On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 09:00:16 -0700, "Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote:

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Noted. Thanks

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I use neither. I use CheckFree. But we'll see.
--ron

Note that my comments about Apays and Epays were not with respect to whether
or not that functionality would go away when "online services" expired for
you.
It was simply to indicate that they were distinct from Background Banking.

Bill Payment services would likely also go away when online services expire,
but that may actually depend upon how you get the service (i.e. directly via
your bank's bill pay service versus MSN Bill Pay)

-Mark

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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:41:37 +0100, "Glyn Simpson, MVP" <glyn[at]serf.org> wrote:

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Well, should find out for sure in another week or so.
--ron

I'd go with Mark's comments on Apays and Epays. I'm not in the US, so don't
have this functionality and could easily have misintepreted what that
functionality is.

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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 08:39:02 -0700, "Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote:

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This is interesting. So far there have been three different postings giving
different ideas on what constitutes "background banking". At this time, I
guess I'll wait and see what gets disabled the end of the month. It seems
everyone agrees that downloading of stock quotes will be disabled. I'm not
sure if other features I use will or won't function after the cutoff date.


--ron

Background banking provides "statement" download.

Apays and Epays are from bill payment services, which may be either provided
by MSN Bill Pay, Checkfree or your bank's bill pay service that is designed
to integrated with Money. Background banking does not cover Bill Pay
services.

-Mark

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On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 08:40:16 +0100, "Glyn Simpson, MVP" <glyn[at]serf.org> wrote:

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Apays, Epays have been there for at least ten years. I always thought
background banking was the facility to download bank information while working
in other areas of Money, as opposed to having to explicitly request to download
bank data. I think this latter came along around 2000. I've never used it.

If Apays and Epays are part of the loss of functionality, I'll definitely
switch to MoneyDance even if I have to start anew.


--ron

Background banking is the functionality I'm thinking. The facilities for
Apays, Epays etc. I can't exactly remember the version they came into Money,
maybe Money 2000

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Yes, that's what I was referring to.

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On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 14:11:25 -0400, Art McClinton <art[at]nova.org> wrote:

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Internet Updates / Update Now

Selecting that causes Money to go to the Internet and download data from many
providers, as well as obtain stock quote updates and Money updates. Is that
not what Glyn is referring to with regard to "automatic updates"?


--ron

On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 18:44:50 +0100, "Glyn Simpson, MVP" <glyn[at]serf.org> wrote:

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Thanks for that information. That's probably the case for some of my accounts,
but for others I have to go to the bank itself.

I'm really frosted that current releases only have a two year life. I am going
to look closely again at MoneyDance, although importing the data will be a
PITA.

I would be inclined to upgrade to M2007, except the history of releases has not
given me any hope that the MS Money team will improve the functionality and fix
the bugs of previous versions in any meaningful way. My Money 2003 internet
functionality ends in a few weeks. Hopefully, I can hold out and see if M2007
is any better than M2003 in the ways in which I would like to see improvements.
--ron

Money 2003 did not have any automatic bank downloads. One had to
manually go to bank website and manually download the OFX or QIF files
and import them into Money.

Glyn Simpson, MVP wrote:

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Where Money goes to the bank itself and downloads the statement/transactions
for you, rather than you going to the bank's website and downloading them
yourself.

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On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 11:12:08 +0100, "Glyn Simpson, MVP" <glyn[at]serf.org> wrote:

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What do you mean by "automatic" ?


--ron

If I recall correctly, it would include bank downloads, especially if they
are automatic.

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If I understand correctly, sometime in the next month or two I will lose the
ability to update stock quotes in MS Money 2003.

Will I still be able to download from my banks and brokerages and CheckFree?
As far as I know, these connect directly and not via the MSN website.

Is there any way, other than manually entering each price, to get quote data
into MS Money once the automatic download facility expires?

Thanks.

It does not seem to me as if the later versions of Money have any features that
I would use or have fixed the bugs and annoyances that have appeared over the
past years, so I am reluctant to upgrade just for obtaining stock quotes.
--ron