If you setup to download *any* third party downloaded transaction data, then
you imply Passport and Sync With The Web. It is possible to setup just a
Passport-as-password.

"Art McClinton" <art[at]nova.org> wrote in message
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Likewise I am not trying to criticize.

Dick Watson wrote:
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to download
a few financial institutions. I found that all of my Money data was
stored on MS server and accessible from the web. This was not only my
local money.

I password the access to my local money file by storing it in an
encrypted directory on my system. If it is possible to use passport to
only provide the password to my local money file, I did not know this.

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You are correct, it is possible that they are using SSL. However, while
reading the Money 2006 EULA, the Money 2007 specifications and tne
leagalize that you have to agree to to get a passport; I did not find
any indication that they do use it. I did find some obvious errors that
if true would prove they do not use it. I did go back and find that
even though I thought I had wiped all my information from Money Central,
the names of my financial institutions still exist.

Lets just say it is a feature that I do not see a need for in my view of
how I would like to process and protect my finances.

All right...that is what I suspected. I'm pretty sure I have Money
configured to simply use passport id as 'local password' to access my file.

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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Really Dick, advertising the little blue pills! ;-)

"you won't be able to have enhanced male performance "

--
Regards
Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

For UK tips & fixes see
http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny.


I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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Comments--aimed at accuracy not criticism--inline.

"Art McClinton" <art[at]nova.org> wrote in message
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Not necessarily. Depends on how you use Money+Passport. You can JUST use
Passport as an authentication scheme for access to the local data. Granted,
M05+ tries to come up with all manner of ways to get you to do this while
obscuring what they are really doing in plain sight for those who read very
fine print. ("File Sharing" comes to mind. *Direct Connect is good (but
third party donwnloads...)" comes to mind. All of the panels at the startup
telling you that you won't be able to have enhanced male performance if you
don't use a Passport with your Money file--are you sure this is what you
want? Really? come to mind.)

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Not true. See above.

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I don't believe that what they store is in any way a "backup"; sure, they
push a select subset. I have not messed with it enough to know, but I can't
imagine they push all of the information from my 56MB file onto their
servers. Closed accounts? Transactions from 1993? All my payees? I also
don't think you can do anything so simple as "File|Restore" to recover via
the Sync With the Web data if you trash your local file. Anybody can correct
me if I'm wrong.

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Do you know either of those to be true? I can't say one way or another, but
suspect SSL is used for transmission. I'm less sure they encrypt data on
their servers, but wouldn't be terribly surprised either way. BTW, I was not
trying to suggest that people with fears about Passport and Money Sync With
the Web are irrational or only for people who hate Microsoft. Now, general
fear of Passport outside of the Money context may be a different matter...

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I will not store my financial information on anyone else's server.
Passport does this. When ever you enable passport all of your financial
information is loaded onto a microsoft server. This allows anyone with
your passport id and password the ability to see your financial
information with only the need to be running IE. It also potentially
provides your financial information to a host of administrative people
within microsoft that run the Money server where it is stored.

They however provide you with
1) the ability of using third party programs to scrape the FI website to
download from institutions that have not set up OFX servers.
2) the ability to access your data from multiple places. That is
multiple money programs and even a web interface that does not require
money.
3) a backup of the data on your machine incase you loose your copy of
the data.
4) a promise that it is secure to store your data on their server

I saw Dick's response and I am not a I hate MS person, or I do not trust
MS, I just do not trust storing my data elsewhere when it is sent
un-encrypted over the net and stored un-encrypted.

Your choice.

Terry Aney wrote:
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s.b. ...for use from other locations, for what M05 mislabeled "file
sharing", ...
"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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A lot of people just think it's generically Evil Microsoft Stuff because
they read somewhere that Passport was part of Microsoft's plan to Dominate
The World.

In particular, using it with Money tends to imply--but doesn't
infer--storing a subset of their Money data on an MSN web server for use
from other locations for what M05 mislabeled "file sharing", and to enable
the "third party" downloads. That gives a lot of people the willies about
data security and privacy, rightly or wrongly.

"Terry Aney" <terry.aney[at]charter.net> wrote in message
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Am I missing something? Why does everyone detest this so bad? Feel like
I'm on the outside of some 'important' information.