake of matching share ballances. I am about to turn off automatic
> updates for this account because I have to go back and waste as much time
> reconciling as if I have just entered all the buy, sell, open, close, and
> dividend transactions my self. Does any one have an answer for this?



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Old 09-03-2006, 07:42 PM
Gordon
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Default Re: Positions adjusted to match balance at institution - A big Problem

On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 10:16:01 -0700, Brandt
<Brandt[at]discussions.microsoft.com> Eingereicht:

- quote -

> Recently I noticed that the ballance of my investment account in money (2007)
> did not match fidelity's ballance and I started researching. I quickly
> noticed (sometimes) when a divided was issued and shares repurchased with
> that divided money would just update the shares to reflect the amount of
> shares in the account. I had to go through 2 years of statements to correct
> this problem. I found this: When you purchase shares through fidelity,
> fidelity updates your account with the correct number of shares however the
> cash transaction made to purchase those shares does not clear until the
> following day. When money checks the account and a transaction like this in
> limbo it will (wrongly) update the amount of shares you have as if the shares
> came out of thin air and does nothing to notify you. It enters a transaction
> with a quantity, no price and a memo (Positions adjusted to match balance at
> institution.) to let you know it did something wrong. Further when the cash
> transaction does show up at fidelity it doesn't record it! Now I know that
> investment accounts in money that have NOT been selected to record cash
> transactions work this way however this is not the case for my account. When
> recording cash transactions Money should not record any transactions just for
> the sake of matching share ballances. I am about to turn off automatic
> updates for this account because I have to go back and waste as much time
> reconciling as if I have just entered all the buy, sell, open, close, and
> dividend transactions my self. Does any one have an answer for this?



This seems to be the exact same problem I am having. See above
post. If you figure out a solution to this problem, PLEASE do let
me know.

Gordon
 
Old 09-03-2006, 06:09 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: Positions adjusted to match balance at institution - A big Problem

In microsoft.public.money, Brandt wrote:

- quote -

> When
> recording cash transactions Money should not record any transactions just for
> the sake of matching share ballances. I am about to turn off automatic
> updates for this account because I have to go back and waste as much time
> reconciling as if I have just entered all the buy, sell, open, close, and
> dividend transactions my self. Does any one have an answer for this?


Doesn't Money ask if it should adjust positions? Just click the
radio button to not have Money adjust positions.

Perhaps you are using background banking. You can download Fidelity
transactions without background banking being enabled.

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Old 09-03-2006, 05:16 PM
Brandt
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Default Positions adjusted to match balance at institution - A big Problem

Recently I noticed that the ballance of my investment account in money (2007)
did not match fidelity's ballance and I started researching. I quickly
noticed (sometimes) when a divided was issued and shares repurchased with
that divided money would just update the shares to reflect the amount of
shares in the account. I had to go through 2 years of statements to correct
this problem. I found this: When you purchase shares through fidelity,
fidelity updates your account with the correct number of shares however the
cash transaction made to purchase those shares does not clear until the
following day. When money checks the account and a transaction like this in
limbo it will (wrongly) update the amount of shares you have as if the shares
came out of thin air and does nothing to notify you. It enters a transaction
with a quantity, no price and a memo (Positions adjusted to match balance at
institution.) to let you know it did something wrong. Further when the cash
transaction does show up at fidelity it doesn't record it! Now I know that
investment accounts in money that have NOT been selected to record cash
transactions work this way however this is not the case for my account. When
recording cash transactions Money should not record any transactions just for
the sake of matching share ballances. I am about to turn off automatic
updates for this account because I have to go back and waste as much time
reconciling as if I have just entered all the buy, sell, open, close, and
dividend transactions my self. Does any one have an answer for this?
 

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