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Old 10-11-2006, 03:53 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: How can I move an investment to a different account?

In microsoft.public.money, kjd wrote:

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> That is what I was afraid of.

I don't know what you think I said, but it appears to be different
than what I said.

What conclusion did you draw that invokes your fear?


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> I don't have to update past 2005 for another
> year, I think, so I am going to write a new message suggesting an improvement
> in Money.
> Thank you,
> kjd
> "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:
> > In microsoft.public.money, kjd wrote:
> > > > > > Does anyone know of an easier method?
> > > There has to be a simple way to move the entire
> > > investment from one account to another. Any thoughts?
> > > > This is how I tested it out in Money 2007:
> > > 1. I created a new investment account. In order to not have Money

> > insist on a LiveID/Passport, I indicated that the financial
> > institution was not listed.
> > > 2. In the existing account, I checked how many shares of FundX were

> > held by clicking AccountSummary in the account register. In the
> > InvestmentTransactions, I entered a TransferOut transaction for that
> > many shares of FundX and specified the new account as the transfer
> > account.
> > > 3. I noted that the Capital Gains Manager incorrectly listed the

> > transfer date as the basis date for each of the lots.. Ignore that
> > anomaly.
> > > 4. With the accounts and FundX NOT set up for FIFO, or Average

> > basis, I did a Sell of part of the shares. The list of lots had the
> > CORRECT original Buy dates and prices. Good. I assume that had I
> > specified one of the average basis or FIFO methods, then that would
> > have worked too.
> > > > 5. I exported the tax data to a .txf file. The correct basis date

> > and price was listed. Good.
> >
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Old 10-11-2006, 03:24 PM
kjd
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Default Re: How can I move an investment to a different account?

That is what I was afraid of. I don't have to update past 2005 for another
year, I think, so I am going to write a new message suggesting an improvement
in Money.

Thank you,
kjd

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, kjd wrote:
> > > Does anyone know of an easier method?

> There has to be a simple way to move the entire
> > investment from one account to another. Any thoughts?

> This is how I tested it out in Money 2007:
> 1. I created a new investment account. In order to not have Money
> insist on a LiveID/Passport, I indicated that the financial
> institution was not listed.
> 2. In the existing account, I checked how many shares of FundX were
> held by clicking AccountSummary in the account register. In the
> InvestmentTransactions, I entered a TransferOut transaction for that
> many shares of FundX and specified the new account as the transfer
> account.
> 3. I noted that the Capital Gains Manager incorrectly listed the
> transfer date as the basis date for each of the lots.. Ignore that
> anomaly.
> 4. With the accounts and FundX NOT set up for FIFO, or Average
> basis, I did a Sell of part of the shares. The list of lots had the
> CORRECT original Buy dates and prices. Good. I assume that had I
> specified one of the average basis or FIFO methods, then that would
> have worked too.
> 5. I exported the tax data to a .txf file. The correct basis date
> and price was listed. Good.

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Old 10-11-2006, 02:29 AM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: How can I move an investment to a different account?

In microsoft.public.money, kjd wrote:

- quote -

> Does anyone know of an easier method?

There has to be a simple way to move the entire
- quote -

> investment from one account to another. Any thoughts?


This is how I tested it out in Money 2007:

1. I created a new investment account. In order to not have Money
insist on a LiveID/Passport, I indicated that the financial
institution was not listed.

2. In the existing account, I checked how many shares of FundX were
held by clicking AccountSummary in the account register. In the
InvestmentTransactions, I entered a TransferOut transaction for that
many shares of FundX and specified the new account as the transfer
account.

3. I noted that the Capital Gains Manager incorrectly listed the
transfer date as the basis date for each of the lots.. Ignore that
anomaly.

4. With the accounts and FundX NOT set up for FIFO, or Average
basis, I did a Sell of part of the shares. The list of lots had the
CORRECT original Buy dates and prices. Good. I assume that had I
specified one of the average basis or FIFO methods, then that would
have worked too.


5. I exported the tax data to a .txf file. The correct basis date
and price was listed. Good.

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Old 10-11-2006, 02:28 AM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: How can I move an investment to a different account?

In microsoft.public.money, efm5 wrote:

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> I have a few accounts in my portfolio; each has a number of investments (no
> investment appears in more than one account). I want to move an investment
> (all the buys, sells, dividends etc. for a stock or fund) from one account to
> another. In 2004 I was able to do this by opening the account online and
> simply dragging the investment from one account to the other. Now, the only
> way I find to accomplish the task is to laboriously edit each transaction
> within the investment. There has to be a simple way to move the entire
> investment from one account to another. Any thoughts?



This is how I tested it out in Money 2007:

1. I created a new investment account. In order to not have Money
insist on a LiveID/Passport, I indicated that the financial
institution was not listed.

2. In the existing account, I checked how many shares of FundX were
held by clicking AccountSummary in the account register. In the
InvestmentTransactions, I entered a TransferOut transaction for that
many shares of FundX and specified the new account as the transfer
account.

3. I noted that the Capital Gains Manager incorrectly listed the
transfer date as the basis date for each of the lots.. Ignore that
anomaly.

4. With the accounts and FundX NOT set up for FIFO, or Average
basis, I did a Sell of part of the shares. The list of lots had the
CORRECT original Buy dates and prices. Good. I assume that had I
specified one of the average basis or FIFO methods, then that would
have worked too.


5. I exported the tax data to a .txf file. The correct basis date
and price was listed. Good.

You should be able to find prior discussions of this topic. Search
for "transfer out" in the old postings.




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Old 10-11-2006, 12:31 AM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: How can I move an investment to a different account?

There is not an easy way to move the **entire transaction history for one
investment from one investment account to another.** If your really want to
do this, the most straightforward, least involved and risky way is one
transaction at a time.

There are probably others involving exotic things like exporting the whole
account to QIF and then editing one or several copies and doing one or
several imports and then deleting entire accounts and/or deleting investment
transactions, again, one-by-one.

Personally, I'd say that "a mutual company ... offering Money
inter-operability, but separating their account [into] separate accounts for
each investment" isn't offering Money interoperability, just some band-aid
on cancer.

"kjd" <kjd[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8602DA54-43F0-4BA4-B262-61180E863122[at]microsoft.com...
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> [y]ou are saying efm5 is correct? There is no easy method of
> moving an investment from one account to another? (When there are a great
> number of transactions, moving each individual transaction is NOT an easy
> method.) I have the same problem he has. A mutual company is now
> offering
> Money inter-operability, but separate their account separate accounts for
> each investment. I'd like to use the capability, but not at the expense
> of
> laborously moving transactions from the last 30 years!
> Does anyone know of an easier method?



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Old 10-10-2006, 10:34 PM
kjd
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Default Re: How can I move an investment to a different account?

Mr. Watson, you are saying efm5 is correct? There is no easy method of
moving an investment from one account to another? (When there are a great
number of transactions, moving each individual transaction is NOT an easy
method.) I have the same problem he has. A mutual company is now offering
Money inter-operability, but separate their account separate accounts for
each investment. I'd like to use the capability, but not at the expense of
laborously moving transactions from the last 30 years!

Does anyone know of an easier method?

Thank you.

"Dick Watson" wrote:

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> You want there to be a simple way for something but there isn't?
> Moving it will be complicated by the prospect of "negative shares at some
> point" state/messages. Add a HUGE Buy in the investment in the account you
> are moving out of at a date BEFORE the date all other transactions for the
> investment. Move each transaction for the investment starting with the first
> real one. When all are moved, delete the bogus huge Buy.
> "efm5" <efm5[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:66840A76-C262-471F-BA87-269C227680CA[at]microsoft.com...
> > another. In 2004 I was able to do this by opening the account online and
> > simply dragging the investment from one account to the other. Now, the

> only
> > way I find to accomplish the task is to laboriously edit each transaction
> > within the investment. There has to be a simple way to move the entire
> > investment from one account to another. Any thoughts?

 
Old 08-09-2006, 10:14 PM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: How can I move an investment to a different account?

You want there to be a simple way for something but there isn't?

Moving it will be complicated by the prospect of "negative shares at some
point" state/messages. Add a HUGE Buy in the investment in the account you
are moving out of at a date BEFORE the date all other transactions for the
investment. Move each transaction for the investment starting with the first
real one. When all are moved, delete the bogus huge Buy.

"efm5" <efm5[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:66840A76-C262-471F-BA87-269C227680CA[at]microsoft.com...
- quote -

> I have a few accounts in my portfolio; each has a number of investments
(no
> investment appears in more than one account). I want to move an investment
> (all the buys, sells, dividends etc. for a stock or fund) from one account

to
> another. In 2004 I was able to do this by opening the account online and
> simply dragging the investment from one account to the other. Now, the

only
> way I find to accomplish the task is to laboriously edit each transaction
> within the investment. There has to be a simple way to move the entire
> investment from one account to another. Any thoughts?



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Old 08-09-2006, 06:59 PM
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Default How can I move an investment to a different account?

I have a few accounts in my portfolio; each has a number of investments (no
investment appears in more than one account). I want to move an investment
(all the buys, sells, dividends etc. for a stock or fund) from one account to
another. In 2004 I was able to do this by opening the account online and
simply dragging the investment from one account to the other. Now, the only
way I find to accomplish the task is to laboriously edit each transaction
within the investment. There has to be a simple way to move the entire
investment from one account to another. Any thoughts?
 

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