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Old 09-04-2006, 09:26 PM
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"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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> In microsoft.public.money, Brian wrote:
> > > I've been using MS Money since about Money 98. I upgraded until Money 2003,

> > and I've been using M-2003 for about four years. I recently downloaded Money
> > 2007, and noticed that now it seems that I HAVE to put my accounts up on the
> > MSN site. Money started the upload as soon as I opened my Money file. I
> > went in there and manually deleted my accounts, and removed the option. I
> > have no need to access my accounts from the Internet, and (maybe I'm an old
> > fuddy-duddy), I'm not sure if I want my financial life up there anyway.
> > > So then I was going to download statements from my bank. But when I went to

> > add the online service it said, "To get online updates from this bank or
> > brokerage, you must change Money's settings to use a Windows Live ID at
> > sign-in and activate the MSN Money My Accounts service."
> > > So, since I don't want to put my accounts on the MSN site, I have to make do

> > with a crippled version of Money 2007?

> If the bank worked with Money 2003, I would expect it to work with
> Money 2007 without WindowsLiveID/Passport. Care to name the bank?
> Would that be Wachovia?

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Old 07-26-2006, 01:51 PM
Dick Watson
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See also http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=171.


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Old 07-26-2006, 12:17 PM
Dick Watson
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I've never even supplied it a Passport. Without that, it has no way to put
any data up on MSN Money.

"Brian" <Brian[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I'm working with Deluxe.
> Have you logged onto MSN Money and checked your accounts?
> I didn't intentionally put anything up there either.



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Old 07-26-2006, 12:17 PM
Dick Watson
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So, you've added a new FI download in M07.

M05+ added a new wrinkle called third party downloads. These use Yodlee.com
or similar screen scrapers as an intermediary to get the data from your
bank's web site human-readable pages to some intermediate form that MSN
Money then puts in their database. To get if from their database to your
local file, they just repurposed Sync With The Web--which not enough of us
were using anyway.

It's the price you have to pay to get data from those institutions that
Yodlee knows how to scrape but that refuse to support a better
interface --direct connection via exposed OFX--for you and Money to get at
your data.

See also http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=175 and
http://www.microsoft.com/money/bankonline.aspx. Note that for WaMu it says:

==========================
Washington Mutual Bank
Main: https://online.wamu.com/IdentityManageme nt/Logon.aspx

Additional Information and Services

Statements

Direct Services* are the fastest, easiest way to connect with your financial
institution and have your statements automatically downloaded into Money.

* This service is provided by a third party provider, not your financial
instituition. It is only available if you have Microsoft Money 2005 or
later. You will need to use Microsoft .NET Passport in order to access your
account information.

Your financial institution may offer an alternative means of downloading
statements and transactions from their web site into Microsoft Money 2004
and earlier. Please contact them for more information.
==========================

(Note that Direct Connection is good, but "Direct Connection* *This service
is provided by a third party provider" is code for Yodlee, et al. Note also
that "You will need to use Microsoft .NET Passport in order to access your
account information" is code for 'and your data will get pushed onto MSN web
servers as part of the bargain.')

"Brian" <Brian[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> No, it's WaMu.
> I didn't have it setup to download my transactions in Money 2003.
> I think back when I installed it, WaMu wasn't geared up for it yet.
> And I never set it up in Money cause I just manually add my transactions
> throughout the month. I was seeing if WaMu had downloadable statements
> yet.
> I did have several investment accounts setup via Money 2003, and they
> transferred over to '07 just fine.



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Old 07-26-2006, 03:43 AM
Brian
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Hi Cal:

No, it's WaMu.

I didn't have it setup to download my transactions in Money 2003.
I think back when I installed it, WaMu wasn't geared up for it yet.
And I never set it up in Money cause I just manually add my transactions
throughout the month. I was seeing if WaMu had downloadable statements yet.

I did have several investment accounts setup via Money 2003, and they
transferred over to '07 just fine.

Thanks!

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, Brian wrote:
> > > I've been using MS Money since about Money 98. I upgraded until Money 2003,

> > and I've been using M-2003 for about four years. I recently downloaded Money
> > 2007, and noticed that now it seems that I HAVE to put my accounts up on the
> > MSN site. Money started the upload as soon as I opened my Money file. I
> > went in there and manually deleted my accounts, and removed the option. I
> > have no need to access my accounts from the Internet, and (maybe I'm an old
> > fuddy-duddy), I'm not sure if I want my financial life up there anyway.
> > > So then I was going to download statements from my bank. But when I went to

> > add the online service it said, "To get online updates from this bank or
> > brokerage, you must change Money's settings to use a Windows Live ID at
> > sign-in and activate the MSN Money My Accounts service."
> > > So, since I don't want to put my accounts on the MSN site, I have to make do

> > with a crippled version of Money 2007?

> If the bank worked with Money 2003, I would expect it to work with
> Money 2007 without WindowsLiveID/Passport. Care to name the bank?
> Would that be Wachovia?

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Old 07-26-2006, 03:39 AM
Brian
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Hey Dick:

I'm working with Deluxe.
Have you logged onto MSN Money and checked your accounts?
I didn't intentionally put anything up there either.

"Dick Watson" wrote:

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> Essential or Deluxe? FIs you insist on downloading transaction data for?
> I'm testing M07 Deluxe and haven't put any data on the MSN web site.
> "Brian" <Brian[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:79B11E2F-DEB8-4F7D-BC26-B4B88374BFC7[at]microsoft.com...
> > I recently downloaded Money
> > 2007, and noticed that now it seems that I HAVE to put my accounts up on
> > the
> > MSN site. Money started the upload as soon as I opened my Money file.

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Old 07-26-2006, 03:14 AM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, Brian wrote:

- quote -

> I've been using MS Money since about Money 98. I upgraded until Money 2003,
> and I've been using M-2003 for about four years. I recently downloaded Money
> 2007, and noticed that now it seems that I HAVE to put my accounts up on the
> MSN site. Money started the upload as soon as I opened my Money file. I
> went in there and manually deleted my accounts, and removed the option. I
> have no need to access my accounts from the Internet, and (maybe I'm an old
> fuddy-duddy), I'm not sure if I want my financial life up there anyway.
> So then I was going to download statements from my bank. But when I went to
> add the online service it said, "To get online updates from this bank or
> brokerage, you must change Money's settings to use a Windows Live ID at
> sign-in and activate the MSN Money My Accounts service."
> So, since I don't want to put my accounts on the MSN site, I have to make do
> with a crippled version of Money 2007?


If the bank worked with Money 2003, I would expect it to work with
Money 2007 without WindowsLiveID/Passport. Care to name the bank?
Would that be Wachovia?
 
Old 07-26-2006, 03:12 AM
Dick Watson
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Essential or Deluxe? FIs you insist on downloading transaction data for?

I'm testing M07 Deluxe and haven't put any data on the MSN web site.

"Brian" <Brian[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:79B11E2F-DEB8-4F7D-BC26-B4B88374BFC7[at]microsoft.com...
- quote -

> I recently downloaded Money
> 2007, and noticed that now it seems that I HAVE to put my accounts up on
> the
> MSN site. Money started the upload as soon as I opened my Money file.



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Old 07-26-2006, 02:21 AM
Brian
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Hi you guys:

I've been using MS Money since about Money 98. I upgraded until Money 2003,
and I've been using M-2003 for about four years. I recently downloaded Money
2007, and noticed that now it seems that I HAVE to put my accounts up on the
MSN site. Money started the upload as soon as I opened my Money file. I
went in there and manually deleted my accounts, and removed the option. I
have no need to access my accounts from the Internet, and (maybe I'm an old
fuddy-duddy), I'm not sure if I want my financial life up there anyway.

So then I was going to download statements from my bank. But when I went to
add the online service it said, "To get online updates from this bank or
brokerage, you must change Money's settings to use a Windows Live ID at
sign-in and activate the MSN Money My Accounts service."

So, since I don't want to put my accounts on the MSN site, I have to make do
with a crippled version of Money 2007?

2003 was a very good year....
 

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