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| In microsoft.public.money, rvsw[at]hotmail.com wrote: - quote - > Thanks for the response.
You can delete/void those and replace them with Dividend> a) This is what I did. Went to the portfolio screen. Clicked the [+]. > There is only a buy transaction. However, the cash account contains > dividend transactions. transactions entered into the investment transactions. - quote - > b) What is the meaning of the term amount spent in your post below? Is
I was referring to the money you spent to acquire the investment. It> it the money taken out from the account may include other expense, but it usually just the Buys. - quote - > c) %gain and ROI all dates show the same values for each investment.
%gain is weird, and can be lower than -100%. %gain is "gain divided> However, the grand total row shows % gain and ROI all dates as > different. (ROI is greater than %gain). This may be because ROI all > dates possibly includes cash accounts (ie. any interest credited on the > cash account) but % gain. However, I cannot confirm by cost basis" as a percentage. As a test, enter a Sell all but 1% of your shares for 10% more than you paid, and you will get an obviously meaningless number. I suggest you configure that column out. - quote - > I am puzzled why microsoft money does not include description of how > each parameter is calculated. > Cal Learner-- MVP wrote: > > In microsoft.public.money, rvsw[at]hotmail.com wrote: > > > > From http://money.mvps.org/articles/portfolio_columns.aspx, it says > > > that dividends should be included in calculation of ROI all dates(Total > > > return all dates) > > > Total Return - All Dates includes dividends. Check the transactions > > by clicking the [+] to see if there are dividends listed there. > > Experiment by adding a really big fake dividend. Then delete the > > fake. > > > > > > So the formula for ROI should be ((market price - purchase price)+ > > > dividend) / purchase price. > > > Is this correct? > > > TR All Dates seems to be something like > > ((currentValue+amountReceived) / > > (amountSpent-amountReceived))-1 as a percentage. So if you are > > where you started, it would read 0%. If you lost all of your > > money, it would be -100% > > > > However, what I am seeing is that ROI all dates is calculated as > > > (market price - purchase price)/purchase price. > > > > > Is there any other parameter that includes dividends also > > > Gain could be a useful one, and %gain would be of doubtful > > usefulness. |
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| Thanks for the response. a) This is what I did. Went to the portfolio screen. Clicked the [+]. There is only a buy transaction. However, the cash account contains dividend transactions. b) What is the meaning of the term amount spent in your post below? Is it the money taken out from the account c) %gain and ROI all dates show the same values for each investment. However, the grand total row shows % gain and ROI all dates as different. (ROI is greater than %gain). This may be because ROI all dates possibly includes cash accounts (ie. any interest credited on the cash account) but % gain. However, I cannot confirm I am puzzled why microsoft money does not include description of how each parameter is calculated. Cal Learner-- MVP wrote: - quote - > In microsoft.public.money, rvsw[at]hotmail.com wrote: > > From http://money.mvps.org/articles/portfolio_columns.aspx, it says > > that dividends should be included in calculation of ROI all dates(Total > > return all dates) > Total Return - All Dates includes dividends. Check the transactions > by clicking the [+] to see if there are dividends listed there. > Experiment by adding a really big fake dividend. Then delete the > fake. > > So the formula for ROI should be ((market price - purchase price)+ > > dividend) / purchase price. > > Is this correct? > TR All Dates seems to be something like > ((currentValue+amountReceived) / > (amountSpent-amountReceived))-1 as a percentage. So if you are > where you started, it would read 0%. If you lost all of your > money, it would be -100% > > However, what I am seeing is that ROI all dates is calculated as > > (market price - purchase price)/purchase price. > > > Is there any other parameter that includes dividends also > Gain could be a useful one, and %gain would be of doubtful > usefulness. |
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| In microsoft.public.money, rvsw[at]hotmail.com wrote: - quote - > From http://money.mvps.org/articles/portfolio_columns.aspx, it says
Total Return - All Dates includes dividends. Check the transactions> that dividends should be included in calculation of ROI all dates(Total > return all dates) by clicking the [+] to see if there are dividends listed there. Experiment by adding a really big fake dividend. Then delete the fake. - quote - > So the formula for ROI should be ((market price - purchase price)+
TR All Dates seems to be something like> dividend) / purchase price. > Is this correct? ((currentValue+amountReceived) / (amountSpent-amountReceived))-1 as a percentage. So if you are where you started, it would read 0%. If you lost all of your money, it would be -100% - quote - > However, what I am seeing is that ROI all dates is calculated as
Gain could be a useful one, and %gain would be of doubtful> (market price - purchase price)/purchase price. > Is there any other parameter that includes dividends also usefulness. |
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| From http://money.mvps.org/articles/portfolio_columns.aspx, it says that dividends should be included in calculation of ROI all dates(Total return all dates) So the formula for ROI should be ((market price - purchase price)+ dividend) / purchase price. Is this correct? However, what I am seeing is that ROI all dates is calculated as (market price - purchase price)/purchase price. Is there any other parameter that includes dividends also |
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