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Old 08-26-2006, 01:49 AM
William L. Oppenheim, MD
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Default Re: Transfer of assets to a new account, along with their history--Is this possible in M06

Thanks Dick. I am not sure why, but I chose to export the data from the old
accounts utilizing the loose qif option since I knew the data was going to
be imported into the same money program, just into new accounts. These new
accounts had been established by the online brokerage updates, so I deleted
the 'add shares' transactions with which they had been itinialized, and
which made no sense to the rest of the money program in terms of reports, or
portfolio return calculations. This worked pretty well, and left my
original accounts untouched. I then did the export form the old, and import
to the new accounts. For the old accounts, I simply deselected them from
the portfolio view (using the customize menu) and then closed those accounts
so they no longer factor into anythng meaningful on my desktop, and I now
have the new accounts established with all of the appropriate data. If I
should need something from the old accounts, I can always re open them. I
will use the resultant money file for a few days to be sure that there have
been no aberrations. I said it mostly worked, because I did have to adjust
the original account balance to produce the current cash balances, a
relatively minor tweak. The issue came up because the brokerage was buying
and selling money market shares in addition to having cash balances, so
there was some timing issues for me. If I had waited a few days and laid
off asset buys or sells, ti might have worked out, but as I said, the
adjustment was a minor issue.


"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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> I haven't been through this exact scenario, but your first choice--just
> redefining the properties of existing Money accounts--seems likely to be a
> better choice. Store the old account names/number(s) and the dates you
> changed the name/etc. of the account in the account settings comments
> property. I have done this with multiple accounts, including one investment
> account, over time. I don't see a downside of consequence. If downloads are
> involved, you probably have to disable that, then redefine, then re-enable
> with the new numbers.
> "William L. Oppenheim, MD" <woppenhe[at]ucla.edu> wrote in message
> news:N96dnWvI27Zfo3LZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d[at]comcast.com...
> > Bank of America Investments has forced many of us into new accounts in
> > order to preserve our self directed investment status inherited from
> > Quick and Reilly. They are, 2 years latter, assigning us new account
> > numbers, if we do not wish full service accounts and the accompanying
> > higher commissions. In attempting to transfer my assets from the old
> > BAISI account into the new one, I noticed that the history of the
> > asset-e.g the purchase price--is not transferred. Instead the new
> > account has only the shares added (uploaded form the new account data
> > online) and the price and date assigned to the asset are as teh date of
> > transfer, not aquisition. In addition, there is no further info about
> > dividends, original purchase date, etc. When I go to sell something out
> > of the new account, I would manually have to go to the old account to
> > find this data, and the reports that I generate based on either account
> > are now inaccurate, as is the info displayed in portfolio manager. Is it
> > better just to change the old account number to the new account number.
> > I will get two separate 1099's from BAISI, but it still may be easier in
> > the long run to track assets and make investment decisions. Or perhaps
> > it is better to export data from the old account, and then import it into
> > the new account. Then close the old account, so the displays will not
> > show the same assets twice. If you have been thru this, please advise on
> > your eventual solution.



 
Old 08-25-2006, 06:32 PM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: Transfer of assets to a new account, along with their history--Is this possible in M06

I haven't been through this exact scenario, but your first choice--just
redefining the properties of existing Money accounts--seems likely to be a
better choice. Store the old account names/number(s) and the dates you
changed the name/etc. of the account in the account settings comments
property. I have done this with multiple accounts, including one investment
account, over time. I don't see a downside of consequence. If downloads are
involved, you probably have to disable that, then redefine, then re-enable
with the new numbers.

"William L. Oppenheim, MD" <woppenhe[at]ucla.edu> wrote in message
news:N96dnWvI27Zfo3LZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d[at]comcast.com...
- quote -

> Bank of America Investments has forced many of us into new accounts in
> order to preserve our self directed investment status inherited from Quick
> and Reilly. They are, 2 years latter, assigning us new account numbers,
> if we do not wish full service accounts and the accompanying higher
> commissions. In attempting to transfer my assets from the old BAISI
> account into the new one, I noticed that the history of the asset-e.g the
> purchase price--is not transferred. Instead the new account has only the
> shares added (uploaded form the new account data online) and the price and
> date assigned to the asset are as teh date of transfer, not aquisition.
> In addition, there is no further info about dividends, original purchase
> date, etc. When I go to sell something out of the new account, I would
> manually have to go to the old account to find this data, and the reports
> that I generate based on either account are now inaccurate, as is the info
> displayed in portfolio manager. Is it better just to change the old
> account number to the new account number. I will get two separate 1099's
> from BAISI, but it still may be easier in the long run to track assets and
> make investment decisions. Or perhaps it is better to export data from
> the old account, and then import it into the new account. Then close the
> old account, so the displays will not show the same assets twice. If you
> have been thru this, please advise on your eventual solution.



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Old 08-25-2006, 06:15 PM
William L. Oppenheim, MD
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Default Transfer of assets to a new account, along with their history--Is this possible in M06

Bank of America Investments has forced many of us into new accounts in order
to preserve our self directed investment status inherited from Quick and
Reilly. They are, 2 years latter, assigning us new account numbers, if we
do not wish full service accounts and the accompanying higher commissions.
In attempting to transfer my assets from the old BAISI account into the new
one, I noticed that the history of the asset-e.g the purchase price--is not
transferred. Instead the new account has only the shares added (uploaded
form the new account data online) and the price and date assigned to the
asset are as teh date of transfer, not aquisition. In addition, there is no
further info about dividends, original purchase date, etc. When I go to
sell something out of the new account, I would manually have to go to the
old account to find this data, and the reports that I generate based on
either account are now inaccurate, as is the info displayed in portfolio
manager. Is it better just to change the old account number to the new
account number. I will get two separate 1099's from BAISI, but it still may
be easier in the long run to track assets and make investment decisions. Or
perhaps it is better to export data from the old account, and then import it
into the new account. Then close the old account, so the displays will not
show the same assets twice. If you have been thru this, please advise on
your eventual solution.


 

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